Harry must be paired with alternate dimension Tonks. Make it happen, OP.

 

This story degrading into a harem story is probably one of the few things that would make me stop reading. I think, as Cxjenious said, as long as he makes the romance and marriage as realistic as possible most of us will be happy. Harems aren't realistic, even in Westeros.

But I think that was sarcasm on your part, so you probably agree.

Pass on that. For me, Osha has none of the appeal of Tonks. She's not an authority figure (Auror), she's not a metamorphmagus, and she has a much darker personality. She also doesn't bring anything on the political front. Plus the logistics of that are pretty hard.

Speculating about the plot and wars is hard because it depends on who he's fighting, who his allies are, and many other currently unknown factors, but since most of us are familiar with character personalities it's much easier to simply speculate about who Harry will love or marry and thus there is more of that going on in this thread. Only natural. There's only so many women Harry could end up with, while the plot could go in nearly any direction.

However, I am wondering about two key plot developments. First, will Robert appoint Harry his heir instead of Joffrey? At one point in the novel Robert says he'd like to go to the free cities and start a mercenary company, but he can't do it because that would make Joffrey king. So Robert is well aware Joffrey would make a shit king - even worse than him - so I can honestly see him naming Harry his heir.

Secondly, I wonder if Renly will be drawn more from book Renly or TV Renly. Book Renly only had a few lines, but there were hints he wanted to be king for the power and that he was a bit of a douche bag. TV Renly was portrayed more sympathetically and seemed to generally believe he'd be best for the realm. If it's TV Renly, and if Robert actually does name Harry his heir, I can see Renly backing Harry. Renly objected to both STannis and Joffrey because he thought they'd make crappy kings. Assuming he is somewhat close to Harry and is therefore aware that Harry has a lot of support and is extremely competent, he might support him. Hell, he might even love Harry as he said he once loved Stanni (not in a slashy way). Plus Renly was a big fan of Selmy, even going so far as to keeping a spot for him in his kingsguard and ordering his knights not to kill Selmy if it turned out Selmy was fighting for Stannis. So he might be influenced by Selmy's admiration and support of Harry.

But of course, the problem with both of these things happening is it takes out a lot of the conflict from the story. Although he'd still probably have to fight the Starks (if Ned is still executed), the Wildlings, the Ironborn, Daenarys, and the Others, so there's still plenty of other battles and foes for him to fight.

Another thought... if Selmy remains with Harry, wouldn't Daenarys die from that manticore Selmy saved her from? Hmm.

Or maybe Cxjenious will throw a complete wrench in things. Joffrey becomes king and their family backs Joffrey, so rather than fight his own family or fight for Joffrey, Harry leaves Westeros in disgust and messes around in the Free Cities for awhile, perhaps leading a mercenary company like his father wanted to, maybe using a fake name.

Then Daenarys approaches the mercenary company looking to hire them to help her retake the Iron Throne, not knowing its leader is the son of the "Usuper" she hated. This plot probably has a snowballs chance in hell of happening, but at this point I have no idea where the plot is going and that type of off the wall story line is the only way I could see Daenarys and Harry hooking up.

Note I don't want Cxjenious to actually answer these questions in this thread. I'd rather learn about them as I read the story. Just throwing some thoughts out there while we wait for the next chapter.

 

... You know Osha looks like a dude, right?

 

Doesn't Bran say she has a saggy washboard chest?

 

I can give you a realistic harem if you want.

Everyone learns what Harry can do. It takes time, but they accept it and later are in awe of his magic. Then they want it too, but that's impossible. Unless Harry's children will have the same ability.

At first it's a race to get him married to women from their Houses, but then things change. It's not really important for them to be his wife. Not even if Harry is a prince or a king. They just want them to have children with him, even if they will be bastards.

Then someone proposes creation of something like a harem to make it more official. And Harry, though reluctantly, agrees because he wants to populate Westeros with Wizards and Witches and it will speed up this process.

I doubt it will happen in this story, but it could and it would make sense.

 

Make it happen in meta-fanfic.

@cxjenious, I would read whatever the pairing is. Just dont stop writing. Please.

