Is it just me, or is anyone else getting annoyed about the sheer number of New fics that insist on referring to Sirius as Harry's 'Father-Figure'. I don't know how many I've read, but I know that before I lost count I was up to thirteen consecutive, and thats not even counting the numerous shorter strings that were broken up before that. I mean YES to the drama, YES to the implication of a role model, But HELL NO to the creative 'genius' who managed to make that phrase so damn popular. Really, How hard is it to call him a Pseudo-Father? or a Close friend? How hard is it to think up your own damn Pseudonym? It's not like Harry even had more than three or four real conversations with the man!

While I'm on the subject what the hell is up with the phrase 'Authority-figure' too? Maybe I just read to many fics, but those to phrases have come to cause me some mental anguish. Every time I see either one of them I now have a near uncontrollable urge to strike something.



{Sigh}

Please, SOMEBODY tell me I'm not alone!

 

You're not. I don't even like Sirius being even clost to anything family oriented. He has had a total of 3 or 4 conversations, each ending within a minute. He knows Arthur more then he does Sirius, for fucks sake!

 

Really? I haven't noticed many of these kinds of fics. Then again, I'm more Naruto-orientated now.

But as said, the occasional fic that does have it generally pisses me off. Its just that I have trouble linking a joker like Sirius with the awkward main character known as Harry.

 

I think that the one that started all those Sirius fics was Of Western Stars by neutral, written in 2002. Here's the link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/662406/1/

Personally, I think it's a great story.

 

Yes...Everyone likes to give Harry a father figure. And Post OotP, we get a lot of Harry grieving over his lost father figure...
And then there's HPB...

 

apocalypsemeow: Please don't even get me STARTED on the HBP complication, I Still have no Idea where JKR came up with those pairings, But I assure you it probably wasn't anywhere that had seen sunlight in quite some time.

Belerdorhan:Thanks, I'll give it look

Surarrin:... You actually read some of my Naruto stuff? Thank you!
You make several good points too, but that still doesn't stop it from ticking me off. As for Interim-mentor, I can see Dumbledore, Arthur, even Remus to an extent, But Sirius? No...

Dark Lord Rostam: Thank you for being a voice of reason

 

I think it's just because James' best friend was Sirius. James = Harry's dad.
James is gone, so now Sirius = Harry's "dad"?

I have no idea, but that might be what they're thinking when they're writing their stories.

 

I used to run into those fics all the time. They're easy to dodge now, maybe because I don't fichunt as much as I used to.

And yes, HomicidalPsychoJungleCat, that is precisely what they think. That and the fact Sirius was dubbed "godfather"... or is what you said basically the same thing? I think I remember someone saying something about that somewhere...

 

PsychicLunar: Actually I've managed to avoid Fic hunting for a while as I've been going through the stories that have been accepted here, so the last week or so has been like Pure Bliss

HomicidalPsychoJungleCat: Your reasoning is probably sound, theirs is Highly fallacious.

Surarrin: Who says Harry thinks he needs a Dad? (Go Dark!Ind!ManupilateMeAndDie!Necro!Wandless!Harem!Harry!) I personally think that the vast majority of the people who use this simply have a hard time picturing life almost completely without their parents. As they can't relate to Harry's plight, the try to Imagine how they'd feel if they lost a parent, and then make their Fic reflect that. Of course JKR had to go and encourage them to do so with the Emo Posturing in Cannon, but still...


{Snicker}

The 'Father-Figure' has been an annoyance, But I've always had to laugh at the Abbreviations that some people put into their Fic Descriptions. I agree that they work well, but really when you end a up with a title like the one above it might be a little overboard

 

AHAHA, psychiclunar, I will stalk you to your grave. I am sorry.

In other news: Manatheron, "Dark!Ind!ManupilateMeAndDie!Necro!Wandless!Harem!Harry!" sounds like a parody fic. Please, don't write this one, especially since you misspelled manipulate. Also, is necro necrophiliac?

As well, as an answer to Manatheron's original post: I have to admit that I read Aspen in the Sunlight's AYLNO until Harry started cutting himself, and he dealt quite well with a father figure. I agree that you don't need one if you play your cards right, but they don't have to suck. Unfortunately, Sirius is completely unsuited to be a father, at least in this stage of the game.

#1. Sirius is jumpy and bouncy POST Azkaban. What was he like PRE Azkaban?

