Wow.... just wow.

 

Actually, Jesus was born in Nazareth, Israel and (despite certain sporting bodies being informed otherwise), Israel is not part of Europe.

Also, I distinctly remember very clear anti-homosexuality messages from the Bible as my old R.E teacher spent a whole lesson analysing them :/

 

Lol, MS, Jesus was actually born in Bethlehem...Mary and Joseph were from Nazerareth, but they had to travel to Bethlehem to pay their taxes and the J-man was born while they were there...

Anyway, there are a few things in this thread that I feel the need to reply to.

Firstly, to the crazy girl who abandoned a perfectly innocent pastime of fanfiction for God: fanfiction and God are not mutually exclusive.

Secondly, the Trinity: Jesus was not actually the Son of God, thats just a way that it is translated to help people understand his divinity. He was infact, in the original Greek, the logos, which means word, or communication.

He is one of the three facets of God made incarnate, calling him a Son is very inaccurate as it implies hierarchy, and you cannot have heirarchy within the same being or that constitutes polytheism. If you take a look at John Chapter 1 this is made clearer than how I put it:

Thirdly and finally: I believe it was Gio who said that Christians fail at their faith, and he is exactly right. The point of Christianity is that this doesn't matter: it is by grace and faith and not by works that you get into heaven.

Sorry if I was a bit preacherish, but understanding is the key to tolerance, and I hope I have furthered your understanding a little.

EDIT: As for homosexuality, the bible only mentions it 3 times I believe. Even if it does say that it is wrong, it obviously isn't exactly on the top of the list of things that God wants to convey to people.

EDIT 2:

Technically, this means that you believe in god, not God. In the English language, God with a capital "G" only refers to the God of the three Judaic religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

 

Wow, just wow

Well looking at her grammer and spelling its easy to see that she was a prime candidate for brainwashing.

Even after being away for a while DLP never disapoints.

 

Well, I don't know whether it's a question of different translation of not, but I distinctly remember that, right after Jesus is baptized, the sky opens and a voice says, "He is my beloved son." (I'm translating from memory; the original words are "Celui-ci est mon Fils bien-aimé.") Then there are all those times Jesus himself calls God his Father.

Last, surprisingly enough there is no contradiction when you say Jesus is the son of God and when you believe in the Trinity. I am not able to exactly quote the Bible, as you all seem to be (I'm very impressed, btw), but I remember that when the apostle Philip asks Jesus to show them the Father, he answers, "Anyone who sees me sees the Father" (again, translation from memory). I'm not pretending I understand what all this means, but then that's why it's called a great mystery in the Catholic Faith. So I'm accepting it.

Mmmh, one of the things I was taught about God is that He is infinitely merciful. Saint Paul used to persecute Christians, and Saint Pierre denied he knew Christ three times. So... yes, maybe we fail, but we keep trying!

I wouldn't know about American Christians--they are mostly Protestants, aren't they? But I know a whole bunch of European Catholics, and to me they don't look like they fail at life.

That's often true, sadly. Not always, though.

 

The direct words from the bible in greek are: "su ei ho nios mon ho agapetos" (well, that's written as close to phonetic as I can think of). Literally translated, it means 'You are my son, the beloved'.

I'm not sure if there's unicode support here, but here's the greek anyways:

Code:

συ ει ό νιος μον ό αγαπητος.

 

We are about 50/50 nowdays.

 

I believe there's a God somewhere (capital G), but I don't exactly have an established faith. I don't go to church on Sundays, but I do go on Christmas Day.

The Prime Minister is "Christian and Missionary Alliance", according to Wikipedia. I've never heard of that religion before, but he's so much of a saint, he doesn't hug his kids - he shakes their hands.

He might even ask for a vote at the dinner table. Who knows?

 

I was only pointing out that your correction was faulty. I favor a forgiving God myself, I don't think he would deny access to heaven or want harm to come to them. While on the cross (a very long and painful way to die) Jesus actually asked God to forgive his tormentors. If you can forgive somebody for a good twelve hours of torture culminating in your death, I rather think you could forgive a little backdoor lovin... After all isn't the Christian vision of God one of love and forgiveness?

 

Actually, you will probably interested to know that the Roman Catholic Church does not condemn homosexuality as a sin.

Their official stance is that homosexuality, or the love of a member of the same sex, is a form of love, and love should never be discouraged.

What they do say is wrong is if you were to act on this love and have a physical relationship with the person.

Just thought I would chuck that in there.

Anyway, I just saw this and think it rather appropriate:

 

:lol:

nice picture

 

www.biblegateway.com

We're not quite as devoted as you may think...

 

Meh. Personally I believe in a god but i personally believe that if Christianity is the right religion then I am eternally screwed. After all if you spray, using hairspray, a pentagram on the doors of a church and light it up to piss them off, especially if it is one of the church doors with a cross on it, you'd think God would get somewhat pissed at you...