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Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

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    Dude, Naruto's chakra dick is already bigger right now. Add on the Juubi and the only way it'd be remotely fair is if Sasuke turned his edo!Hokage on Naruto and made it 5 v 1.
     
  2. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    I believe Madara stated previously that he needs to be in a living body to have the Juubi sealed into him. The most suitable jailor at this point would probably be Sasuke assuming that Naruto is out.

    I can easily see Sasuke keeping up in this fight. I don't think he's shown the full abilities of his EMS and Naruto can give out Kyuubi's chakra to make his sharingan abilities even more potent. Whatever Sakura does will likely irritate me though.

    I have no real problems with Sasuke wanting to be Hokage even if I wanted him to die in a blaze of glory. He's audacious like that. However, I don't think he'll actually get the job unless Naruto and Kakashi die. I did like how he told the Rookies that he still didn't give a crap what they think and got rid of the idea of a group hug.

    I don't really have a problem with Minato having the KCM. As long as he's not immediately good at controlling the extensions of it that is.
     
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  3. Vikraal

    Vikraal First Year

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    Sasuke can't become a Juubi host without Senju Blood. So unless he's willing to swallow a Zetsu. Its unlikely he will be strong enough to hold it.
    ...and while Sasuke might do it, It should take quite some time for the Zetsu to properly merge with Sasuke. But Manga Logic will magic it as Instantaneous.
     
  4. Datakim

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    Hmm. Madara cannot become one as an edo. Its possible that Obito will surprise us, and rather than converting him Kakashi will anger Obito enough that he will shift back to the real world and Rinne Tensei Madara on the spot. Then its everyone vs Juubi!Rinnegan!Mokuton!Madara.

    I think it would be questionable for Naruto to seal Juubi in himself, considering he is already a jinchuuriki of Kurama. Can you even be a host to two bijuu at once? Naruto did get chakra from the other bijuu though so maybe.

    I have serious doubts about Sasuke becoming Juubi Jinchuuriki. I think everyone would (or atleast should) rightfully turn against him (even the hokages). I mean this guy was an international criminal just moments ago and only decided to help because of Hashiramas TnJ. If he says "I will become the Juubi jinchuuriki" then EVERYONE should instantly be suspicious of his motives and think that he only brought the hokages to help to trick people so he could get the power of the Juubi with which to annihilate everyone. Even Naruto should distrust THAT idea and fight Sasuke to prevent it.

    There is one more possibility however. Orochimaru. As Vikraal says, you presumably need a strong body to become host to Juubi. Guess who just took over a Zetsu clone of Hashirama? Orochimaru. Guess who still has control of all the hokages except Hashirama and can suddenly force them to turn on everyone else? Orochimaru. Guess who seems suspiciously absent from the fight? Orochimaru. Guess who has studied Uzumaki sealing techniques (the best there are) enough that he could actually undo Shiki Fuujin? Orochimaru.

    What if Orochimaru betrays everyone, turns the hokages against the alliance/Madara and in the confusion seals the Juubi inside his Senju DNA containing body with a seal he learned while studying the Uzumaki sealing techniques? Sure, he wants Sasuke, but with Juubi to power himself up he could just steal Sasukes eyes instead and implant them. Who cares about the problems with chakra that Kakashi for example has, when you have an unlimited chakra source sealed inside you. Not to mention that since he is in a body containing Senju DNA, then presumably implanting the EMS would allow those eyes to evolve to rinnegan. From a motivation perspective, Orochimaru should have every reason to try and grab Juubi for himself. And with control of the hokages and knowledge of sealing techniques he has the means, the motive and the opportunity.
     
  5. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage ~ Prestige ~

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    I like this idea, that Orochimaru is the final villain. It was already suspicious that he didn't arrive alongside Sasuke and Jugo and I can see him turning on the alliance at the last moment.

    He still wants to learn all the jutsu, right, and what better way to do so than to get the jyubi and with it the possibility to learn everything the sage could do?

