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Rank the HP faculty ("teachers")

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by prtclehysics, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. prtclehysics

    prtclehysics Third Year

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    Top tier:
    Dumbledore
    Mcgonnagall
    Flitwick
    Mid Grade:
    Sprout
    Firenze
    Lupin
    Barty Crouch Jr.
    Low Level
    Hagrid
    Snape
    Trewaleney
    Umbridge
    Voldemort/Quirrel.
     
  2. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    By what metric?

    Going by 'would have worked well with my way to study', Snape would be 1st and Umbridge rock bottom. Going by 'easiest to get a top grade', the order is exactly reversed.
     
  3. prtclehysics

    prtclehysics Third Year

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    By who chose to continue on through to NEWT level. Dumbledore has to be ranked by proxy but given that he taught both Minerva and Tom Riddle I think he's a safe bet.
     
  4. Clerith

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    Eh, I'll just split them in two: teachers I would like to have, and teachers I wouldn't. Assuming I went to Hogwarts and wanted to study the subject, how I feel about whether they'd be good teachers or not:

    Yes list

    McGonagall
    Flitwick
    Sprout
    Slughorn
    Lupin
    Moody
    Grubbly-Plank
    Hooch
    Sinistra

    No thanks list

    Firenze
    Hagrid
    Trelawney
    Umbridge
    Binns
    Snape
    Lockhart
    Quirrell

    It's surprisingly hard to say with some. Like Sinistra and Hooch, Hooch had what, one lesson? Astronomy isn't shown much either. From what I remember, Sprout was actually great if you were interested in Herbology, the problem was that Harry wasn't interested in his lessons aside from Defence. I don't think a centaur can properly teach Divination to humans, assuming that subject can be properly taught at all. Snape... I'd probably be in Slytherin, but Snape is kinda unpleasant and his lessons weren't very impressive. I think that Slughorn would be a better, more pleasant teacher.
     
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  5. prtclehysics

    prtclehysics Third Year

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    For me Snape and Slughorn have the same issue of overt favoritism, though I will allow that Slughorn's manner is head and shoulders above Snape.
     
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    I'll be honest, I think I'd really like Slughorn, but Flitwick seems like the best fit as a teacher.
     
  7. Erotic Adventures of S

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    I think we would be ranking them in terms of sucessfully imparting knowledge to their students.

    So by that Metric.

    GOOD:
    Minerva
    Flitwick
    Grubby-Plank
    Sprout
    Lupin
    Fake Moody

    Middle:
    Firenze (Seemed to be okay)
    Hooch
    Slughorn
    Quirrel

    Bottom:
    Snape
    Hagrid
    Umbridge
    Lockhart

    The rest you leave out nopt knowing enough about them.

    Snape had potential to be good but his blatant favoritism got in the way of him teaching a whole class. He was more suited to be a individual tutor.

    Slughorm was similar to Snape although better. He was a great wizard who knew lots, but let personal feelings and pride get in the way of being a truely great teacher.

    Minerva and Flitwick win because not only are they good at magic like the others, but they are impartial and get everyone along.
     
  8. MsCalypso

    MsCalypso First Year

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    I'm just going to agree with your ranking since it's pretty much how I would rank them.

    It's funny how up until now pretty much everyone has declared Fake Moody a good teacher. He did manage to captivate and inspire his pupils. And although turning Malfoy into a ferret isn't setting the best of examples as to what is okay to do at Hogwarts, I think Barty Jr. has missed out by deciding to be a Death Eater.
     
  9. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, what Erotic wrote, pretty much.
     
  10. Shinysavage

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    I'm not convinced that who carries on to NEWTS is a good indication of quality of teaching. Harry would have done Potions at NEWTS regardless of who was teaching it, since he needed it to be an Auror (leaving aside Snape banning anyone without the necessary grades).

    Basically though, I'd agree with Erotic.
     
  11. Ashton Knight

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    Honestly, Snape, Lockhart, Umbridge and Trelawney would be at the top of my list. Not because I would want to learn from them, but just becuase I would want to have confrontations with them. Snape and Umbridge (And maybe Lockhart) I would get into physical blows with while Trelawney would only suffer through me smashing all of her crystal balls.
     
  12. Clerith

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    And you'd end up expelled.

    Besides, what kind of wizard gets into a physical brawl?
     
