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General League of Legends v.2.0

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Dark Syaoran, Sep 10, 2012.

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  1. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Good thing there's a penalty for dodging, right?! Those naught dodge trolls are certainly getting their just desserts now.
     
  2. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    No, game length and your K/D/A have nothing to do with it. Are you in Division I? Because tier promotions are permanent, the system gets really harsh if your MMR isn't high enough to get promoted to the next tier. Just keep winning games and, your rating will eventually catch up to where it should be.
     
  3. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    I don't enjoy League nearly as much without Shezza's accent keeping me entertained.
     
  4. Mishie

    Mishie Fat Dog

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  5. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    I watched that game live. The caster's reaction to the picks might have been the most excited I've ever heard a person's voice be.
     
  6. BsuperB

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    Got put into Silver Division II, took 6 straight losses to fall into III and then from there my lp's have bounced around a fair bit, still seem to lose more than I earn in a win, but I guess that's because I suck and can't get a winning streak going so they don't start scaling up. Fingers crossed I'll get back into II sometime this week but my workload's kicking my ass so, we'll see.

    Edit; First game of the day as Noct jungle and my laptop locks up, 10 minutes later I get back and we're 4-11 down with 2 towers & drag disadvantage... Nearly came back considering I was level 1 to a team of level 10's, but, nope.. Team focusses the Tanky Olaf over the Kassadin & MF =<. 2 Losses = 45 LP's gone, what the balls Riot? My MMR must be tanking pretty hard if I'm losing those kind of numbers in 2 games, I don't know how many I lost in my first game becaue my client crashed again, wonder of technology that it is.

    Hmm, I dunno, dropping to Silver IV would probably just make me give up on League for a while, like dropping to 1150 which I know I'm better than, just some fucked up starts causing these losses because people can't get back into a game.

    Edit 2; Yeah, upon further games and thoughts this system must be broken or it seriously thinks I suck worse than I do to be losing this much LP per game, admittedly if this were elo I'd be around my average of 1270~ but, think I'm around 1220 or so by now with this whole MMR thing, lost my final 15 this game so, I imagine I'm close to a Demotion to Silver IV.
     
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  7. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    A good way to check your standing using the more familiar elo system is to use the Lolking website.

    I can't complain, personally. I'm slowly but surely climbing back to my top elo, around 1500. Almost made it back to Gold. Soon.
     
  8. BsuperB

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    Yeah, I got demoted to Silver IV, 4 straight losses in a row, fucking unbelievable. I get my lanes ahead, I ward well, I don't play stupidly and somehow, they fuck it up. Somehow, some way, they find a way to just fuck it up. Walking into a 4 man Galio ult is a perfect example of that.

    Now I'm basically on the precipice of Hell. Not that I believe in 'ELO Hell' or I guess what could now be deemed as 'Division Hell' but it's getting a tad stupid when you can't even carry your teammates to victory by putting them all ahead, it's just eurgh. I'm not mad, angry or anything, just, well, I guess frustrated with the simple lack of communication and the number of throws I've had to put up with since this new system came in. I make mistakes, but tower diving 1 vs 5? Really? At 50 minutes? Sigh...

    Still, gratz on grinding your way there, I really want just want my win of the day now in ranked and seems like I have to carry myself even higher now. Determined.
     
  9. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    One hard earned tip. Never play alone. Find someone who knows his shit in general or one particular role, and make sure both of you stick to what you do best.
     
  10. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    So, wow. We played against this EXACT team comp last night. Henry, Fen, Saber, Dullahan, and myself. Henry and Dullahan just pushed bot as leona graves. We lost mid and top because I was AP sion but Saber's nocturne Q+my shield were enough to clear the waves out and keep them from just destroying mid early. It was actually pretty pathetically easy to have the advantage after the first initial push and hectic scrambling at the beginning of the game.

    Wasn't particularly difficult to beat, imo.
     
  11. BsuperB

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    Mmkay, win of the day acquired, switched from Cho to Xin and just rolled face, then started throwing hard myself by not building Bulwark against Kass/Eve till 40 minutes... Such an idiot. Oh well, Darius & Twitch carrying, I can live with that.

