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WIP Dragon Ball Legends by Veema - Rated T - Dragon Ball Z

Discussion in 'Trash Bin' started by Hidden94, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. Hidden94

    Hidden94 Squib

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    Title: Dragon Ball Legends
    Author: Veema
    Rating: T
    Genre: Drama/Adventure
    Status: WIP
    Fandom: Dragon Ball Z/GT
    Pairings: Bardock/OC, Raditz/OC, King Vegeta/OC, Kakarot (Goku)/Chi-Chi, Kakarot (Goku)/OC, Vegeta/Bulma, Vegeta/OC, Bulma/Tien, and Bulma/Yamcha.
    Summary: What if EVERYTHING that happened in DB/Z/GT was a vision of Bardock's? The psychic Saiyan struggles to honor Goku's memory, serve his king, raise Kakarot, and keep Earth from being purged by his own people after evacuating Planet Vegeta. It's not easy!
    Link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7762462/1/Dragonball-Legends

    I've been following this fanfiction for a long time. The character devolopment is great, it has a fast update rate, and it is more than half way done. I consider it the best DBZ fanfiction of all time! I rate a 5/5.
     
  2. Jarik

    Jarik Chief Warlock

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    Struggled to even finish the first chapter. Does this improve? Because the writing quality leaves a *lot* to be desired. The interactions, characterizations and whatnot from the first chapter just seem terrible.

    It feels like one of those guilty pleasures you read to see everything go 'right'. I can enjoy those from times to time (and some of those are pretty terrible), but nothing is hooking me into reading this at all.

    Doesn't seem like library material at all.

    If you want a good DBZ fic, go check out Point of No Return.
     
  3. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    I tried reading this a couple months back. Got a decent way into it, but just had to stop.

    The biggest thing was how Bardock kept Vegeta alive. His reasoning was that the rest of the Saiyans wouldn't follow Bardock and would want revenge or something -- but that obviously can't be true. The entire reason Vegeta is king is because he was the strongest Saiyan at the end of the Truffle/Saiyan war. If Bardock turned into a motherfucking Super Saiyan and fucked him up, I'm willing to bet the rest of the Saiyans would bow knee to him.

    But no, time and time again Bardock lets Vegeta go. Eventually Vegeta finally becomes a Super Saiyan and an actual threat to Bardock. He cuts off his grandchildren's tails, he messes up both Raditz and Kakkarot, and still Bardock doesn't kill him. How many fights did those two get into just for Bardock to pussy out at the very end?

    And then there's Bulma. God, she's a fucking cunt. Author seems to have gone the route of the retarded manga artists and come up with the most retarded reason for her hating her family and wanting to be part of the Saiyan race.

    She hated her father because he had plans to get rid of the bloodthirsty, murderous Saiyan race that had invaded Earth. She hated him because he would have become a murderer of children. That's why she joins the Saiyans. Except, what are these Saiyans except a race of bloodthirsty sociopaths? They not only killed children, they've exterminated entire species and had fun while doing so.

    Of course, then Bulma becomes a murderer and a sociopath when she grows up. She tortures Roshi and blackmails Baba. She manipulates everyone around her. When her father died, she didn't give a shit.

    Kakkarot is a huge failure. If Bardock wanted Goku, he shouldn't have raised Kakkarot like he did. He should have taken him to Gohan, then to Korrin, then to Roshi, then to Kami to train. As it is now, Kakkarot is no better than the average Saiyan. There's nothing special about him.

    I just couldn't stomach the choices the author made and his reasoning behind those choices. It's sad, too, I really did enjoy parts of the story, and this story is incredibly original for the DBZ fandom. 2/5 for me.
     
  4. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    I don't even think all that is necessary. All Bardock had to do is take advantage of the fact that his family were the only ones with access to senzu beans. He should have had them all doing dangerously extreme training and then eating a bean for the zenkai boost. That's how Goku went from whatever he was after fighting Vegeta to 90,000 in the week or so it took to get to Namek. With that and the kaio ken technique his family should have been able to fight just about anybody with little effort.
     
  5. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    That is also something that should have been done. But what I meant was this: Goku was unique because of how levelheaded, pure, and how downright noble/stupid he was. He knew how to get more out of training than Vegeta, who I am presuming to be the pinnacle of the Saiyan race.

    By the time Androids 19 and 20 arrived, Vegeta was stronger than Goku (because of the whole heart virus thing). He remained stronger than Goku and eclipsed him once he came out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber the first time. Then Goku entered, spent less than a year in it (and at the same time brought Gohan up to his level and beyond) and emerged stronger than Vegeta. He then spent the next week in peace and didn't train at all, while Vegeta went into the room once more for another year. And yet, Goku was still stronger.

    The way Goku was raised and trained obviously made him into a greater warrior than Vegeta, which is why he was the first Super Saiyan. Bardock should have realized this, being a genius and everything, and done something about it.

    Bardock also let Vegeta have the gravity rooms without any fight about it. Even when he was stronger and could've forced them out of him, he backed down. Bardock always fucking backed down, he was a fucking pussy.

    Goku did get stronger because of the Zenkai, but it was also due to the strain the gravity chamber in the spaceship put on him. That is the main thing which got Goku to put even Vegeta to shame once he reached Namek.
     
  6. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    Eh, I'm pretty sure Vegeta was stronger than at the beginning of the android fights simply because his base was higher. Goku's base power level was 3 million when he fought Frieza. I got the impression that Vegeta's was a bit higher thus his super saiyan form was just over him. I see Goku becoming a super saiyan first as more because he had the kaio ken technique which allowed him to entertain Frieza longer and proper motivation in his friends dying not because he was a better warrior.

    As far as their skills as warriors and fighting instincts go I see them as pretty much equal. You're right in that Goku seems to get more out of training though and so ends up ahead with the transformations. He also comes across powerful techniques more often too.

    That was he beauty of the senzu bean training. He'd train in the gravity chamber till he was injured/exhausted then eat a senzu bean to get a zenkai boost and he's instantly ready for more training. He could go on nonstop.

    I found Bardock refusing the take advantage of the dragon balls another instance of him being a pussy. He could have wished for his own gravity chamber or at least his family's tails back. Sure with the GT nonsense that makes a bit of sense but the resulting dragons probably wouldn't be evil for selfish wishes. He and his family were pretty much all alone against the entire saiyan race and he was the only one worth mentioning.

    Anyway my point was that Bardock didn't really need to reproduce Goku's mindset to make his family powerful. He pretty much knows everything that he needs to know to make them incredibly strong yet doesn't seem to really seem to be doing what needs to be done. His plans were to make everyone in his family a super saiyan. None of them seem to be all that special.
    Another con against the story is that all the anime filler is in it. I find it completely annoying become DBZ filler was pretty stupid.
     
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