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SPOILERS! Captain America - Winter Soldier review

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Starwind, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Lord Raine

    Lord Raine Disappeared DLP Supporter

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    I'd be happy with a She-Hulk movie. Massive, massive bonus points if it's Betty that becomes She-Hulk, and not Jennifer. Betty's been neglected for a very long time as a character in the comics, and the only reason Jennifer really exists is because somebody had to be She-Hulk. She's basically a Cousin Irving in that regard.

    I've always felt Betty would be more interesting to cast into that roll, particularly because of the dynamic it would create with General Ross, who is typically a very two-dimensional villain. It would provide all three of them with some interesting character development, and might even compel Ross to hunt Banner for more interesting and personal reasons than "he smashes things really good, and I want that." I could really get behind a story where Ross's Captain Ahab routine winds up exposing Betty to something that serves as her catalyst to become She-Hulk, and then he starts chasing Banner for a cure as much as out of a desire to control that sort of power, while Betty is starting to understand what Bruce went through when he became the Hulk, and has to decide what she should do with that power now that she has it, and whether or not she wants to be cured.
     
  2. Invictus

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    I realy like She-Hulk, she is a pretty awesome character, especiially when sej had the Deadpool-like moments (before Deadpool existed) and woud love to see her in a movie, but her as Betty?

    I don't know, Betty isn't a character that has the personaity I associate with She-Hulk, her and Bruce relationship amd interactions would be completely changed (never read anything about Red She-Hulk so I have not even a little idea how) and she wouldn't be able to have her own solo movies, not without Bruce.

    Movies with super-heroines in the main role is something I very much want to see, especially WW and She-Hulk.
     
  3. Red Aviary

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    I've heard the suggestion of a Planet Hulk movie. That might be interesting, though I'd think it'd come a lot further down the line from now.
     
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    The only Hulk movie that would be any good is a buddy flic with Tony and Bruce going around doing super genius shit.
     
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    I always hated how the female equivalent of super heroes had gender opposing/ specific names.
     
  6. Lord Raine

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    Firstly, yes, that's the entire point. Betty doesn't really have a personality, and what personality She-Hulk has is derived from the juxtaposition of a shy and moderately introverted person having a split-personality thrust upon them that is outgoing and highly aggressive. That fights Betty just as well as it does Jennifer, arguably more-so.

    Yes, it would change her interactions with Bruce, and vice-versa, but that's only for the better, because the full extent of all their interactions are basically King Kong-tier damsel in distress situations. Again, Betty is a shallow person in terms of character, and so to a degree is Jennifer, but they cover each others' weakness if folded into the same person, which is the whole idea.

    And yes, she would be able to have movies without Bruce. I don't know why you'd say she wouldn't. What, she suddenly can't star in a She-Hulk movie just because she was introduced in a Hulk movie? What kind of ass-backwards logic are you using to say that she just couldn't be in a movie without Bruce if Bruce was involved with her?
     
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    It's more or less based around Batman, being, well, Batman. And about five hundred thousand other superheroes of various types.

    But then you've got people like Storm, or Phoenix, or Black Canary, or Banshee, who are standing outside of the she-x/x-woman thing. It's not that they're doing it intentionally, it's just easier to call her She-Hulk than it is to come up with an actually original name for her.
     
  8. Lord Raine

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    Plus, Giant Green Tits n'Abs doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
     
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    Saw it today. Without going through four pages, can someone confirm that the Strange mentioned is the Strange?
     
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    It's also marketing, doesn't make it ok, but it makes sense.

    My disinterest in the Hulk movie idea is definitely lessened by Ruffalo's portrayal, but honestly I just don't like Hulk in general and it's not a movie I'd go see. So I'd rather they don't make one

    As to Planet Hulk, I've heard there's already been a pretty firm no on that one.
     
  11. redshell

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    This. I like the character as he's been portrayed so far, but that's simply because we haven't seen him go to the levels we've seen him reach in the comic books.

    Furthermore, we are more or less told that he gets more powerful the angrier he gets, which basically means if you got him angry enough he could kill Galactus with a single punch. Granted, you'd probably have to drop a nuclear fucking bomb on him several times over to get him that mad, but still.

