Yeah . Though to be fair, Naruto has probably taken and run with it and might well know more about it than Tobirama does (about the non-technical non-scientific aspects anyway) due to greater experience in constant clone usage.

Said this on two other forums already, but why not here.

Two possibilities.

First is one I saw on another forum, and that Hashirama meant that after the boost, everyone had as much chakra as he did. Not sure I buy that.

Second possibility.

He was not talking about the combined chakra of Minato+Naruto+both Kuramas. He was talking about the chakra Naruto actually did use.

Remember, Narutos Yang!Kurama is basically out of chakra. When Naruto tried accessing BM earlier, it jut fizzled out. Yang!Kurama also had to ask his counterpart for chakra. So while Yang!Kurama may have produced some chakra, he is still not even close to restored. Lets say he has 10% of his normal chakra (or 5% of full Kurama).

Naruto himself must be virtually out of chakra too. He was training on the island, then he fought raikage and ran around in KCM for who knows how long, while Kurama was sucking his chakra (Kurama stopped at some point yes). He created dozen clones that he sent everywhere, and then fought Obito and the edo!jins. He should be near fatal chakra exhaustion basically. I would say Narutos reserves are near zero, and he contributes basically nothing.

Minatos role in the job was to be connected to all the people, so he could teleport them all. I am not at all sure if he contributed anything at all. Even if he did however, his chakra reserves havent been implied to be legendary.

And then there is Yin!Kurama, the one who truly supplied the power.

And finally, you have to consider how MUCH chakra Naruto used. Remember that the goal here was simply to connect Minato to everyone, so that Minato could teleport everyone out. The goal was NOT to give everyone as huge a boost as possible. That means Naruto would surely have kept the boost as tiny as possible to save chakra against Obito (which is also why I tend to reject the idea that all the fodder became Hashiramas).

This fact is further confirmed by the fact that Naruto was still in BM, after the teleport happened. If you recall earlier, when Naruto uses all the chakra, he drops back to base. Here, he did not.

So basically, its quite possible (and even plausible, IMHO), that Naruto basically took something like 5-10% of the chakra of the yin!Kurama (who is already only 50% of the full Kurama), and thats all he used, leaving the rest to be used against Obito. And it is that amount of chakra Hashirama compared himself to. Incredibly impressive to be sure considering how powerfull Kurama has been hyped to be, but not as utterly stupid as claiming that Hashirama has as much or more chakra as Kurama.

 

http://readms.com/r/naruto/644/2027/10

This directly refutes you on Naruto conserving his chakra. Hashirama's comment just seems like another of Kishi's trololol without any consequence to what it actually means.

 

Naruto just used Sage Mode, and he has used Sage Mode numerous times to replenish his chakra over the course of events you described. Remember that Sage Mode helps Naruto to recover his chakra every time he uses it. He's not nearly as close to chakra exhaustion as you imply. Yang-Kurama is running low, but not Naruto himself. And we know that Kurama can recover his chakra very rapidly from what we've already seen from this war. I would wager that Yang-Kurama contributed a decent amount of his chakra to the fist bump 'meld', though Yin-Kurama definitely had a lot more to spare. Minato has essentially unlimited chakra as an Edo Tensei reanimation, but I imagine he's limited in how much he can use at one time.

Anyway, I think Hashirama really did suggest that his chakra is about as powerful as a complete Kurama, which is absurd, but hey, at least the Uchiha aren't the only ones getting hax love from Kishi now.

 

Well, Kisame's chakra pool could rival bijuu, so I wouldn't be surprised if Hashirama have more chakra then Kyuubi and Naruto combined.

 

Exactly. A's chakra reserves were stated to be on par with a bijuu's and his father was even more powerful. You also have Kisame with chakra on par with a bijuu. It's not that surprising that Hashirama's chakra would equal or exceed Kyuubi's. He did beat Madara and Kyuubi together. I'm pretty sure that Kishi made the top tier so absurdly powerful in the first place just so that they could compete with bijuu and jinchuuriki on equal footing.

 

You are both joking right? The sole thing the bijuu have going for them now is their near unlimited chakra, and now you are taking that away from them. What is the point if that is the case? There should be a reason Kisame was a monster, and a freak of nature. It should be physically impossible to produce anywhere close to Bijuu amounts of chakra.