 

I think if he got together with Daenerys, and for whatever reason didn't come into direct conflict, whether over the throne or his desire to harvest the dragons for materials, then there'd be room for a second wife and third dragon rider.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but can Harry still use parseltongue?

 

Lol, I won't. It shouldn't take me much longer to finish the next chapter.

No, he can't.

 

I'm loving this story, Cxjenious.

Do the Silent Sisters actually speak? And in public?

 

Good catch. They don't.

 

Am I just imagining the thematic link between Harry and the Lord of Light?

The constant references to Harry's anger as fire and heat. Just before Aeryn is raped, he's at the blacksmith's who's working metal in the flame. Harry heats a man's blood until it boils. The image of Harry as a dragon-in-human-form stuck with me for the entirety of the scene in the Pit. Cersei's face is brightened by flame when Harry's at his lowest and needs her acceptance more than ever.

Harry even holds fire in his hands at one point.

To top it off, Aeryn's mother says a blessing over Harry,

And Thoros the red priest decides to become involved for religious reasons.

Whatever you are doing, Cxjenious, keep doing more of it.

Harry believes in the Stranger, but he seems to be becoming unwittingly tied to the faith of R'hllor.

 

It felt more like it was referencing his Targaryen blood rather than the Lord of Light, especially given that we've seen so many Targaryens in the story through their ghosts.

 

Well, the Enemy of the Lord of Light, the Great Other, is also known as "The one whose name may not be spoken." Can't you just hear the hyphenation there?

Coincidence? The Song and Ice and Fire is, in its very beating heart, a story about balance.

 

I see what WD meant. The amount of pairing discussion instead of actual fic discussion is.... too much for words. Is it because this is the only good fic of the fandom that everyone wants their favorite pairing? (Spoilers in coming...) Either way, as Edmure has shown, it dosen't matter who you shag, the fact you shag someone means you're probably gonna survive a wedding.

 

Like everyone else, I'm looking forward to Tywin teaching Harry. He's really the perfect person to guide him, being a man of principles though, granted, not the principles that Harry has. I'd like to see Harry and Joffrey interactions. Clearly there is no love loss, but does Joffrey consider Harry an enemy, rival, or a lesser? Do either have any loyalty towards the other? I can see Cersei urging both of them to respect the other and be more brotherly, not wanting her children to fight. Maybe a scene between Harry and Joffrey showing some sort of understanding or middle ground between them?

 

I think the best way to describe Joffrey's feelings towards Harry would be "absolute loathing". I've only read the first book, but even there it's made pretty clear what a massive inferiority complex Joffrey has. In most cases, he's at least got his rank to comfort himself with, but Harry's a prince too, one who their father clearly favours. Joffrey both despises and fears Harry, and hates him all the more for making him feel afraid. If he could get away with poisoning his food, I don't think he'd think twice about it.

Bringing up another topic, if Voldemort has been reincarnated, did he enter the world at the same time as Harry, or 190 years ahead of him? And how did something with one seventh of a soul manage to get reincarnated? A big implication of the horcruxes seemed to that sure, they offer a short-term benefit, but once someone finally manages to off you, you are really not going to be happy with what the afterlife has in store for you. If Voldemort has managed to slip into this world, his existence should be tortured and subhuman.

 

I don't remember Voldemort ever being mentioned. Did I miss something?

 

Sorry, I'm pretty sure it was mentioned by Cxjenious over on the Song of Ice and Fire thread that Voldemort has been reincarnated North of the Wall. I may be mistaken.

 

I don't like the idea of Voldemort showing up, though if he does then I'm sure cxjenious would have good reason. It just seems a bit cheap giving Harry an absolute evil to rally against as opposed to fighting the gray enemies of Westeros, then again the same can be said for a wand as well. For some reason, I don't think Harry's wand, if he gets one, will be near as effective as an Ollivander would be.

 

It was done to balance out Harry's magic, so he can't simply go North of the Wall and just blast every Others away. Plus, do you really think everyone will 'rally' against this great evil when they have difficulty sending troops to the Night's Watch against a wildlings invasion because they don't fucking care what happens at the other side of the world.