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A question regarding fem!Blaise

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mordac, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Alright, so for a long while, before Book Six was released, there was a huge divergence regarding the sex of this character. So, many female!Blaise stories appeared, and forum debates raged on. Then came book six, and lo and behold, the conundrum was solved, and Blaise was presented as a black male. Now most people, however grudgingly, dropped the fem!Blaise, and turned to other Slytherin faceless characters. However, this forum seems strangely stopped in time, and still insists--and this is noticeable in many fanfic reviewing threads--on having fem!Blaise. My question is: why? What is inherently special about Blaise that makes the role to be taken by "her" in the fic unable to be taken up by another Slytherin faceless character such as Daphne Greengrass or Tracey Davis? Are y'all too emotionally invested in the concept to let go of it, or is there some deeper reason? I am not posting this to stir up trouble or insult anyone, but merely because I am curious as to the reason of the insistence upon this, especially since for me, finding out on the course of reading that the story features fem!Blaise is usually a huge turn-off.

    Hope no one gets too riled up.
     
  2. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    ...Eh? I know a few people on this site like Female Blaise, even I used to like the idea of her, but I really dont think many care she turned out to be male. Sure, they'd of liked Blaise to be female so she can be used, but whatever. I think more are annoyed at the fact it took JKR until the sixth book to finally confirm that Blaise was actually male.

    Now, if someone wrote a Female Blaise story, good on them. We have an author on this site that writes Harry/Female Harry as a pairing and most of us like it because its good.
     
  3. mcatrage

    mcatrage Raptured to Hell

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    I think its because when first reading canon you want to put a face to all the characters. So once you hear his/her name you have a mental image made.

    With Blaise I pictured a girl and then fanfiction just reiterated that for me.
     
  4. Erotic Adventures of S

    Erotic Adventures of S Denarii Host

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    I think it is because you need a girl in that house who is hot and a possible partner for Harry. You also need to show that not everyone in there is eveil. The idea is stupid the 1/4 of all children are dark or evil. It pissed me off more that they made Blaise a typic Slytherin than a guy.
     
  5. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    But why can't that role be taken up by the aforementioned Tracey Davis and Daphne Greengrass?
     
  6. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    When i think of Blaise, i think of a hot chick. I suppose people are so use to having this strange paring it kind of gets stuck to them in the long run. Many of the stories i read on the paring of the two are very good and entertaining. So i support the character as well. I really didnt give it a much thought when i found out that the character of is a male.

    Dark Syaoran is right, i'm more annoyed on the fact that she took such a long time to get the book out, which turned out to be a waste of money.
     
  7. Necrule Paen

    Necrule Paen DLP Elite DLP Supporter

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    The continuation of fem!blaise is just one of many ways authors here and elsewhere show their displeasure at HBP.
     
  8. Muttering Condolences

    Muttering Condolences Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    Tracy and Daphne just are not mentioned enough in canon enough to be anything other than killable fodder. While Blaise was once one of these in the first 4 books, in the fifth we saw a junction where Harry could be paired with a hot Slytherin, without having to deal with Pansy Parkinson.

    Despite canon, I fully support a fem!Blaise. Draco664's Apprentice and Journeyman Potter are excellent contributions towards the anti-male!Blaise supporters.
     
  9. TheIllusiveOne

    TheIllusiveOne Raptured to Hell

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    Anyone who complains over something this stupid is a retard, period. Who cares if Blaise is a guy or a girl? Considering there are fics where Harry is a girl, males get impregnanted and Snape is shagging Hermione, there are much worse things then the sex of a character that wasn't confirmed until recently. If it bothers you so much then consider any fic where Blaise is a chick an AU fic.
     
  10. Thalarian

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    I agree with Illusive and others about Fem!Blaise not being imortant and how it all just drops down to whether you enjoy either types of stories.

    Persoanlly, I am more irritated at the fact that JKR spent almost all the books giving Draco, Pansy, and his two dipshit sidekicks any sort of personality that stuck out beyond oher Slyth students when she obviously had all these other Slytherin characters created.