This is why it is so fucked up. You are meant to beat the Bijuu with skill, not with being capable of throwing just as much chakra back at them.

 

I found this chapter entertaining but it felt like nothing really happened. You could really summarize this as "They escaped the barrier and Naruto/Tobirama had more funny moments". Perhaps I am expecting a bit much but I just feel it is still getting pointed out how strong Obito is and that the protagonists are still barely escaping.

 

The point is what happens when a bijuu is sealed?. The jinchuuriki can gain access to those enormous reserves of chakra. They'd then have the skill of a shinobi backed up by crap tons of chakra. I doubt Kishi wanted being a jinchuuriki be to mean an automatic victory and that only other jinchuuriki can actually compete with you. Winning a battle just because you can outlast your opponents is lame.

Besides shinobi can't replenish their chakra in 15 minutes by meditating.

 

Rubbish. First of all, stop pulling numbers out your ass. 5%, 10%, 50%...none of this is even HINTED at in the manga that we're ALL reading.

On the issue of "how MUCH" chakra Naruto is really giving the Shinobi alliance, Chouji himself said the chakra shroud was bigger and stronger now. That's another way of saying MORE. And by doing a little simple math and estimation you'll realize that thesum total of what Naruto shared was MIND BOGGLING.

And on to the instigator of all this crap, Haxirama....he claimed that Naruto's chakra volume (basically amount) was "incredible" and comparable to his own amount of chakra. Before moving on, let me clear something up; Naruto is a Jinchuriki that's in harmony with his Biju. Their chakras are one big happy interchangeable pile now. Just because Haxirama said "his (Naruto's) chakra", doesn't mean he or in fact I feel that the shared chakra is normal, human chakra.

Back to Haxirama....again- Since he made the claim that Naruto's chakras were as big as his (har har) he must be a fucking MONSTER.
Naruto, with only the Yang Chakra KCM was able to deflect FIVE Bijudamas from WHOLE Bijus. That's ridiculous. And now Mr. Big n Long Chakras Hashirama is saying he has the ability to do even better than that (Kyuubi is "whole" now), not because he has some awesome technique that was specially designed to carry out that function, but because he is packing just as much heat. WTF? Not to mention, he a chakra sensor too now ( and he's not in sage mode ) that's so good he can pick up Minato's chakra signature for the Hiraishin through that maelstrom of chakra that Naruto kicked up.

How the fuck did this guy even die?!? I bet he's not even dead. He's probably turned himself into a giant fucking tree in the forest of death that they feed S-Class nukenin and minor gods to.

 

Yeah, Hashirama's a monster. He's already overpowered a full powered Kyuubi + S rank monster combo.

 

Calling it now. Hashirama is actually the Sage of the Six Paths.

/Sarcasm

 

Really? Having huge chakra reserves is the line? None of the other crazy hax nonsense was a big deal, it's the huge chakra reserves? Really?

 

I drew the line at the big fuckin' wood hands statue that was bigger than Konoha itself. That thing was batshit crazyville.

 

I mean, I drew the line at Jiraiya dying. That was the last decent part. As cool as B is, he can't make up for Jiraiya.

Everything was shit from there. Honestly if we could just go into a 45 chapter reflection of naruto and jiraiya's travels I'd be happy.

Everything has just been a series of trump cards since then. Sasuke is about to discover another amazing technique like izanagi/izanami that will bind the bijuu.

 

I stopped reading the second i saw tomoe in a rinegan...

 

Jesus Christ I can't stop laughing at this. Thank you. I read it aloud to my gf but she didn't find it nearly as amusing. I have been wondering this as well though. What the hell could have killed him lol?

I also feel like this is why Tobirama has invented so many freaking techniques. Imagine living in Hashirama's shadow lol.

 

So, DLP...any ideas as to how Kishi is gonna have Hashirama and Madara save themselves from Onmyouton Armageddon? The last time I checked, neither of them had S/T jutsu and Naruto didn't give them any chakra.

Edit: @ Red Wizard - You're welcome.

 

Madara still seems to have a trump to use on Obito.

 

Hashirama and Madara have plot shields called Rinnegan and Mokuton respectively.

 

His sage techniques do seem to capitalize on his abilities with Mokuton (Wood Dragon/Thousand Hands/Living Soul). Tree sage?