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Naruto Manga Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Jon, Feb 12, 2014.

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  1. Pasta Sentient

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    Ya know; this is slightly off topic, but I think practically everyone in this thread has thought more about the plot/story of Naruto than kishimito himself.

    The last time I enjoyed Narutos character was the pein fight. For Sasuke it was the Danzou battle...

    I've had a plot bunny but no time to write; Sasuke time travel fic. He starts out with the desire to be Hokage in his younger body...
     
  2. Vincent

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    Just as long as it has some Sasuke in the character I'd probably read it. I hate reading Sasuke stories when the character is ultra nice guy or where he's acting like Naruto is the greatest thing to walk the Earth. As Sasuke he should be the one guy not furiously wanking Naruto.
     
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    You've said a lot of stupid shit since you joined, dude, but this one takes the cake. Congratulations. You're actully more stupid tham I thought you were.
     
  5. Darth Disaster

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    I had a plotbunny too.

    Where Naruto goes back in time, and STABS SASUKE IN THE FACE as soon as he gets the Sharingan. So he can then send them to the much more awesome Itachi, who he then convinces to seek treatment from Tsunade.

    Bam, Uchiha problems solved. A healthy, EMS Itachi would be a far better ally than a Healthy, EMS Sasuke.
     
  6. stormfury

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    Except then Itachi would spend the entire rest of the story trying to kill Naruto, because the only person (not value/ideal/Konoha, etc.) he actually cares about is his brother.
     
  7. Vincent

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    Not to mention that Naruto would probably be arrested or become a missing ninja. Why would Tsunade do anything for this kid who murders his teammates? Causes more problems than it solves.
     
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  8. Darth Disaster

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    Meh, of course he'd wait till he could get away with it. Some time when Sasuke was off alone being his usual angsty, broody self. Create a Shadow Clone in Sage Mode then have it henge into a tiger or something and claw his throat open.

    At that point, all anyone thinks is that it was an unfortunate accident with an escaped creature from the Forest of Death.

    And of course, he'd send the eyes anonymously. Not announce 'oh, btw, I harvested your brothers eyes so you can use them in a freaky way to save yourself from blindness thus casting suspicion on me for his death'.

    Or maybe, when Haku kicks Sasuke's ass in the Ice Dome of Doom, just wiggle the senbon a bit so he actually dies after kicking Haku's ass. No-one is there to see what happens, after all. What with the obscuring mist.
     
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  9. VanRopen

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    Not sure Naruto has the balls to murder someone while they are in the process of sacrificing their life for him.
     
  10. Pasta Sentient

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    Sheesh...I was using hyperbole/sarcasm. My apologies that it did not translate well. Either way, I see the world through a different view than you do obviously. Doesn't mean I'm stupid.

    Anyways, yeah. It wouldn't have been a good Sasuke fic. Konoha would basically become a lot similar to Danzous ideals..
     
  11. Vincent

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    Except you know Sasuke's much stronger than the tigers in the FoD and everyone in Konoha isn't retarded. Also Haku wouldn't get the chance to take Sasuke down like that unless he jumps in to protect Naruto. Unlikely to happen with a time traveling Naruto. Then there's the fact that you have people like Kakashi around who have extreme senses of smell who'd probably smell Naruto's scent in the area if he attacks Sasuke.

    All in all Naruto murdering Sasuke is completely unnecessary for a time traveler who went back that far. Stop Sasuke from getting the cursed seal and stop Hiruzen from dying. Boom. Problem solved. Itachi doesn't come back to Konoha, and Sasuke continues on team 7 indefinitely.


    Seeing Sasuke trying to become Hokage is less entertaining than seeing him screwing things up in general.
     
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    How can you hate Sasuke and then want Naruto to become such an utter cunt?
     
  13. Darth Disaster

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    @VanRopen That's what fanfiction is for. Exploring ideas and stories and things that wouldn't ever happen in canon, by altering details enough to make it within the realm of suspension of disbelief.

    @Vincent Unless he's taken by surprise? Tigers are Stealth Predators. He can't be on guard all the time, and everyone knows he's arrogant enough to think he's untouchable. There would be suspicions foul play, but in no way would anyone ever think that the Dead Last Uzumaki Naruto would have the skill or inclination to take down Sasuke and leave behind no evidence of his presence.

    It's probably much more likely that most folks would think it was Itachi, since his not-a-traitor status is Top Secret.

    Besides, I was thinking 'younger body inhabiting' time traveling Naruto, not Adult Naruto goes to the past. That way he could play it out like it goes on normally, and take advantage of the way things happen originally at just the right moment.

    Because I think Sasuke deserves to die. Not just die, but die an empty, painful death that leaves him filled with regret even as he takes his last breath. That simple. He's a disloyal, angsty, emo, superior, cocky, cold, arrogant, insulting fuckwad who doesn't deserve any of the shit he has. He's evil, pure and simple, and I think Karma should be the bitch it is when it pays him back.

    Ninjas are killers. It's part of the job description. I've always preferred a more Seinen approach to the Narutoverse, as opposed to Shounen, which is where this 'super pure of heart sinless ninja jesus' bullcrap comes from. As a Ninja, I prefer to ideate Naruto as something close to his canon self, but willing to spill blood and take drastic measures even against enemies who aren't 'complete and total monsters' like Kakuzu.

    Honestly, the entire 'plotbunny' was just someshit I made up off the top of my head, not something I'd ever actually write out or put any serious thought into, because 'Hokage Sasuke' is even more retarded than what I made up, but the reactions were certainly amusing.
     
