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A possible plot idea

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Vendo, Nov 4, 2006.

  1. Vendo

    Vendo Fourth Year

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    I just came from a book store where i picked up a D&D book going in depth into undead characters, monsters, spells, grafts, and such. While reading i stumbled onto the lich, now ive read some pretty out there things in HP fanfiction. Demon!harry, nonhuman!harry, dementor!harry, etc, but i only found 1 lich!harry, and it was only 2 chapters of length (for those wanting to read it, a link will be provided at the end)

    i'd like to see more lich!harry stories. where he becomes fed up with not having enough power/experience to defeat voldemort and delves into the dark and arcane aspects of magic and stumbles upon the ritual to become a lich.

    A lich as you may or may not know is a person that rips his soul out of his body and places it into a gem called a phylactery. lichs generaly practice black magic and necromancy.

    i hope my idea at leasts spawns a few lich!harry stories, as i cannot write to save my life.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3136820/1/ (lich story)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich (background info on lichs)
     
  2. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Eh, I was going to write a Lich!Harry story for the contest, but alas, i never got around to it. I even had the list of spell's he'd be capable of, and I translated some of them into latin. :p

    Needless to say, the Harry in the story was going to go for some major pwnage on all sides of the war. Although, I didn't have him choosing to be a Lich, it had an interesting story as to how he ended up in his predicament. T'was going to include Daphne. <_< Which would have made it wtfpwnage.
     
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  3. Vendo

    Vendo Fourth Year

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    wait...theres a contest?!

    awww i feel all dumb now...i thought it was still a 'fresh' idea...oh well, if anyone can write a story with harry as a lich, or link me some stories with him as a lich, or necromancer that'd be awesome as those are some of my favs.
     
  4. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Er, yeah.

    http://forums.darklordpotter.net/forumdisplay.php?f=39

    No Lich rules or anything, it's just an idea i picked up a few years ago, but not many people are willing to touch it though. I'd like to write it, but between the three stories I have now I don't think i'll have much time. :s

    By the way, get your ass over to Introduction and introduce yourself. :)
     
  5. bloodmage

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    This idea sounds intriguing, if done properly it will be very good.

    Nice ava surrarin.
     
  6. the-caitiff

    the-caitiff Death Eater

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    No shit that's major pwnage. I don't know why you're mixing arcane and divine spells, but oh well. My latest endeavor "HP & the master of past and present" has Harry learning D&D magic from Raistlin (since Dragonlance was a D&D campaign before Weiss wrote it down) but I strongly doubt he'll conquer 9th level spells for years. Raistlin used Shapechange (great wrym red dragon) and Gate (summoned a Balor and kicked Death Eater arse) in the last chapter but I have no plans on giving them to Harry anytime before Volde kicks it.

    Come on... Gate, Dragon Strike, Shapechange, Genesis, Fire Storm, Animus Blizzard? Have you ever played a serious campaign where some one had access to those spells? Nothing in HP would survive two minutes when Harry decided to kill them. And I mean from when the thought entered his mind, not from when he's knocking on the front door.

    In my story, HP magic and D&D magic are pretty similar really. Slay Living or Finger of Death equates to AK, Teleport and Apperation, Patronus and Mordenkainen's Faithful Watchdog. The need for components or wands make them appear different to the ministry's underage magic sensors (similar to a magical creature not wand magic).

    I figure that the average witch or wizard is approximately 9-10th level (5th level spells) after hogwarts. I figure this because in HP canon most adults able to apperate but not cast a patronus (both 5th level spells). Harry is demonstrably more powerful than average but I won't have him learning the upper level spells for a while. Currently he's mucking about with 3-4th level and only learning a few per week.

    The fact that Raistlin is growing a Clone of Harry so he has a seperate body to inhabit will be a fun plot point later. I figure since Raistlin has only ever inhabited Harry's body in this reality (alternate prime material planes) the fine print of the Clone spell works both ways.
     
  7. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Honestly? I just felt like it. I -should- point out that i wasn't going to end up using all of them, since that'd be way too much overkill.

    o_O I must read this latest chapter.

    Looking back, Genesis, ShapeChange, and Firestorm would be pointless. Animus Blizzard would be used to get the usual legion of undead fiends, and Dragon Strike just because Mass Dragon Breath is rape. Gate, because Yeah, Gate just rocks.

    I see.


    I really need to read your story, as for the story that i was going to write, It wasn't going to be a nice Harry happy happy fun save the world using Non-lethal force. It was going to be Harry > All Living things, because of the certain scenario's which caused the entire Lich manifestation. having only a few mass killing spell's wouldn't have been fun for most people to read, thus the more-then-a-few Doomspells.
     
  8. Vendo

    Vendo Fourth Year

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    I actually read your story before coming here, I liked the way you wrote the battle scene and had Snape begging for his life...oh it was magical (excuse the pun).

    Seriously though, there is a lack of harry!lich stories, and im thinking about putting up a challenge but I dont have enough idea's besides Harry actually finding the lich ritual or however the auther deicide to get harry to becocme said lich.
     
  9. Mr. Merriman

    Mr. Merriman Groundskeeper

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    Does anyone else realize that as of HPB, Voldemort is essentially a lich? He is a dark wizard of great power given an imperfect form of immortality by severing pieces of his soul and imbuing them into inanimate objects. The only real difference is that he has multiple phylacteries (horcruxes), and there has been no mention, overt or implied, that he qualifies as undead. Therefore, not only are liches already present and somewhat defined in the canon Potterverse, but the main antagonist is in fact a member of the club.

    So, making Harry a lich would simply put him on a level on par with Voldemort . . . corrupted by Dark Magic, limited immortality, and an affinity for Dark Creatures. Since it isn't stated that Voldemort gained any special magical abilities or knowledge in the process of "liching" himself, Harry wouldn't really become a magical powerhouse, especially since, according to a prophecy already in effect and going by the most obvious and prevalent interpretation in fanon, he is already Voldemort's equal in raw magical power, and cannot exceed this until Voldemort is dead.
     
  10. Jon

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    ..Yeah that was obvious, mate.
     
  11. Styx

    Styx Third Year

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    Voldemort isnt a lich yet as one pice of hes soul is still in hes body.
     
  12. Vendo

    Vendo Fourth Year

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    I agree with this. Lich's dont have souls in their body what-so-ever. Horcruxes dont really count as phylactery's. That, and whenever I picture a lich It's some kind of skeleton with billowing robes, riddled with runes and such.
     
  13. Jon

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    He's half way there.
     
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