I love that answer. Although I'm not quite so sure I want to admit that Titus is scum but the thought has crossed my mind. She does post a lot and when she doesn't things seem to slow down a lot and I am having a hard time keeping up.

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Thanks for fixing my derp. I didn't know two people could start in jail at the beginning.

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Or that daychat is this lol. Sorry for that. #newb

 

@Mathblade:

There is a jail.
We know this because ika flipped "Jailed Mafia Goon".

Zeitgeist flipped "Mafia Wiretrapper"
Therefore Jail is not synonymous with Mafia.

Zennith is the only one who can add people to jailchat.
He claimed that role and Titus + Citrus confirmed that Titus is now in jail. Therefore that is true.
(They can't all be scum because a 5-player team with double-vote would be hilariously unfair.)

Given that a jail with 2 scum and 1 town (or even 3 scum) starting makes little sense, Citrus and Zennith are probably town. (I'm personally still entertaining the possiblitly of jail= 1 town, 1 third-party, 1 scum)

Titus is town, because of her double-vote, her interactions with ika and Zeit and 200 posts of town-posting.

 

I was doubting before, but what you say makes sense too...

Too many people are making sense and someone has to be lying ugh

*brain hurt*

 

Vote: Riley poole
I still think this is the best vote. I also don't know what the vote count is so I don't want to hammer (on phone)
Been busy, but should have more time to post by the next day

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I'll check in later, we have like 10 hours left I think

 

Wait what? When has Sloth ever been in Jail? It started out as Zennith, Ika and Citrus, and Titus was a no show N1 and then was added N2. That's it.

 

No one has answered my question and I'm getting annoyed at repeating it.

When you all realize I'm town because I'll flip town. WHO ARE YOU FOCUSING ON? If your answer is anything along the lines of "hah, we can't be sure cuz you're derp town" than I have no hope for humanity and you're all idiots.

If however you have someone in mind, I can at least give some input on it.

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I'm not really sure anymore whom was in Jail at start, I just know that Zennith and two others started in Jail. I tried to find the relevant post but I lack the desire to search more than 5 minutes at this point.

 

https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=707620#post707620

 

Ah hah, sorry then. Citrus and Ika started in jail. Mistake on my part. Carry on.

 

Yeah, Sloth has never been in Jail. At one point I talked about jailing him, but it didn't happen. Jail started with Me, Citrus, and Ika. I'm a little skeptical of Moridin, but Riley's uberdefensiveness leaves me a bit wary, and I think a vote would best be placed on him.

 

.....How is my desire to know who you're going to look at once you lynch me uberdefensiveness Zennith?

Seriously, is everyone on drugs or something. I ask a simple question and you all decide to dance around it like it's a freaking fire circle or something.

WHO ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT WHEN I FLIP? Seriously, anyone, ffs. Preferably the more active players, but god damn anyone can answer at this point.

 

I mean, I'm still suspicious of Moridin, so after you flip Scum I think it'll either be him or Mathblade.

 

And when I flip Town?

 

So I didn't derp? Then how did Sloth have any claim to jailchat? Or was he lying? And why lie about that?

@Riley: I believe you are town. The only solid read I think I have is that one person in jailchat remaining is probably scum and one person out of it is probably scum. It is hard to tell who. I don't think you are derping, so am avoiding the question because I don't have a clue what they are thinking. *sigh*

 

Honestly at this point, I can't wait to see you're reactions to my town flip. I have a sinking suspicion however those who are so gung-ho about my Scumminess are going to blame my derp!playstyle and then move on to other stupid shit because everyone seems content to let three players control the flow of this game.

Those three are:
Titus
Citrus
Zennith.

All three I at one point or another accused of being Scum. Two of which have had an on-going battle to proclaim and prove my "scumminess" and one of which knows better.

Zennith: is Town at this point simply by way of how he's acted and reacted and what his ability is. That plus meta helps me a lot.

Citrus: I still think sleeper scum and I will until I'm proven otherwise due to similarities between this and previous scum game. Posting style has changed somewhat since I mentioned that, probably to hide the fact that I was right or to try and change it so meta is harder for scum and town.

