Surprise Party Fiddle is my favourite skin, not sure why I don't own it... Probably because I very rarely play Fiddle, damned limitations in Mid and my overpowering fear of Fiddle jungle being shat on... Cheers for the link though Eld, something to kill time between the LCS matches later on.

Edit; Wow, Gambit Gaming picking a Volibear jungle vs Fnatic.

 

So I've joined LoL at last. I've already got a decent idea of what I want to play, but I could do with some newbie tips and the likes so that I know what not to do and such.

Firstly I like playing ranged. I'm no good at wading into melee since I can never keep track of where I am in the confusion. I'm also an ability spammer, it's not enough for me to just attack attack attack, I like the art of picking the right time and place to use huge damage dealing abilities. Alternately I'm good with tankier characters, so that I'm not constantly dying to stupid mistakes. Not so good with support though. I like killing things.

Mishie set me up with Ryze in a game earlier and I enjoyed that well enough. He's got a big mana pool if you set it up right and Arcane Mastery lowers cooldown enough to spam QWE (or WQE as I've started, since they tend to run away if I go Q first). I'm currently using this build and this one. Are they decent or can they be improved upon?

I've been thinking of adjusting a bit to promote movement speed, since my major problem is that I can't get my damage dealing spells off before the enemy moves out of range, which makes it way too easy to get drawn into a trap. My R move improves speed, but it also has a long cooldown, and comes at the cost of decreased spell damage.

Thoughts?

 

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Personally, I'm a fan of tanky AP. My main mid and first ever champion was Swain. The beauty of playing a tanky AP is their versatility. Overall, the builds you're using aren't bad. The first one is better in my opinion, although I do like Abyssal Scepter myself.

The build I use on Ryze has been slightly similar: Sorc Boots, WOTA, Frozen Heart, ROA, Seraph's Embrace, and either Rylai's for more chasing power, since you mentioned that people would get away from you, or Abyssal if you're against a bursty AP like LeBlanc, Akali, Orianna, etc. I also recommend the Furor enchantment on your boots as well.

The new items in Season 3 have made tanky AP so versatile in how they can build to counter the enemy team comp. and I love it.

 

Definitely use this one and not the other one. I'm no expert at ryze but it looks decent enough.

The whole point of Ryze is his spammability. His passive reduces the cooldowns on his spells when you cast another spell by 1 second. So you cast Q and W/E/R go down by one second. You cast W and Q/E/R go down by one second. To properly play him, you should build towards close to full cooldown reduction (40% is the cap). At full CDR, your Q has a 2.1 second cooldown. So you cast Q then W and by the time you've finished casting W, your Q is back up again, then you throw out the E and then Q is back up again.

Also, you generally get the movement speed quintessences to deal with the MS problem early game. There aren't many good MS items for Ryze, but Ryze's spammy single target spells are great with the new Furor enhancement, which gives you around 50 MS every time you cast Q. If you get good with ryze and learn to weave in autoattacks with your spells to make use of Muramana (which is generally better than Seraph's), then you'll keep that movement speed up nearly 60% of the time, every time.

Finally, your ult doesn't decrease your damage. Your single target spells deal the same amount, but deal 50% of the damage in an AOE around the single target, which means in a 1v1, you deal the exact same amount if there are no creeps around, but can deal more if your E bounces off a creep or a champ and the AoE hits your primary target. In a multiple person situation, the ultimate just makes your spells deal aoe damage with no decreased damage to the single target.

To really get Ryze mastered, you should look into smart-casting. The default binds for this would be shift+Q, shift+W, etc etc. Smartcasting will cause your abilities to cast on the target your mouse is hovering over, instead of requiring you to select a target after pressing your spell cast button. With the spam you will need to use to play Ryze, constantly clicking your target will slow down your damage capability. Also, you should learn to rotate your spells to get the most off at a time. Generally, you use your other abilities to reset the cd on Q to get as many Qs off in the shortest amount of time.

Generally, this means opening with Q and activating R just after it releases while the Q is still midair, then hitting Q and following with a W, then hitting Q and following with an E, then finishing with a Q. At this point, there's a 5 second cooldown on your W and a 7 sec cd on your E, so just spam Qs when they are up.

Good luck and feel free to hit me up with any questions

 

Not much to add because Ryze is pretty awesome if you want a Tanky champion who's ranged & can dish out decent damage, outside for guides I'd use Lolking over Mobafire, but it's all personal preference, some people prefer solomid/net & others prefer lolpro.

Early on though with mastery points you can probably afford to run movement speed in utility though it's only out of combat so, not too worth it.

 

Ryze is poster boy for spammy ranged tanky DPS.

And really, need you to specify which type of "ability spammer" you are.

Do you mean like Ryze, where you're constantly crapping out spells, or a more bursty mage who is reliant on spells instead of attacks?