    @ Howdy: A fight between Sasuke and Naruto would be meaningless, imo. What possible threat would Sasuke pose for Naruto at this point? A fight between those two would be one sided and short unless Naruto were to hold back or didn't have access to his supersayajin transformations.
     
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  6. Vikraal

    Vikraal First Year

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    @Datakim or the Sage will be Reborn Literally in the Juubi Host.
    Like KCM gave off the Rikudo effect, the other Bijuu also possess such pieces, and combined, the Sage returns.
    [By Your Powers combined, I am the Rikudo Sage!]

    After which he proceeds to destroy the Ninja System, because they have corrupted his teachings and used them as a Business for constant war.
     
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  7. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    Whether they're suspicious of Sasuke wanting to be the Juubi host is kind of irrelevant unless they have a better alternative. The only person I can think of that might work who isn't a villain or host is Karin. The Juubi at full power was suppose to end the world so leaving it around to wreck everything is unacceptable.
     
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  8. Darth Disaster

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    On Sakura: Let me tell you, from someone with Combat experience. No-one bitches at the combat medic to pick up a gun and put down the medical kit. No-one. No one makes fun of them for being useless or worthless or anything like that. Even when they lose people.

    So she's been relegated to a classic Female-In-Shonen role. Healer/Support/Cheerleader. Hopefully in this fight we'll see some development.

    That said, Tsunade was supposed to be a Combat Monster, as well. But one must assume that she started out focusing primarily on medic and that the Combat Monster part came after as she applied those skills in new and creative ways. Ways which Sakura has been working on Mastery of, as well. But has been focusing primarily on Medic since they're at war.

    I honestly hope that she is finally coming together in that fashion, that the pieces are falling into place, and that we'll see her as a useful member of a battle. For the first time in near half a decade.

    Goddamn Kishimoto.
     
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  9. Vikraal

    Vikraal First Year

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    Well Team 7's opponent is Madara. I am going to guess she has one to those binding scrolls that were used on the other Edo's, and is going to wrap Madara in it, and attempt to seal him off, while Sasuke and Naruto are the distraction/Shield.

    It would be alot easier, if Sakura somehow knew how to perform Reverse Four Symbols Seal. The one Danzo pulled in his final moments, that should be more effective against Madara.

    Although Minato could steal her Spotlight, as he's a guy, and most likely knows how to use Reverse Four Symbols seal and is faster than Sakura. Even as a Shadow Clone.
    I have no idea how Madara survived Tobirama. Tobirama may have been slower, but how do you survive a Opponent that appeared in front of you, with his sword at your neck.

    Tobi-to didn't show any signs to counter Time-Space techniques. Clearly the Kyuubi attack would have been more successful, if Black Zetsu guided him better.
     
  10. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    You survive people appearing in front of you, with a sword at your neck by having an unholy chakra armor that prevents such things from happening.
     
  11. Trooper

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    New Chapter up on MangaPanda. I'm not linking it since I will also wait for Stream to release a proper translation.

    On the Chapter...

    If only Sakura could grow Boobs. Now that would actually make her useful.
     
  12. Nauro

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    Is it just me, or is Sakura drawn somewhat weirdly these last few updates?

    In any case, I got what I expected from Sakura - at the very least (Also - three years - why didn't she use it against Sasuke a couple of months(?) ago? That would have been better than poison. Or was it set like a microwave's timer?). But there were a couple of panels that went and ruined that effect. First, there was a weird expression where she is caught off guard and then, an even weirder echo where everyone wants to be Hokage. Even Kiba.
     
  13. Knyght

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    Actually, Kiba said something about becoming Hokage right before the war. I think he keeps getting caught up in the moment.

    Edit: Since Sakura was taking the assassination route with Sasuke, it'd make sense for her to use poison over her megapunch. Less graphic too. Though it could be taken as an unconscious sign of her being unwilling to really kill Sasuke; using a weapon he would likely be immunised to thanks to Orochimaru's experiments.
     
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  14. Trooper

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    Kishi's misguided attempts to make her look more like Tsunade. You know that whole surpassed your teacher thing? He's trying that here with Sakura.
     