Titus: Continually pushes for a lynch on me, uses the smallest posts neccessary to throw an accusation and then deflects anything I throw. Is in control of town for the most part without anyone really confirming her as town, despite the two votes. I don't really care what would "make sense" becuase this is fucking Mafia and it goes however the mod says.

If the rest of town doesn't focus on one of these three after I flip, I will be extremely disappointed in you all and will have to console myself with harsh words and perhaps a stupid DLP-fic of some kind. If you don't know what that is, don't worry about it.

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By saying Zennith is town, I mean he is basically considered town. Obviously focus on him anyway, but that's my read and when I flip I wanted to be clear on who to look to for help as well as who to hunt for.

 

…wait, before I forget, where the hell is Maiden?

@Titus

Do we? How’s that? We don’t know if anyone (Vig/SK) took a shot at him at Night, and Bulletproof does not protect against lynches.
I’ve asked if being in Jail protects people that haven’t been brought in by Zennith, and no one’s answered. However, logically the answer is no: Zennith is neither protected or roleblocked, and ika was obviously not roleblocked, so he couldn’t be protected either.
Going by previous events too, the watch was clearly the lynch’s ability…it all supports ika being the BP.

I have thoughts on these, are we’re pressed on time so they have to be quick, to the end.

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@Riley

Ok, seriously, what the hell are you doing, Riley?

This is the second time you’ve singled me out to sway and join the Titus, despite,
A) me being one of MANY that think Titus is probably Town, so there’s no reason to focus on me,
B) my clear statements that I don’t think you’re scum,
C) my clear statements that I never fully trust Titus,
D) I haven’t even voted for you.
Oh, and there’s that bit where you keep acting like you’re at L-1, despite the fact that the current strategy I’m pushing requires has us lynching Moridin, shooting Mathblade/Blab, and then lynching me. You’re not even being talked about as a lynch candidate.

Are you being pissy just for the sake of making a scene or are you just not reading the thread?
Oh no, am I doubcasting you now? Then explain to me how what I’m saying is not 100% true, please. Christ.

…????

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@Mathblade
…Oh god, the level of derp in this post. For the record, this is what it looks like to me when someone is trying to derp too much, not what Riley did.

Anyway,

…That was me saying that Zennith, the jailkeeper, hasn’t spoken in the thread in D3 yet. Titus replied telling me he hadn’t spoken in Jailchat either – which I had no access to, hence needed to be told.

I was never in jail chat. The closest I ever was was in #280, where Zennith mentioned he debated bringing me in over Titus. He decided not to.
Zennith can only bring one person at a time: Citrus and ika have clearly stated they’re there from the beginning and never leave.

A) There is the jailchat, and the scumchat. That’s all we know. Apparently you confused the jailchat for a daychat and think there’s more. As far as we know, there isn’t.

Also, B) you you’re to get access because you need it to stay alive? Why do we need YOU alive, over, say, Titus? Survivalist impulse is a scumtell, and you’re not even saying why you should get it other than to see if you believe it when everyone else has explained to you that it’s not possible for it not to be a thing.

…Scum…have a scumchat. They don’t need to talk here to communicate.
I’m sorry, I’m having a hard time believing this one because Titus says you’ve played before. This one doesn’t rely on reading the thread. ANYONE that’s played mafia knows scum are the ones that can communicate. Explain yourself.

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@Citrus catch up and give thoughts, several things were addressed to you.

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Finally, everyone:

This is still the best way to go.
I don’t think we should lynch Mathblade, I think we should have Lee shoot her.
Whoever Lee shoots needs to be the most obvious scum possibility we have, to lessen the chance of them flipping Town (and scum!Lee getting to say he was only following orders if in that scenario). If Mathblade is the most obvious scum (and not sure who else could be), she’s needs to go into the Night so that the Lee can confirm himself as not!Scum.

ToDay we should lynch the second strongest candidate. …At this point I wanna say Riley is that over that freaking ridiculous claim that I was in jail (I can almost buy the newbie that didn’t read too closely saying that, but Riley has been in this game the entire freakin’ time).

But I’m still going with the idea that we need to be looking at Blab or Moridin. Nothing’s specifically made me change my mind.
For the record, Blab’s slippery nature makes me want to vote him more. However, everyone seems to be dismissing him as Town and now is not the time for a vote to make a point.