Since if you're looking at pure spammy, then Ryze is basically end-all and you're set forever, with maybe Karthus, Cassiopea, Ahri, and Kog'maw being some side options.

The more bursty but still spammy mages opens up a ton of options, though.

 

A good endgame Ryze build should be Tear item, RoA, Sorc or Merc boots, Abyssal Scepter, Glacial Shroud item, and then a void staff, a second tear, or a conditional defensive item like a BV, GA, or Warmogs. Rush a tear early, and upgrade it once it is almost full. Otherwise, the build order above generally works.

Movement Speed quints are very useful, as well as 21 points in the utility tree for 3% MS. But until you hit lvl 21, there isn't too much you can do other than positioning well.

The cooldown on his R is deceptive: it goes down by 1 sec every time you use an ability. It should have an effective cooldown of around 55/45/35 seconds, which is not bad at all. It doesn't reduce your damage: it gives your spells a bonus 50% AoE damage: you can nuke down entire teams if they positioned poorly. Don't be afraid to use your ult to push a lane quickly, or to heal yourself up.

edit: ninjad

 

Spam mage is best for me, I think, though this is coming from a complete newbie so take that with a grain of salt.

Yeah, I think I was mistaking Desperate Power for choice of runes, for some reason. My mistake.

Still, sounds good.

 

Ryze is a good fit if you want it all. You get to constantly throw out abilities and be ranged and be tanky... but there's no careful timing, not really much in the way of tactics. Ryze just wades in to a fight and starts chucking lightning bolts at things until they fall over. Great if you just want to spam abilities, but there's nothing subtle about running around with a machine gun. Ryze is all about sustained damage. If you want to wait patiently for the right time to unleash massive damage, then you want a burst caster.

Have a look at Annie, Brand, LeBlanc and Lux. Very different champions to play, but they all follow the same basic idea: wait for the right moment, then mash QWER (in various orders) to instantly blow someone the fuck up.

 

Evan Tide and ElDee have it right. Ryze just combines a little of everything and does it pretty well. You can't beat that sort of combination on one champion. He's a great champion to become familiar with.

 

Another fun ranged champion to do combos with is Lux. For me, being far away from the enemy yet still destroying them is just a great feeling.

 

Lux is definitely one of my favorite mages. Getting that ulti in on someone who thought they'd gotten away is great.

 

Well, you can whiff her ult, so why not play Karthus and just go "Lulz" in the game. Then you guarantee kills.

 

Do you ever do anything wrong in these games you keep getting trolled in?

 

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Plenty, I keep watching the replays so I know, it just bugs me when othre people are far worse and somehow remain there.

I know for a fact in the game that got me dempoted I did several pretty bad mistakes near the end, most notable of which was whiffing my Ult as J4, I only caught the Olaf (which is still a good thing I guess) but missed the Lee to block his q and unfortunately split my team.

I know I used smite on red buff to help out the adc when she was behind rather than save it for the Baron we lost where their Jungler smited far too early and the support of all people killed it and I probably didn't help out top enough, but I figured a Garen wouldn't need help against Jax because he just faceplants Jax normally. I guess I got unlucky.

I make plenty of mistakes, I just tend to notice other peoples far beyond my own, doubly so when behind and everyone starts trying desperate things such as chasing that enemy carry on sub 10% hp... through their entire team. Lost too many fights where someone gets bloodthirsty and no manner of pinging or shouting stops them.

Perhaps my biggest mistake to work on currently is communication in early ganks - Either I forget to ping, people don't pay attention to my ping, don't tell me where wards are when I ask OR I dive and they don't, so 9/10 I get smashed.

Still, just blasting through aram's currently for a change of atmosphere and a break from the stress and it works, so, hopefully I'll stop being such a whiny bitch on here and actually have something constructive to add to conversations. Hopefully.

 

Yea, cuz arguments about how faggoty Yorick is is totally more constructive than your diary.

 

It may not have every song, but I like using this link personally. Included are several core songs, then everything from the Varus theme and after.

Oh... another link was already provided, although apparently mine has more songs on it than the 'official' link.

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Just going to say... hitting Teemo with a Lux Ult, even straight on, feels like it's below a 50% chance to get lucky.:facepalm

Dat hitbox.

 

I did say constructive, not people throwing their toys out the pram over one champion that was popular for maybe 6 weeks in the competitive scene and has since faded into the backwaters where he's played once every blue moon. I've seen more Karma's than I have Yorick's, but still.

Speaking of hitboxes and Lux, though they said they've fixed her ult, I still feel like it's off. By all rights I should've been dead in an aram yesterday, but a quick step to the left as Blitz and I lived despite the animation hitting me, I didn't take any damage. Now the same thing on the right happened about a week ago now and I got toasted.

Still need some tweaking, or is it just something we don't think they'll ever get right?

That and LCS should be far more interesting this week as they move onto the latest patch, so, no more Olaf's steamrolling through people, fun as it is to watch those Reckless Swings just destroy people.