  15. Nemrut

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    Well, to be honest, I am underwhelmed. She punches hard, yay. That was the skill that she had shown after the time skip and in the Pain invasion. Now, she punches a bit harder, still not worth shit if she doesn't have the rest of the skillset necessary to actually hit the enemy. Most shinobi can kill their enemy if they can land a hit. This is like the Rasengan over again. Normal Rasengan can already kill you, so, what use is the Odama rasengan? So that it really, really can kill you? Sure, there are specific enemies or situations sometimes where it can be useful, no doubt, but not exactly something to celebrate or proclaim her as the next Tsunade over.

    In all honesty, I had hoped for something new and better. I mean, Tsunade's seal also can heal nearly every wound she receives, that's a lot better than being able to punch a bit stronger than before. Maybe hers can too. Still uncertain why Shizune can't use the technique, I mean, she doesn't have enough chakra control, as a medic who has trained for nearly two decades under Tsunade? So, once again the whole hard work vs talent thing has an obvious conclusion which punches hard work right in the balls.

    Also, found it oddly disrespectful for her to say that she doesn't need her seal to look younger. What a dickish thing to say to/about the 50+ year old woman who gave you her best techniques and who trained you, allowing you to become slightly relevant in this. Yeah, she doesn't need it now, because she is fucking 17 or so but I bet she will be grateful in 30-40 years.

    The jyubi splitting up in quirky mini-bosses was lame and unnecessary and I wish Kishi had found another way to make the second stringers relevant to the fight.

    About the only good thing that has happened in this chapter was Madara refusing to fight the clone because he just wants to fight Hashirama. That's all he wants, all he ever wanted, a good fight/hate-flirt with his OTL/Eternal Rival/BFF. Finally a motivation from a villain that I can respect and understand. None of this must lie/enslave/destroy the world into eternal peace bullshit that the last two or three villains have been vomiting over the panels.

    Just get it over with the dumb jyubi thing that is about to get blasted with friendship and contrived powers and let us watch the fight between the edo tensei.

    By the way, it is a travesty that they summoned the strongest fighters ever, the four Hokage, who have been, by now, hyped up pretty hard and have them just stand there, upholding a contrived and convenient barrier, basically benching them from a real fight. Yeah, that is what I wanted to see Sarutobi and Minato doing, just stand there, conjuring a barrier so that we can experience Sakura using her super-strength against the jyuubi mini-me's that would have been laughed off the set of the Power Rangers.
     
  16. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    Shizune reached her limit in chakra control. Chakra control's always been Sakura's defining trait and her ability allowed her to surpass Shizune. It happens. Hard work (and/or experience) can overcome natural talent but it doesn't mean it always will, and it's not as if Sakura hasn't been working hard herself. Maybe Shizune could achieve it if she ignored her other skills and focused relentlessly on training her chakra control but not everyone's willing to put in that insane amount of effort. So Sakura being more skilled at chakra control doesn't bug me or surprise me in the slightest.

    Though she might have actually impressed me if she finally showcased her supposed potential for genjutsu.
     
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  17. chaosfire999

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    So Tsunade's enhanced strength was already a thing when she was young enough for Hashirama to still be around?
     
  18. Nauro

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    I read it not as in "hah, I'm still young", but rather "Hah, I save X% of power leakage."
    The line is cheap, though.


    Many good points, though. I expected it to turn around this way, and it's just enough for me not be disspointed about sakura, except the couple of places where I am.

    In any case, eager to see if this was a one time thing - and that's it. Then I'll have an opinion.


    Also, I think everyone should be hokage in the end - have the mountain filled with heads from all kind of shinobi - everyone to be the hokage at the same time ;D.
     
  19. Cxjenious

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    It took her three years to charge up? Pathetic.
     
  20. Knyght

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    I think it was more "been charging it for 3 years" rather than "took 3 years to charge it", plus building up her chakra after using it to heal Naruto so she can go all out.

    Edit: Actually, I'm a little confused. The Yin Seal's appeared but she hasn't actually started using it yet. So where's all this power coming from? Is this what happens when she's stopped devoting any chakra to the seal?
     
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