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Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, May 4, 2014.

  1. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    cirtus vote teirrain then you can do that at least. unless if you have a reason to not to?

    titus, cirtus has dones this many many times on irc. And right now you are begining to make me doubt your town status i first gave you.

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    titus, stop, seriously, you said im town end of story. You can agree to disagree with me but right now i want to see cirtus lynched. After that we can get teir.

    Your really startting to make me annoyed again

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    to me cirtus is too confident in me being town from day 1 and going foward. everyone else for the most part was more diversed on it.

    scums will be more confident in reading me as one or the other, and right now how cirtus has been acting is not really that far off from being scum in my eyes.

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    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 11 (10 members and 1 guests)
    ika*, Titus, TerRaine, Sloth, Citrus, Atum, Riley Poole, fontisian

    good god everyone almost here.
     
  2. Titus

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    No, we always but heads as opposing alignment. I haven't played games with Citrus on iirc nor are they reviewable. As such, they are not valid evidence. Put together a Citrus case for me tomorrow when we can all review it. If you die, I will look over Citrus for that. You do the same for Rubi.

    We lynch TerRaine our agreed upon scumread.

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    *nonopposing
     
  3. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    i want to see cirtus move his vote first. I have played games with him and i even refenced you to one (the recently finished fm).

    im going to wait for everyone else to check in and give imput before i decide on anything

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    the fact we vaugly agree on it is the problem im having...

    part of me agrees, but part of me thinks "low hanging fruit"

    so i want to hear everyone imput before i decide as well
     
  4. Citrus

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    We have 5-6 hours left in the day. I'm not jumping the gun on voting her unless I'm comfortable on it. All that solves is further solidify her as one of today's wagons
     
  5. Titus

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    Ika, if this wasn't a fucking deadline that's the right approach. You and I both know that Rubicon will vote to keep the wagon on you equal with TerRaine. So we have to get the wagon on possible scum higher faster. Otherwise we will likely nl or toenlynch.

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    :mad::mad::mad: *backs away ftom keyboard* we did agree on Fuzzy, ika. You know yhe game.

    Lunch time.
     
  6. TerRaine

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    Okay! Back and fueled by 2 hours of sleep and a 2 hour nap....and surprisingly more aware than I was yesterday despite it.



    First to address why I wasn't entirely bothered by Rubi thinking I scumslipped and not bothering to vote for me. Well he never said he didn't think I was a possible scum just not the strongest pick first. From what I've seen Rubi has had suspicions of Ika for awhile now so it would make sense he's go for something he felt more confident in first and use the time to observe my behavior to see if there was more to my post than what appeared. I could be wrong but I don't recall Rubi have a scum read on me before that point.

    Going with Math on the Ika wagon isn't a scumtell coincidence to me...its a strategic town move to join in the the momentum on someone that he has a strong scum feel for. Does he go for what he thinks is a surer bet and has support or for an outlier that he's just starting to get an inkling on. He also went on to explain why he's focused on ika in 873 and point out he is still keeping me in sights in 884.

    I addressed my weak start to Day 2 in 909. So looking back I really didn't dismiss it. He said what I said was a tell....I explained why it wasn't and the reasoning behind it. You're literally the ONLY one harping on it for 4 pages. That THIS is what keeps your attention for pages on end and not the way I garbled 909 is a bit weird to me. I'll address that further down.


    Yes you do if that attitude impedes town on a whole regardless of what they are. You are hardline defending someone who is really making the game a freaking chore. This is a newbie game...you don't draw new players in by putting them in the same room with the spoiled brat (your words) toting a flame thrower. All it does is detract from the game and the abilities of less experienced players.

    In response to part 2 as covered above I replied to it with a defense. If I relieved his suspicions why is he going to waste his and my time and push? And if I didn't maybe he was waiting for me to say something else to hang myself. Look what he claims is a scum tell. Me running my mouth without thinking when there was no pressure. Sometimes NOT pressuring can be just as strategic.

    In simplest terms? Both are active players....but one is actually contributing and hunting and the other is flailing and and throwing a fit. I've gone over my read on Ika a few times and nothing has changed. His plays are still the same and the there has been no shift in behavior. The Seer hunting was one of the biggest tells to me. And also I side with Math on this that I think this game will run smoother and scum hunting will be easier regardless of his alignment. He's adding next to nothing and if anything making it harder for Town to focus.

    Rubicon on the other hand is actively rooting out responses from people with questions that scream scum hunt to me. He's looking for the scum not just covering his ass. I can understand his reads...they're logical and well thought out.