#2. Following the usual storyline, in which James and Lily make quick work and Harry is born when they're twenty, Sirius is 20 as well. Does he really want a kid to tie him down, if he doesn't have a spouse?

#3. POST Azkaban, no matter how fine he appears to the world, he's not. I suspect that JKR killed him off to prevent him from snapping.

 

... oh no, you! I had nightmares about you joining this forum and stalking me! Where is your intro thread so I can complain to you more?

Good plan to raid the library, Manatheron, first I did here before I even became a member... your name is also sounding familiar to me.

And really you can't forget that Remus, Snape, Hagrid, and even Moody have been portrayed as Harry's fatherfigure in fanfics. Now which of these do you think is emotionally stable enough to handle it hm?

 

I'm pretty sure I came across a 'Harry raised by Moody' story which was simply hilarious. Imagine young Harry screaming 'CONSTANT VIGILANCE' while attempting to use the 'Moody charm' to get girls. But aside from the laugh factor, Moody's way too paranoid to be emotionally stable as a father-figure. He's more the crazy mentor type. Remus is a very depressed man and has problems taking care of himself. There aren't many stories in which he actually takes charge of things. I hate it when an interesting mentor or character become some sappy father-figure. Don't you think Harry's better off standing on his own anyway? Death to Sirius, I never liked the character.

 

Ugh, by far the worst 'father-figure' is Snape. But honestly, why does Harry even need one? He's gotten along pretty damn well up to this point, so why now?

 

Guys, we all know the importance of a father figure according to Dr. Dobson of Focus on (Fucking Up) the Family.

Now this of course means that Harry will doubtless turn into a flaming homosexual unless he and Sirius and Remus spend some quality shower-time together.

 

What i find amusing and I believe Surarrin touched on it. Harry does not seem to even like his own father. As far i see, he likes Sirius better than his own dad which is sad.

I like Sirius's character but I think Rowling for once did something right by getting rid of him.

 

Hmmm ... father-figure!Sirius is as exaggerated as the argument Harry hadn't spoken with him more than three to four times.

Since summer after third year they had been in contact. Then he spent most of August 1995 at Grimmauld Place, and again the winter hols, together perhaps six weeks. That's enough time for them to get to know each other. They are interested in each other (not that way you sick and perverse people), and even if Harry was hesitant to open up to an adult, Sirius would have stalked him every moment he had a chance.

They surely aren't like father and son, but certainly more than casual acquaintances. Let's say they are like ... hmmm ... caring godfather and godson?

I've seen both in post OotP stories - Harry wheeping over the loss of a 'parent' and Harry just shrugging over a casualty of war and moving on. Both variants are likewise riddikulus.

Sadly a lot of authors tend to use the extreme. Thus those elements become clichés, be it father-figure!Sirius, God-of-manipulations!Dumbledore, Quidditch-field-containing!trunks or shocked-to-death!Goblins.

That's part of Odd Ideas from Rorschach's Blot.

My father never took me into the shower. Am I doomed now ?

 

Ok, First off, japanese_jew: Eww, just... No. Necro! as in Necromancer Not necrophile. Slight difference there. Also I have no Problem with people giving him someone to look up to, or to Raise him, It's the Horrendously overused phrase that's getting on my nerves.

PsychicLunar: I have no Idea where, But your name is looking a little familiar too... Hmm. Oh, and my favorite Psudo-father story had to be one of the Moody parodies Funny stuff I tell you! I'm pretty sure it's the same one that snufkin is talking about. I'll have to try and find it again to post here, cause I seem to recall Minerva getting obliviated and then walking around turning things in to flying monkey's afterworld.

Giovanni: ... Please, I did NOT need that Picture in my head

Dark Minion: Hey, thanks! Now I don't need to look it up. You make a good point about the amount of time they spent together, But I'm still not convinced that it's enough to become more than Friendly. Harry would need several long Heart-to-hearts with the man as he's not used to people giving a damn, before he's likely to truly open up. With the Weasly's there (and Molly disapproving of Sirius) I just don't see them getting the necessary 'alone-time'.

 

Of course, how friendly or close they become is up to the interpretation of the author - but obviously not as close as a father-figure and more than a casual aquaintance. Thus some griefing after Sirius' death is ok - especially as the death was caused by Harry iniciating a rescue mission to save Sirius.

However, suicidal!Harry because of Sirius is just some stupid emo fantasy.