please correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't read the book in a while but is Wormtail's hand real silver or am I correct in thinking that noble metals (Cu, Ag, Au, Pt, Pd, sometimes Ir.) couldn't be conjured? I mean mainly the first four.

Cu = Copper
Ag = Silver
Au = Gold
Pt = Platinum
Pd = Palladium
Ir = Iridium

 

In all honesty there probably should be no difference in being able to conjure different things, but there probably is. If you were able to conjure these items of value how would the wizarding world function though. Isn't there galleon gold and the sickles silver and knuts bronze or copper. If you conjure these metals how would it stop people from manufacturing there own coins or selling it into the muggle world and then exchange it for wizard money from gringotts.

Plus wasn't that one of the main reasons for people wanting the philosophers stone. If they could just create gold there would be no point in including that with it because then the only good thing it does is make u near immortal.

I can't remember though was the silver actually conjured or was it already there and then shaped onto wormtails arm.

 

I think you may be confused with another series, I can't find it anywhere in the books about restrictions about metals specifically. But there is enough to draw some conclusions.

One is that conjured items will not stay indefinitely, but will disappear after some period of time.

The other is that Leprechaun gold will vanish after some period of time.

So it is a logical deduction that their gold is in fact conjured gold. Whether wizards can do the same is irrelevant.

Since we don't hear any issues about conjured objects scams of any kind it is safe to say there is an easy system for figuring out whether the item is conjured or not.

So if wizards could conjure gold or silver, it would not screw up their economy for some period of time. This is why the Sorceror's Stone is such a big deal besides the whole Eternal Youth thing, even if gold conjuring is possible.

As for Wormtail's hand, it can be something besides conventional conjuration, it has been conjured more than once since then(unlikely), or its a plothole. This is true whether its actual silver or not because I can't see how a conjuration that sophisticated could last for over a year, for those who don't remember we see the hand again in the beginning of HBP in Snape's house.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but Wormtail's hand is simply describe as being silver not that it is in fact made of it. The Lexicon dosn't mention a silver hand in their Wormtail entry, it just says that the hand was conjured by Voldemort and was made out of something shiney.

About conjuring, conjured food has always baffled me, if all conjured obejects go aways after a period of time dose this mean that all conjured food and drink has absolutly no nutritional value?

 

That point is actually covered in nonjon's Browncoat, Green Eyes when Harry conjures doughnuts with flavor, but no caloric content. If Wormtail's hand is actually made of silver, then it was conjured, as there was no mention of silver being present in that area. I think it is not made of silver, as the book never actually says it is silver, merely that it looked silver. Specifically like molten silver, until it was shaped into a hand. Many people have taken this description to mean that the hand is silver, and is thus instrumental in harming/killing Remus.

 

that's why I ask, I thought I read somewhere in the books that you couldn't make gold, silver or copper. But the hand is silver, I don't remember it being made of silver, just silver colored. Yet in most fics that I've seen Wormtail and Moony fighting and Wormtail wins it because of the Silver hand

 

Unless JKR created another plothole the hand most likely simply looks silver and is made of something else. As for the fics, authors are wrong plently of times, IMO its just another blindly accepted cliche.

 

I think JKR once said that Wormtail was not going to kill Remus with his hand. Whether or not it is because the hand isn't really silver, I can't say.

 

Whatever it was, it definitely looks to be conjured. Although i don't think it would be silver, unless it was silver with magical properties. Wormtail's able to move the hand, flex and use it as normal, so it's unlikely that it would be 'normal' silver, if it is silver at all. It could simply be some magical substance that we don't know about, that has the appearance of silver, with a shiny surface.

 

It was Voldemort that did it. He can do stuff no other wizards can. It might be a spell he created, or one he found.

 

Yeah i always assumed it was silver.

Would be kind of funny if he tries to kill Remus by touching him and it ends up doing nothing. Then Remus just rips him apart.

 

That would be funny. But we don't know for sure if the hand is silver. All we know is that its a silvery substance. For all we know it could be Titanium or Aluminium.

 

It must be very advanced piece of magic, to be considered a reward from Lord Voldemort in front of Death Eaters. I don't think some average Joe can do this. So if it is silver, it can't be big problem to economics. Besides, I'm certain, that wizarding world can distinguish money made by goblins from fake currency.

 

This wouldn't be an overly serious problem for anyone with almost any knowledge about muggles. All a wizard would have to do is sell the pure substance in the muggle world and get the money earned from it converted to galleons in gringotts. Easy fortune.

 

Who said that Gringotts or Ministry isn't monitoring large amount's of muggle money exchanged by wizards and where they come from, like muggles? Wizards must earn wizardring money. Only parents of muggleborns usually exchange money(muggle>galleons), so it definetely would be suspicious if some wizard would constantly come to Gringotts with bunch of muggle money.

 

The reason that would not work is that if Wizards could do that without getting caught it would already be occurring with other conjured objects. Think about it. The wizard conjures clothes and sells it to muggles. They get pure profit from it and the satisfaction of knowing that they have bamboozled a muggle, i.e the muggle is wearing the clothes when they inevitably dissipate.

We don't hear Mr. Weasley or anyone else having problems with conjuring fraud so it must not be worth it to do. There is probably a magical IRS that looks into any suspicious transactions, particularly coming from the muggle world. They would attempt to find where the money is coming from and whether or not it is legitimate.

 

could be too that it's similar to the gold that they got at the world cup from the Leprechauns without the disappearing part

 

But wouldn't that information be confidential like most banks on who's exchanging money. I'm sure the goblins would make a nice profit out of it so they wouldn't complain.

Also how do we know that there arn't a lot of wizards who work in the muggle world. I mean there'd have to be a few. If Arthur Weasley had a little bit more knowledge about the muggle world try and keep him out of a bulldozer or something.

As to the silver hand though it might be an unknown spell I mean he did in fact come back from the dead/fragment of soul. I bet there's a lot he can do that no one else can