So, I decided to take a look on Youtube, just typing in various words looking for a new type of music or new band out there, and I came across this.

It sounds like a mix between dirty vocal blackmetal, eighties harmonies and guitars, with a tad bit of marilyn mansion/industrial metal tossed in here and there.

Three singers sharing parts - a female, a male clean vocal, a male growl vocal.

The woman has a very good voice, the guy has a pretty good one as well, and their harmonies sound good. They also vary the clean and growl vocals very well, also varying the harder thrash feel with the deeper industrial and every once in a while, almost a pop sound showing through.

I don't know how, but it works. I just downloaded the latest album and actually like it.

 

Meh. It's pretty vanilla -core blast beat infused riffs, with decent female vox. I think it'd be better if the harsh vocals really were black metal rasps instead of uninspired, distorted 2005, Meshuggah influenced metalcore shouts.

 

It's okay. Some of the rifs are pretty sick. I personally feel like it would sound better without the death metal vocals. Some guttural screamo would probably work better. It serves the same purpose, just at a higher octave and a little cleaner.

 

What I linked was actually from their first album (if I remember right). Like most things, it grows up over their next two albums.

 

What's your opinion on actual black metal, Scrubb? (not trying to be a douche with the "Real" shit. I like to think I left that kind of metal elitism shit back in my late teens where it belongs).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh9OJOx48GE

 

Used to be, in the good old days, black metal was just (far) cheaper production death metal with harsher vocals and more downtuned guitars, but as long as you said naughty stuff about god, you were okay. Then Dead killed himself with a sawed off shotgun and a suicide note of "excuse all the blood." (and Euronymous put him in a pose and took pictures of his splattered brains because kvlt and used the picture on a bootleg live album called Dawn of the Black HEarts, killer fuckin live record, by the way), then Varg ended up killing Euronymous, burned a few churches, went to jail, and then we had violins and actual production values in black metal, the horror (You just gotta watch the link I posted above to know i'm just kidding about it being a bad evolution).

I've lost track of distinctions these days.

Also, I've just realized that DLP is probably the only forum I've been to that doesn't have a generic, "what are you jamming to," right now thread.

 

Nope. Nopenopenope. This is pop with extremely formulaic "metal" structuring that is so unsubtly manufactured to pander to the popular aspects of the casual metal/rock listener that it just sucks all the life and joy out of the listening experience.

The female lead Elize Ryd did a fine job as a guest vocalist for Kamelot on the Silverthorn album but I've not been able to get past the first few songs from their debut self-titled album. Too sugary and too much of a "produced/manufactured" sound to the album.

Edit: Want melodic/symphonic death metal? Check Fleshgod Apocalypse's "Labyrinth" and "Agony" records Septicflesh's "The Great Mass" album. For female fronted metal bands I'm fairly sure there was a thread elsewhere which covered the various good bands out there.

 

I got a chuckle out of that.

My mainstays in highschool were Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Megadeth.

No, this is definitely not true black metal. When I think of Black Metal, I think of Slayer, Venom, the Possessed. As for my thoughts on it, it just depends. I was a Christian back then as well, and back then a lot of that was (although for show e.g. Slayer) pretty much directed against my faith. So I wasn't too happy with that. However, I did listen to some things—mainly what I listed above . . . Slayer, Venom, the Possessed. I also liked King Diamond But in truth, I was more into Megadeth and Metallica, with a little Queensryche and Sammy Hagar thrown in.

There was a Christian Black Metal band back then (yeah, I laugh even typing that) called Vengeance Rising that I loved back then. Of course, part of that was that it was virtually impossible to find heavier music where the people professed my faith. Later came a band called Believer that I've heard many, Christian and Nonchristian really extoll because they were pretty talented.

Now-a-days, I've calmed down quite a bit, usually listening to something like this or this (last one 's pretty damn talented—singer's now with Iced Earth, but he sounded a whole lot better here).


--Oh, how could I forget Metal Church?

 

Well, I wouldn't call Slayer, Venom, or Possessed black metal, influences certainly, but those are all pure Thrash. Hell, Possessed are the godfathers of death metal. Black Metal didn't really start to get legs independent of those thrash and speed roots until the 90s with Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Emperor, and Enslaved. Takes more than a love of tremolo picking, angry lyrics, and downtuned guitars to be black metal.

If we're talking about classic black metal from that period:

Ulver - Hymn I: Of Wolf and Fear
Mayhem - Freezing Moon /w Dead before he gacked himself. Perfect
Emperor - Inno a Satana
Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon
Gorgoroth - Ritual

And, fuck yeah Metal Church. I still remember how grounded I was when my mom saw the fat valkyrie titty-spike album art of Hanging in the Balance

 

Dark Tranquillity ya'll!

 

When i was in school, thrash metal was more a general designation, with bands like Exodus, Anthrax, etc. falling into it. Back then black metal was more a designation of devil-metal, and death metal was about the same, only it also encompassed bands that sounded like slayer but didnt have the "Satan is cool" angle.

in fact, thrash metal was still somewhat identified with its strain of punk roots. it'd make sense tjät all those things would split into their own subgenres a little later on, but e were calling all that black metal.

Oh, I lied. How could I forget Ozzy and Dio? Of course, there was aso a German band called Helloween... lmao.

Do you remember Grim Reaper? I cant think of them without remembering the later Beavis and Butthead video segment ripping on. I still laugh at the mempry.

 

Man, Helloween is one of my favorite power metal acts. I've only heard Grim Reaper's debut album, and it was pretty fun.

 

Burzum is the best. When it comes to black metal, you just can't go past the great Norwegian racist/arsonist/murderer. Seriously, though, I do like Varg's music.

Dunkelheit, Det Som Engang Var, and Jesu Død are a few good tracks just off the top of my head.

A few other metal bands I listen to include Emperor, Nokturnal Mortum, Arkona, Týr, Godkiller, and Hate Forest.

My favourite genre of music is probably classical, followed by rock, and this sort of stuff. Martial-industrial is alright, too, especially as background music while playing Hearts of Iron games. Note that I don't necessarily share the political views of bands whose music I like.

 

Speaking of Grim Reaper and Beavis . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Py8hHFrYU

"Is this Spinal Tap?"

 

This band has been popping up on my various pandora stations a lot recently. Honestly, they're pretty forgettable. Before I typed this out, I listened to Hunger, The Nexus, Amaranthe, and Burn with Me specifically.

Female Vox - decent, but sort of underwhelming. There's no power in her voice really, and she could probably fit in any number of random, generic bands. The passion didn't really seem to be there.

Male Vox - I hate the harsh stuff here. Sounds like so many generic 'hardcore' bands these days. Background male vocals are too high, a bit emo in my opinion. Again, no real power in them, so they kind of stand out, mostly as being outright bad.

Instrumentals. Pretty good rhythm, actually sounds a bit like last decades In Flames. Solid work.

I don't dislike them, and would certainly listen to them if I was looking for something a little heavier than the normal epica/within temptation/nightwish stuff, but not as heavy as Arch Enemy (who are sort of the benchmark, whether or not you actually consider them good or not). Personally, a band like Xandria seems almost like a direct upgrade to Amaranthe - powerful female lead, backing male vocals (though admittedly, they're not usually guttural), strong electric guitars and heavy blast beats.

 

Teaching the intricacies of pasta cooking whilst drumming and on baby duty is serious business. The background music for the tutorial kills me every time.