    66 Points, think I'll stop there for the evening and see how my break tomorrow goes. Duoing would probably help but probably not till the summer as I'm focussing more on Uni now than LoL now that Feb's here, lots to do with little time.

    Keep thinking about bringing out Sej, but she's such a risky pick I feel as I don't really think she can fight back like Amumu early on. Always wanting to try Fiddle jungle too, but I never really know when I should bring him out; Maybe a mid that doesn't require blue? Another AP on the team? When they pick a passive jungler before I do? Eh.
     
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  12. thebrute7

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    I was in that one actually, since I was playing Leona. I was weirded the hell out by that team. That strategy might have worked if their Olaf was better at farming while pushing down the towers.
     
  13. Mishie

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    That's what made it so amazing, the fact that not only did they go such a crazy team comp, but they were able to perfectly bait out one of the few teams that it would work against.
     
  14. Churchey

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    You're right, it was you and not Henry, sorry bout that!

    And I think the key reason the strategy didn't work was that we had noct/sion/graves/leona/kayle. We had engage, cc, and wave clear. We also didn't have any characters that are nearly as dependent on their level 6 as Khazix.

    Khazix was essentially useless to their team because he took so long to get 6. Their only aoe wave clear pre 6 was Chogath. Their only CC pre 6 was Cho/Shen.

    Mishie has it right. It really was a case of a group of retards seeing a strategy without understanding an ounce of reasoning behind why it worked.
     
  15. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    I watched that game. It was pretty funny. Near the end, both teams just kept all-in'ing each other. It was enjoyable.
     
  16. Super Bunny

    Super Bunny Fourth Year

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  17. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    It's an easy strat to beat once you realise what they're doing, but by the time you see it coming it's too late to counter pick it. Sounds like you got lucky and already had the champions to counter it.
     
  18. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    While "counter" picking the team seems like it's important, I think the level of teamwork was what allowed the strategy to work the most. (Knowing when to keep hitting, when to keep pushing, etc). Becauce the biggest problem with comps like that is once you lose your early momentum in pushing, you start to fall behind until you can't catch up anymore (due to difference in levels, champions).
     
  19. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    I just realised that I lose 10 LP every time I dodge. Now I need to reach 100 points again. Thanks RIOT, I'm sure the trolls appreciate it.

    Edit: I suppose I should start taking my own advice. I played 2 games alone. First game, Draven bot, dominate lane with a Leona against Cait/Taric. Outfarmed them, got loads of kills off of them, and got the tower at our leisure.
    Rest of the lanes went to shit, and so we lost. As fed as I was, 3 enemies were. Eventually, Cait realised what was going on and went and got fed off of my teammates, who sucked.

    Second game, see enemy Katarina after I have called mid, I say I'll go Cho. Some idiot takes my Cho to lane top against a Yorick. I take Diana and proceed to destroy Katarina, killing her a couple of times, outfarming her by a crazy amount and warding so her ganks fail.
    Cho proceeds to feed Yorick, and later do absolytely nothing during engagements. Our Taric seemed to be a firm believer in 'facecheck ALL the things!" and kept feeding after stumbling across the entire enemy team a bunch of times. The only place he would ward, ever, was the baron pit.
    Then there were the various free dragons my team left the enemy get, even after repeated pings and calls to come contest it.

    It's good to refresh my memory on why exactly solo q is a terrible idea. Because no matter how good I myself play, there are always 4 more member in the team.
     
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  20. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    My advice if you believe you are above the skill level you are currently in, is to use champions that can carry teamfights single handedly. This means using AP mids with heavy AOE damage, rather than assasins. Using safer ADC, such as Caitlyn or Ezreal, rather than relying on support to have bush control. Use dominating top lane champs, that scales well into mid-game (less reliance on jungler). Jungle, imo, is the best place to "carry" a team, since a strong jungler probably has the greatest presence. So use the especially faceroll ones (Shaco, Lee sin, Xin Zhao, etc).

    Playing Diana (tanky-assasin) and Draven (vulnerable in teamfights) is not the way to carry in solo q, even when fed.
     
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