    Anyone who isn't clued in to that who thought Superman was broken? Yeah, okay, we're done here.
     
  12. Lord Raine

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    Of course we aren't sure. There are loads of people in the Marvel universe with the last name 'Strange.' Could be anyone, really.

    Also;
    Then what the fuck are you doing on this forum? If you want inaccurate news and information in two hundred characters or less, we have Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter for that.
     
  13. Schadenfreude

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    Just saw it, and I'm pretty excited about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Having read the rest of the thread, my need to scream happily about Dr Strange being MCU canon now is pretty well deflated. No magic? Quantum Physics? Wow. Actually really disappointed now.

    On another note, did anyone else notice that when the Helicarriers started going through their targeting sequence, they zoomed in on Stark in his tower?
     
  14. Lord Raine

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    There's a tentative chance I may not have to hop a bus to Los Angeles and tastefully re-appropriate somebody's largest organ while getting them fitted for a pair of new concrete shoes. Apparently they're going for a scientist Strange specifically so they can have a man of science doing commentary on the magic.

    Clarke's Third will still be in effect for the movie, but only to a limited degree. There are some things Strange will look at and be able to understand what they are scientifically. Others will just be angels and demons throwing magic lasers at each other and stuff that has no grounding in any science, and he'll just have to take that on faith.

    I'm not happy about this, because the iconic Strange is a doctor of medicine for a very good reason, and it's ridiculously idiotic to completely change Strange's profession just to make him look at things scientifically and rationally, because LITERALLY ANYONE CAN DO THAT, and there's absolutely no reason whatsoever Strange couldn't do that and still be a Neurosurgeon, but at least they aren't killing the magic, yet, so nobody has to pay a blood price.

    Yet.
     
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    All of my ew. Sounds like MoR-tier shit.
     
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    If this succeeds like Sam Jackson's Fury did I bet they'll retcon that Clea and Strange had a son that's now Stephen Strange jr, like they had Fury have a half black son with a perms infinity formula. Look up nick fury jr :p
     
  17. Lord Raine

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    Yes, it will be terrible.

    But at least the magic is actually magic. I can be merely enraged beyond reason, as opposed to being moved to obligatory homicide.

    Unless they fuck up Iron Fist. Then the homicide is back on.
     
  18. Invictus

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    Well, since everything I know important about her is related to her relationship with Bruce, I assume that unless we completely change her from everything sseen before in non-comic midia, it would be hard to do movie unrelated to Bruce. Not saying it can't be done, look at World War Hulk, Hulk without Bruce, and it's incredible. But that was in the comics with backstory. I just think it would need a lot of good writing and hard work to do it, and that's nearly impossible in such side-lined character.

    I saw the World War Hulk comic and I loved it, than I read the comic and loved it even more. A movie would be epic, but we would a lot of foreshadowing in other movies, and it would be hard to mainstream accept Hulk without Bruce.
     
  19. Vincent

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    There's been Hulk without Bruce before. The Mindless Hulk that Strange sent to the Crossroads, Grey Hulk in Vegas, and Professor Hulk probably counts as well. As a Hulk fan I'm not interested in seeing a movie about Hulk side characters when they can't even do a Hulk movie properly yet. Hulk should be treated as his own character and not just as a tool for action scenes. Avengers did it better than the Hulk movie.
     
  20. Ched

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    I can't remember if I saw the 2003 Hulk movie or not, but I hated what they did with the 2008 version.

    It's actually the reason that I skipped all non-Iron Man movies until last month. After the travesty that was the 2008 Hulk movie, I just couldn't muster any desire to watch Thor or Captain America.

    Turns out all the other movies are good. I think my issue with the Hulk movie was largely the actor. He didn't feel at all like Banner to me. The new guy they got for the Avengers nailed it in my head, so I'd love to see another Hulk movie with him in the lead.

    If I got to pick one new addition to the Marvel Universe Movies though... it'd be a Hawkeye movie. Because I've always liked him, and his actor turned out to be good too. I doubt this will happen for a long time though -- too many other characters with more popular appeal and powers to focus on.
     
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