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  14. Aerylife

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    So when Naruto has an angst fit when his teacher dies, A Ok. But if Sasuke goes psychopath murderer over his family being rekt, he's an emo fag. Am I understanding this right, WD?
     
  15. Darth Disaster

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    Lots of people have their family die in the Narutoverse. In fact, it's not that uncommon. Terrible, horrid stories of pain and loss and suffering are not rare. They don't all become like Sasuke does.

    Also, yes. That's right. An Angst Fit is not becoming a vicious, traitorous, cold, amoral cockbag. Anyone with a heart would have emotional turbulence when one of the very few people close to them were killed far away from home. You cannot equate a short period of time being angry and in pain to embracing the path of murderous psychopath. ESPECIALLY because Naruto does not, in fact, kill Pein.

    Sasuke never lets it go, sasuke constantly wraps himself in his angst and his pain, he uses them as an excuse for every asshole thing he does and never feels a whit of guilt over it that we're shown. 'Oh, I get a special exception from not being a worthless piece of Traitor Trash because my life has tragedy in it! Woe is me! The world is dark and cruel, so I'm allowed to be a massive douchebag that no-one can trust for any reason'.

    Naruto and Co. specifically offer and try to give Sasuke companionship and closeness and bonds, so that he isn't lost in his darkness and hate and pain. He refuses them all, chooses his revenge, and decides, even if for a short period of time, that the best way to achieve that is to KILL the person he feels closest too, all because his insane-ass mass-murdering brother told him to. What a fantastic display of decision making, Sasuke.

    I didn't mind Sasuke so much during Arc One of the series, he annoyed me with his attitude, but I understood him, and even could admit to myself that he could be pretty damn badass. When he made the resolution that he 'never wanted to see his precious people die in front of him again', I was even cheering for him.

    Then he pulls the biggest Asswipe Move of the century with his traitorhood, and I lost all fucks and all cares. Because it's made very clear in the series that Sasuke was levelheaded and sane enough that he could have chosen to embrace the bonds and companionship that were offered, but he specifically decides to betray them instead. He chooses to follow the same path his brother did. To become a Traitor. Making him, also, a massive fucking hypocrite.

    If he was just fucking nuts from the start, I'd have much less vitriol in my hate for him.
     
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  16. Vincent

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    And ninja are trained specifically to detect and avoid ambushes and ninja ambush better than giant tigers. A tiger's not going to be stealthy enough to sneak up on a half way competent ninja. Those things are jokes. Also kid Sasuke is not arrogant enough to think he's untouchable. That's Naruto. Sasuke realized that he could not defeat a jounin unless he had the element of surprise. Sasuke realized that their only chance at surviving Orochimaru was to give him what he wanted while Naruto thought fighting was a good idea. Sasuke's arrogance was mainly directed at his peers who has was superior to for the most part and not at the world in general. There's also no reason why a tiger would remove his eyes so cutting his throat as a means of death makes no sense.

    What most folks think is irrelevant. The Hokage knows. That alone is enough to have a full investigation with Inuzuka. Naruto doesn't know how to hide scent as far as I know. Taking Sasuke's eyes will leave a trail.

    I was also thinking that. Still skill is skill. Kid Naruto would have enough skill to avoid being taken down by Haku. He's going to allow Haku to basically throw needles into him? Since he's allowing it to happen what makes him think the exact same thing will go down? Maybe he'll be put into a near death state like Zabuza and be out of it. Maybe that'll result in Kakashi being double teamed by Haku and Zabuza. I hardly think he'll risk his entire team's life by letting Haku land attacks on him.
    Eh? Him becoming a traitor isn't him deciding to follow the same path as Itachi. That's like saying becoming a ninja is following the same path. To Sasuke, Itachi's path was killing those closest to him for power. Thus when he decided not to kill Naruto at the VotE he did so specifically with the intent to not follow Itachi's path.

    Also it can hardly be called karma if you kill someone in the past before they do something wrong. That's not justice. Especially when there are other means to accomplish the same goals without murder and betrayal.
     
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  17. Crimson13

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    In Sasuke's defense after a while you'd want to kill Naruto too, regardless of being crazy. Because after...4 years(?) of dealing with him, telling him 'I don't want to come back' and him being told 'Too bad' and finally after shoving an electric-coated arm through his chest after trying to leave Naruto still didn't get the point? There's trying to help a friend and bullheadedly forcing yourself on someone's life way after they said no AND tried to kill you multiple times. Is Sasuke an asshole? Yes. Is Naruto retarded? Hell yes.

    And personally? Considering the bonds of friendship were between Naruto and Sakura I don't blame the guy for leaving as fast as he could. Because while I like the setting, the powers, and some of the characters I find myself hating alot of the main cast. Especially Naruto, because holy shit is he the shitty Shonen protagonist with the whole 'You're always right'-dumb-as-Hell-Messiah trope. Running to the creepy snake guy who said that he wanted your body was probably a vacation for the guy.
     
  18. Amoral Philosopher

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    I'm just waiting for the first page of the next chapter to come out and have Sasuke laugh, admiting he was just fuckin with everyone by making them think he was going back to being a murderous bastard, and decide to go home. Sasuke Uchiha, the ultimate troll...
     
  19. Darth Disaster

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    LOL.

    Saw this today, laughed for three minutes.
     
  20. Aerylife

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    The brotacular adventures of Uchiha Sasuke/Uzumaki Naruto.

    One's an idiot with a messiah complex and copious amounts of ADD,
    The other someone whose loyalty/goals flip more than Orochimaru's sexuality.

    Together they fight crime, crazy alien moms, evil tree's and fangirls.
     
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