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    I feel like a physical brawl would be more satisfying. There's just something lacking emotionally when you cast a spell on someone from a distance.

    Besides, I could proably goad Snape and Umbridge into starting it by just refusing to move from my seat when they ask me to leave the class. What's the solution to that without them raising their wand at me first?

    As for being expelled? Has anyone ever actually been expelled from Hogwarts? At least, under Dumbledore? Draco was trying to kill him and he still came back the next year.
     
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    Hagrid was expelled. Well, you wouldn't get expelled from fighting, even if Snape would suggest it, but you would get so many detentions. Repeated violence would most likely result in a letter sent home. In Umbridge's case, she perhaps would expel you. Especially if Dumbledore was gone.

    What good is goading them into starting it when you're just a student and they have all the authority? They're pretty much free to punish you as they want. As Snape has repeatedly shown, teachers like him aren't much into fairness. If you tried to remain sitting, you'd be levitated or dragged, given detention, and disciplined as usual. Them raising their wand first is normal in this situation, jeez. There is no "he shot first" when it comes to a teacher disciplining a student.
     
  15. Ashton Knight

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    Hagrid got expelled under Dippet. Detentions I won't turn up to (Or just further goad Snape). Umbridge...I could probably suffer through if need be since all you have to do in her class is stare at a book. One issue of Playboy magazine hidden inside the book solves that problem.

    Really? In the muggle world, a teacher cannot physically remove a student from class. As far as I can recall, there's no canon evidence of a Hogwarts teacher doing anything similar.

    All of this is of course assuming at least one of the following if I get expelled:

    • That I can make a run for it before they snap my wand.
    • That I can apparate without a wand.
    • That I can learn wandless magic.
    • That I can get into Diagon Alley and buy/jack a wand from Ollivander.
    Yeah, I was always a problem child.
     
  16. Clerith

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    We also see nobody "rebelling" against the faculty and refusing to attend detentions and whatever else you are planning.

    This is the same thing from that other thread, isn't it? You didn't see it happen in canon, so you can't believe it?

    Seriously. The wizarding world isn't as soft as the muggle one, especially when it comes to punishment and discipline. We never see anyone "fighting" against the faculty... probably for a good reason, yeah? There are rules, of course - McGonagall reprimanded fake Moody when he used Transfiguration as punishment, but you can be fucking sure they can remove an unruly student from their class.

    I feel like you've been influenced by too many indy!Harry fics and are still thinking that muggle world rules go for the wizarding world.
     
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    You would have a wank in a class taught by Umbridge?
     
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    She just sits quietly at her desk for the majority of the class. I can block her out easily. Besides, no need to wank, just flick through the book and finish yourself off later.

    What other thread? And yes, because Dumbledore didn't expel someone for straight up attempted murder (I actually have nothing against Dumbledore, believe it or not) I doubt he would care about one kid refusing to attend detention.

    Honestly, wizarding society seems to be a bit soft compared to the muggle world. Losing points is the kind of punishment that kids all around the world wish for and a teacher has never full on yelled at a student in the face.

    And why wouldn't they? At least, the majority of them? Muggle rule, no killing - check. Muggle rule, no stealing - check. Muggle rule, minimum age to drink - check.

    Filch even laments the loss of corporal punishment several times.

    I would again like reiterate that I would only act this way if I am still able to use a wand/apparate after being expelled.
     
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    Your point about Draco coming back the year after trying to kill Dumbledore is a little undermined by the fact that Dumbledore does in fact get killed...
     
  20. karrottop94

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    My top picks would be:

    McGonagall
    Flitwick
    Slughorn
    Sprout
    Lupin
    Fake Moody/Barty Crouch Jr

    All of them actually taught their classes and while Fake Moody may have had a few screws loose he didn’t make students completely miserable.

    Absolute No:

    Umbridge
    Binns
    Snape
    Lockhart
    Quirrell
    Trelawney

    Most of their classes sound miserable, but in Snape’s defense it may have been possible to learn from him if you were a Slytherin (or at least not a Gryffindor) and did a lot of studying outside of class. Snape reminds me of the typical old grouchy tenured professor. Similar to Binns, he does teach but not very well.

    Everyone not listed would be “eh.” I don’t hate them but they aren’t my favorites either.