    I'm lazy and I kinda just want to point you back to my read but I won't. From D1 start Lyr was actively asking the best mix of questions out of everyone I thought. She was actively scum hunting and pursuing players...listing suspicions and asking followups on players instead of just letting questionable actions hang there. She was focused on the offensive from the get go.

    Honestly? I'd look into tunneling into a bit more



    ....stop that /glares



    I'm a bit confused on what your asking. Lyrium from what I can see was pretty high up on everyone's read as a sure Town bet. This would make her a target for NK because her death gets rid of 1) an experienced player in a throng of newbies and 2) it doesn't lose scum any of their decoys. They're not going to NK a town players are getting a scum read off of because it narrows the playing field down and makes finding them easier. I felt that they managed to kill of our Seer was a lucky shot because I didn't see anything in game that really IDed Lyr as seer. Maybe there was a tell and I missed it but I don't think the scum pair knew she was seer and targeted her for it. I think they targeted her for being an easy kill with little repercussion for them and just so happened she was seer.


    ....that entire post was a chewed on garbled out mess and I'm a bit embarrassed I made it. -_- There was more to my reasoning I didn't post and then found I didn't have time to add so I figured I'd address it when it came up. Which it did so yay I get to explain myself.

    One of my top reasons for holding back a vote on ika was because as Sloth said Ika would without a doubt self hammer ergo ending the day and depriving the townsfolk of time to scum hunt. Lynching Ika so early in the day hurts Town regardless of the flip because it throws away valuable time to tunnel other players and ask questions. There was nothing to gain from a quick lynch and everything to gain by holding off an using our time effectively. I didn't mean I would rather a mislynch I meant I would rather town use the resources they have (time)to explore other possibilities on top of certainties on Ika. It allowed us to go into D3 more prepared and with more information.

    Ignorance? Sudden flip? I'm sorry can you read? There is nothing sudden or unexplain about Rubicon's flip on Ika. He laid out pretty damn clear in 958. I didn't dismiss anything. I explained the reason I did that and moved on. There was no protown reason at that point in time to think going on the defense was a priority. There was no risk of mislynch for me as of yet and the focus was on pressuring Ika and tunneling others.

    As for lack of content I said I wouldn't be around until today and lo and behold I wasn't around until today. Regular M Night Shyamalan ending right there. Saying you were attacked because I didn't think your post had any merit is just ridiculous.



    /Vote Ika

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    ...I never finished the sentence on who Id focus on tunneling more...so scratch being more aware today -_-

    Typing the end to that up now...
     
  7. Citrus

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    @TerRaine

    Rubicon thought Ika was scum than moved his vote to me as a wagon began on me.

    Opinion please? What do you think of me + Rubicon's interactions with me?
     
  8. ika

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    titus, why are you so bent on not voting cirtus? are you scum? plz dont be scum....

    i was hoping to have you as town. Personally im now leaning more toward no-lynch just to piss you off or force you to swap votes. Its possible scum but not garenteed. Im more posotive on cirtus!scum then teri!scum.

    we can sit here and bitch about it all game. or we could run a 3rd wheel wagon on you? heck if we no-lynch then scums have to decide who to kill yet again and then we can basicly play this game all over again where we all have a pissy fight on whos to lynch

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    we agreed on fuzzy b/c it was entirly how you do your scum game. what about the other one i had to convince you on?

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    and it was too late then
     
  9. Citrus

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    [redacted]
     
  10. ika

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    teir if your going to vote me over my silly gambit i will move my ovte over. im giving you benifit of a doubt right now but you are starting to make me doubt it
     
  11. Citrus

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    Oh part of what I wanted to say is not redacted.

    If we no lynch today we lose a mislynch.
     
  12. Rubicon

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    Players who are the only vote on a person when there are bigger wagons they could be on. Like Citrus could be voting ika and Titus voting TerRaine.

    If ika were scum, do you think he would have interacted with Citrus the way he has? And vice versa.
     
  13. Citrus

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    [redacted]
     
  14. ika

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    cirtus, will you or will you not vote teri? you obviously have enought time and effort to move a vote
     
  15. Citrus

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    So you think it's better if I vote someone just because they're run up regardless of how I read them?

    Vote: Rubicon

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    I'm on comp now give me 15 minutes
     
  16. Rubicon

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    Citrus could you make a post like TerRaine just made that would help your case a lot thank you
     
  17. ika

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    Does this include you? You are postering that yet you have your vote isolate elsewhere.
     
  18. Rubicon

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    oh wow
    /10chars
     
  19. Citrus

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    Oh and you never explained this
     
  20. Rubicon

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    I am pumping my fist in the air right now at this.
     
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