Its just messed up. First he makes him suffer 11 years of abuse under the Dursleys. The guy is not Harry's parent he had no right to place him under the Dursleys. The Ministry would have found a far better family to take care of Harry. Next he lets Snape abuse him at Hogwarts. Dumbledore lets one of his staff abuse a child in his school. He doesn't protect Harry in his various years of school. Harry had to fight Quirell, Basilisk and Riddlecrux, Dementors, Crazy tournament, Umbridge. Dumbledore still sends him to the Dursleys every summer. He doesn't train Harry. Thats the most stupid thing he did. He uses him as bait in the tournament. And then he gives Harry the task of killing Voldemort and Horcruxes knowing he has only 6 years of Hogwarts education. He even manipulates Harry to take a killing curse from Voldemort. What Dumbledore did to Harry is pretty much pure evil. Dumbledore is not a good guy in my book. Next Malfoy. Even though he is a Death Eater he dies to save him and make Harry's task even harder. Him dying made the Death Eaters take over Hogwarts and how many students had to suffer from being subjected to Death Eaters. Hell he showed more concern towards Malfoy than he ever did to Harry. Fuck Dumbledore.

 

Alexx, have you ever actually read the HP books, and not just fanfiction?

 

Alexx, what you just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

I stopped reading at "11 years". JKR has better math than you.

tldr: dude wat

 

Leaving aside the whole manipulative/evil/stupid Dumbledore wordvomit...

You realise that Dumbledore was dying during HBP, and that would have happened regardless of how he dealt with Malfoy?

 

He is Dumbledore. Do you really think he couldn't save himself?

 

Yes. There's this thing called canon, and...

 

Do you mean to imply that Dumbledore is the only smart person in Canon? Did you forget who cast the curse? Did you forget about those mentions in canon where certain effects of Dark Magic are incurable?

I repeat what I asked before, have you actually read the books? Your theories are not new in any sense of the word. They've been hashed out by fanfics quite often. However, they are not canon.

 

Except Dumbledore is not smart but a genius and has many influential friends. I'm sure he could have saved himself. Leaving that aside he wasn't going to die instantly. He choose to die to save Malfoy a Death Eater. While his students had to face Death Eaters that night he died when he could have saved them and taken out dangerous Death Eaters like Bellatrix, Greyback. He could have delayed Voldemort take over and prepared the Ministry, the Order and Hogwarts not to fall to Voldemort.

 

Did you forget that Voldemort is a Genius too? Why is it that you completely ignore that the person who cast the curse might actually know what he was doing? Why do you assume that Voldemort would cast something that was curable? Does that sound like Voldemort to you?

What does having influential friends have to do with it? Telling someone would likely reveal the story and have Voldemort find out that Dumbledore knows about his Horcruxes.

Think, before you jump to conclusions.

 

Voldemort is a genius but not the only one. By influential friend I meant he knew people people like Flamel, Grindlewald. Its not hard to think he has more friends who are geniuses like them who he could have worked with and found a cure. And you completely ignored my second point.

Whats Dumbledore's excuse here? How is this not stupid?

 

It is in fact you who missed the point. Did you miss the part where I stated that getting external help could lead to Voldemort finding out Dumbledore's knowledge about Horcruxes?

Grindelwald is a perfect example of why it wouldn't be sensible to get external help. Voldemort got access to Grindelwald in canon. That means, there was a chance of Voldemort figuring out that Dumbledore knew about the Horcruxes.

The entire point of the secrecy behind the Horcrux hunt was to avoid Voldemort figuring it out until the last moment. You're just ignoring that.

 

Hermione, Ron and Harry knew about the Horcruxes and they have no Occlumency skills. Voldemort or any Death Eater with Legilemency could have easily found about it if they were worried about. Dumbledore is smart enough to hide a research for a cure from Voldemort. A fidelius with himself as secret keeper could have worked.You're underestimating Dumbledore too much here.

 

Yes, the first suspects for the people who would know the darkest secrets of Voldemort are three kids who haven't even graduated, and whom Voldemort doesn't really consider a real threat.

EDIT: Oh, and legilimency is as common as Death Eaters are, of course.

Also, right, a fidelius with himself as secret keeper. Why didn't anybody think of that before?

 

Volemort doesn't consider Harry a threat? Thats just stupid. Lets forget his annual kill Harry plans. He is Voldemort's no 1 target. He knows how close Harry and Dumbledore are. So he would suspect Harry of knowing about him from Dumbledore. Infact in DH there was bounty on Harry and his friends.

Draco Malfoy knows Occlumency. It isn't far of to think the more experienced Death Eaters know both it ad Legilemency. As for the Fidelius its a legitimate point.

 

Let's see how many times Voldemort actually tried to kill Harry as a PRIMARY goal, shall we?

1 year old - YES
Hogwarts:
1st year - NO (primary target was the philospher's stone)
2nd year - NO (it was a horcrux, unplanned by Voldemort)
3rd year - NO
4th year - NO (primary target was the blood)
5th year - NO (primary target was the Prophecy)
6th year - NO (target was Dumbedore)
7th year - NO until the very end when he figures out the Harry's knowledge of the Horcrux.

So, what were you saying again?

 

You have been reading way too much bad fanfiction, Alexx. You're talking like Dumbledore was this omniscient infallible god and he just.... wasn't. He was a brilliant man, inherently wise, and probably the most powerful wizard of his time with the exception of Voldemort, but that's all.

Mortal men make mistakes. Mortal men stumble in the face of overwhelming odds.

I'm no longer sure whether you're gunning for HoS or just simply a moron (not technically mutually exclusive, I suppose), but in regards to this tide of new shitthreads, I think I can say, from all of us:

Calm your fucking tits.

 

Do take into account how and why he came to know Occlumency, and also that Occlumency is not the same as Legilimency.

 

Bellatrix.
Funny how I didn't remember seeing her at the castle. Was it before or after she reduced the Burrow to ashes?

You do know Flamel died long before book 6, right?
Oh, right, I was forgetting that Dumbledore was just lying to Harry because he's Evul.:facepalm

And technically, Dumbledore did ask a genius about the curse in the ring. Snape has been labelled as extremely knowledgeable about the Dark Arts since Book One. But I guess you'd have rather asked help from the Dark Wizard who killed/caused the death of your sister.

 

In 1st year he tried to kill Harry via knocking him of the broom.
4th year his goal was also to kill Harry same as 5th year. 7th year he puts out a bounty on Harry. My point of Voldemort suspecting Harry to know maybe not about Horcruxes but other secrets like the prophecy still stands. So he would definitely legilimence Harry the first chance he got.

If the sorting hat can do Legilimency why can't experienced Death Eaters?

And how does that explain his treatment of Harry? Why couldn't he give him a good upbringing? Why couldn't he protect him from Snape's abuse? Why did he did let a Death Eater like Malfoy run around his school to save him? Remember what Malfoy did he nearly killed Katie, Ron and imperioused Rosmerta. These are legitimate points not about fanfiction. He could easily done different to this all.