    Not just Slytherin, but every house. She had all these characters for each, probably even more since Hogwarts is supossed to have around 400 students if I'm not mistaken, and yet she never really gave some decent depth.

    She fucked up the Gryffindor personalities, she screwed up the Slytherin characters, she underplayed the Hufflepuff students and she just randomly tossed around Ravenclaw names.

    Had she taken the time to really dig in and create intricate and interwoven stories and even personalities of a lot of the members of the houses, and even created a few more characters then it would have made a much richer story with more then one compelling character. Granted there would have been a lot more to write about but giving small, brief snippets of characters just doesn't make me care about whether she ends up killing them off or not, and that's where she drug herself down when she tried to shock and awe us.

    Granted, had she done that, then we wouldn't be able to debate and create our own personal thoughts on these characters in our fanfiction. Just my personal view.
     
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  11. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Prior to book 6, the number of mentions is, to the best of my admitedly fitful memory, the same.

    Great argumentation tactic. I'm sure you'd be considered a great debator in middle school.

    Who cares if Harry is fucking Malfoy?

    Certainly there are. However, that's a two wrongs make a right falacy.

    I was merely wondering why the insistence upon this.
     
  12. Yarrgh!

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    As far as I know, the only Slytherin females in Canon are Pansy Parkinson and Millicent Bulstrode...Daphne Greengrass and Tracy Davis aren't ever mentioned in Canon, which is why Tracy is often portrayed as being a Ravenclaw, and Daphne rarely is. I personally don't even know where the names came from...the only explanation I can think of is that JKR's list of First Years that's on the Lexicon or something contained the names.

    So yeah, in terms of Harry having a Slytherin girlfriend, Blaise (who's gender was unidentifed until HBP) was the only viable option, because Pansy's a sycophant and Millicent is ugly. Plus, it gave leeway, because the character itself was never described, so authors could be free to make her hot/pretty/plain/ugly, make her a Muggleborn/Half-Blood/Pureblood/Creature (Vampire) and such.
     
  13. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    You have to admit though, if J.K. went with the way Thalarian said then i don't think this DLP.net would have been created in the first place. Meh! just my opinion.
     
  14. Thalarian

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    That's why I said it's probably better that she didn't. But she DID fuck up in a lot of her presentation of characters and where she took them.

    Harry.

    The worst character in HP in my opinion. She had a character that could have been incredible, and not just Super!Power or anything like that, but she could have woven a very powerful and in depth character. She was almost there, but she just fucked up along the way.
     
  15. Jon

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    In an interview JKR allowed them to take a snap shot of her notes, and lo' and behold, Tracey Davis and Daphne Greengrass were on there. As for Fem!Blaise, I still enjoy reading about the character, but i'm not obsessive with it. (Unlike Daphne Kekeke.)

    As for the people who said Daphne was a faceless character to just kill off-Hey Fuck you, buddies! I held off neg-repping you, so count yourself lucky! ^_^

    In JK's notes she also had Daphne named 'Queenie' which alludes to her personality. This put's her far above most of the character's in canon who only get a few brief lines, even though Daphne has never been mentioned, she still has more of a defining aspect then most of the character's who have been mentioned in Harry's year, so hey-FUCK YOU BUDDIES! :D

    Anyway, Fem!Blaise just makes a better character then Canon!Blaise. Why? because she is more usable, and Canon!Blaise is used as a fucktoy between Draco and Hermione in fanon so much it's sickening.
     
  16. Manatheron

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    They are Mentioned during sorting in the first book (Name and house only), I'm pretty sure that's the extent of their Cannon!Time
     
  17. Jon

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    I don't recall them being mentioned in the books at all.
     
  18. Yarrgh!

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    They aren't mentioned in the Sorting. From Slytherin, the only people mentioned are Draco Malfoy, Pansy Parkinson, Crabbe, Goyle, Nott and Blaise Zabini.
     
  19. Oujou Akaash

    Oujou Akaash Unspeakable

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    Yes! Yarrgh is right.
     
  20. Jon

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    Actually, I amend my previous post;

    Daphne is mentioned during the OWL sequence in OotP.
     
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