I’m not to sure on Moridin myself, but going by what Rubicon was saying, a lot of his biggest relevant post in D3 (#1102) was repetition of a lot of things already said, some b myself, possible omissions, and a lot of noncommittal statements. You know, for someone who thinks Lee’s scum, there’s no vote on him. Is it because he’s voting for someone else? Nope.

So in the meantime, Vote: Moridin.

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Thoughts? Feedback? I realize this is a bit late in the Day to propose this, but let's figure it out.

 

Because eventually I will be lynched or killed with the way this is going first of all. I'm not acting L-1, I'm acting like Town who's determined to do my best to help before someone decides to kill me.

I didn't single you out. I responded to a comment you made and gave a comment of my own. That particular "@Sloth" post was in regards to something else, I simply added my own comments. No singling required.

As for the last part....who's Titus and Citrus both looking to Lynch Sloth? Becuase it sure as hell isn't you or Moridin for sure, so obviously I'm a lynch candidate.

I already admitted to my mistake. This is just pointless add-on to fluff your post. Stop it.

 

Yes I have played before once on a board that was pretty much defunct. Other than that it has been non board games in real life games and those are different. So yeah some terms I know others I don't. I generally don't play on boards because people go into deep crazy analysis crap and there's way too much to read to try to figure out rather than being able to see a facial expression or a tick. Like a giveaway in poker. Those are HUGE when playing mafia, and not knowing any of you I am at a disadvantage.

OMG just wow! Seriously...wanting to survive is scummy? That is your reasoning, really?? How about when Titus gunned me since my first post, geez! Staying alive is a requirement to win, town or scum. Since the UnHoly Trinity (not to be confused with Glee) has decided I deserve to die then yeah, staying alive is huge.

Let's face it, a lot of people are gunning for me on little to no evidence of it. Custer and I have the same role yes, but he disappeared. He could have been quiet because of the fact that I don't know, he quit?? I'm trying to help find out who the scum is.

One of people suggesting I die is probably scum and getting the rest to follow along hook line and sinker. Am I more valuable than Titus, no, because you trust her. You don't trust me yet, I'm new I get that. But you should trust me.

If someone has powers heck, scan me. You will see that there is no sinister plot to do anything nefarious. If I really wanted to be scum wouldn't I want to lead a mass revolution to get someone that is a powerful townie dead? I haven't suggested to lynch anyone I have just been posting my votes and sharing suspicions. If I am mafia, which I'm not, I'd really bad at it.

Finally how would you have Lee shoot me? Killing people seems like a mafia action. *sigh* That sentence from Sloth above seems inaccurate on so many levels I just touched the surface.

If I was mafia, which I am NOT, I would lurk around and attempt to hide suspicion or attempt to get everyone to lynch a townie. I'm not even trying to do any of that.

Why would I say "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM Mafia Scum" And wave a big huge sign....

The only result would be this...



OR

<< The forced lynching via microwave, well because there's no lynching gif darn it!

 

I'm not voting Lee because I don't want him dead today. I want him to shoot tonight, if he shoots town+town he gets lynched. I was hoping to gain insight on his alignment based on who he killed last night, but that didn't happen.

As for why I'm not voting anyone else, well, Riley, Zennith and myself are the main wagons being talked about and I'm not sold on any of them, and I was too busy to put together an analysis to determine who'd be best to lynch.

Lucky shooting Mathblade/Blab is something I agree with. Beyond that, I don't think he should be putting down any kills. If both of those are town, then lynch Lucky. If one is scum, re-evaluate accordingly, but Irdium/Riley/Lucky/Sloth is probably the best bet, in that order. If both are scum, well, game should be over - if not, then it's strong enough that proceeding should be easy. Either way, I don't think Lucky should be taking (and thus being financed for) any shots outside of the coming night. Thoughts?

 

Mathblade, read the thread before you accuse Sloth and Luckylee of being groupscum.

I am commuting. Zennith is jailing Citrus. Please doc heal Zennith if you are here.

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Do not shoot blab. We lynch obvscum and vig kill 2 and 3 choices.

 

@Moridin: Why would we lynch lucky if the shots we give him both hit town?