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General League of Legends v.2.0

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Dark Syaoran, Sep 10, 2012.

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  1. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    Maybe the ping differential is more stark, because the a.i. has nearly perfect reaction time?
     
  2. Kaemrynn

    Kaemrynn Fourth Year

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    Wait, wait, wait. This might explain why all the EU players are terrible; they start out against easy bots, and the NA players have to challenge themselves. :awesome
     
  3. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    If you're playing on a fresh NA account and your level 30 EU account... yeah, you're going to find NA bot games are harder. You're weaker without runes and masteries. Being paired up with 4 other dudes who also have no runes and masteries makes it worse. Some of them are going to be genuinely new players too.
     
  4. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    Hmm... Potential(likely?) upcoming Yi changes.

    I never played Yi intentionally, but if that particular change goes through, then I'm not sure why they even mention AP Yi in the opening section. Aside from a mention of the possibility in the latter part, it would outright eliminate it, with Alpha Strike becoming both AD scaling and purely Physical damage.
     
  5. Kaemrynn

    Kaemrynn Fourth Year

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    So they're basically turning him into an AD caster to go mid, with his Q scaling off AD instead of AP; thus giving a similar feel to (potentially) absurd damage on his Q as it once was with AP ratios.

    Instead of a mage, they want an AD caster Yi. Which makes more sense, considering his lore. I mean, he gets the goggles because he has no magic ability. But in game, AP was more popular in ranked than AD because, as they mentioned, unless he snowballs, he can't do shit.

    Now we're up to... Let's see... Pantheon, Talon, Zed, Garen, Kha'Zix, Jayce, Urgot, and now Master Yi for AD casters. At least, those are the more commonly considered ones. They aren't champions I normally play, so input from someone who does play AD casters could probably give a better list.
     
  6. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Yi has been one of my first and favorite characters, so I'm glad to see him getting some attention and a rework.
     
  7. Zerg_Lurker

    Zerg_Lurker Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Potential Jayce nerf, with his E getting a cooldown of 16s across all levels. Transform not proccing Manamune makes sense because his stacking is stupid fast, but this? Ffffffffffuuuuuuck.
     
  8. Lb13

    Lb13 Second Year

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    These nerfs made me smile, now all they need to do is nerf Draven and Vayne and I'll be satisfied.
     
  9. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Honestly, I hate Yi. Just period, I think he is bad for the game and under no circumstances should he be viable (basically like Poppy, as admitted by Riot) because every one of his mechanics is frustrating with the only counterplay being "don't get hit by them via proximity", "build defenses and hope you survive", or "wait it out".

    Q->Don't get hit
    W-> Wait it out
    E->Don't get hit (AP) or build defenses (AD)
    R-> Build defenses and hope you survive.
     
  10. theronin

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    W-> Stun him.
    E-> Stun him.
    R-> Stun him.
     
  11. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    If you don't have a hard CC? Or you've already used it? Heaven forbid he activates his R and attacks you (so you stun) and then he hits W. And in either event you haven't really dealt with the issue, just put it off for a second or so.
     
  12. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    If you don't have hard CC, why are you trying to 1v1 a fed Master Yi?
     
  13. Lb13

    Lb13 Second Year

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    Most generic advice I've ever heard.

    Easiest way to shit on Yi is to just play J4 against him. Jarvan trashcans Yi so hard it's not funny, his whole kit is designed to fuck over Yi. Or you can play Cho, Jax, Nasus, Irelia, Jayce, Kennen, Alistar, Mundo, Amumu, Maokai, Malphite, Ryze, Pantheon, Singed, Tryndamere, Skarner, Voli, Veigar, or Xin and just beat his ass with any of those heroes.
     
  14. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    For one, he may not be fed. Another reason is because he decides to roam and kill you while you're farming...in lane. Under tower.
     
  15. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    I've seen all of those dump on LB13 playing Yi, so I can confirm.
     
  16. theronin

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    Was kinda the point. He was claiming that all of Yi's abilities had "no counterplay". I was offering a very simple form of countering.
     
  17. Zerg_Lurker

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    Was going to disagree but then yeah. The main problem I have with Yi is early in mid, around 2-3 because he has Alpha Strike to farm, harass and evade skillshots all in one. Want some melee minions or even farm under turret? Eat 200 damage if you're unlucky.

    Thankfully the patch will reduce that sort of randomness.
     
  18. Wildfeather

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    The fuck are you even talking about dude? I explicitly state three forms of counterplay to Yi in the first time I discuss my hatred of Yi. My point isn't that they don't exist, but that they aren't satisfying.
     
  19. Trooper

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    In my experience, Ignite, exhaust, MF's passive of her w/e( I don't remember if it was w or e), Fizz's dot...go a long way in neutralizing Yi.
     
  20. BsuperB

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    I only ever found Yi annoying in ARAM's where he becomes an unstoppable machine if your comp has no CC or a healing debuff.

    Depends whether he goes AP or AD in Ranked, AD is probably infinitely scarier as you can't kite him and he does so much more damage, AP is more... not really sure, it feels like a Nasus where you should shut him down early, but it's difficult unless his meditate's on CD.

    Edit; Silly question - Do Boots of Swiftness stack with Tenacity in regards to reducing slows? Wondering about the likes of Nasus' wither as tenacity increases the speed the slow ramps up due to the decreased duration.
     
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