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  1. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Not to be overly bandwagonny, but I think there is a point here: picking from only those three when there were others (not checked by Seratin) to consider, his actions (~#480) where he wanted to lynch me, thinking I was a Hermonie, when we needed to go after Castiel. Yes, he changed his tune on this, but only when convinced by a preponderance of argument, and the shifting of group opinion. He was coming off very scum to me, and if the Smile is potentially dead, I don't think killing the...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 23, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  2. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    You're forgetting Kens, Kalas, Aekiel, and whoever else is alive who Seratin hasn't checked and I'm forgetting. Tsk tsk.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  3. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Seratin: Are those in order of when you checked them? And you didn't cure Republic? Taure: Can you confirm you were cured day one, if so?
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  4. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I'll float this idea: not saying it's true, or that I support it, but I think it merits discussion. Seratin's info and Republic's claim only prove that Republic's not the Smile (if Seratin's truthful, which I think likely). Yet, Stojil's been pushing that it means the Smile is dead, pretty hard. There are 10 players left: I don't think it's beyond the realm of credulity that one of Stojil, Kens, Kalas, Taure, jwlk, or Aekiel is the Smile. Seratin has checked Stojil, and he checks sane......
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  5. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    No can do, Stojil, unless he preempted you.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  6. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Err, no, that makes no sense, ignore that post, rofl. ---------- Post automerged at 08:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 PM ---------- ^ mine, got ninjad ---------- Post automerged at 08:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 PM ---------- If neither Fen nor Smile were scum, the Fen would've killed. If that's true, either the Fen and the Hermonies targeted the same person (possible), or the Hermonies didn't NK (unlikely). If one of Fen or Smile was the Smile, the NK on...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  7. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Also, there was no theFen kill on day two: Fenraellis was Lynched! and SmileOfTheKill was Lynched!, followed by LochNess has survived a kill. I suppose the Hermonies and the Fen could've both targeted Lochness with Lochness having also been a KaiBOT, with either Fen or Smile being the Smile, but that's unlikely. That, or two Hermonies are dead, or the Jon is dead, and both the Fen and the Hermonies tried to kill Lochness, who was still protected by the Smile.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  8. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    If it can be proven beyond doubt that Vesvius was the Smile, then most of the harm from roleclaiming is removed, since we'll be able to kill Castiel before he modkills again. So if that's why Republic isn't roleclaiming (and Seratin's not talking), he should. I think it's more likely that Republic's the Smile, and is trying to figure out wtf Stojil is hinting so he can play along, but we'll see. ---------- Post automerged at 08:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:20 PM ---------- If...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 22, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  9. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I dunno why Stojil thinks Vesvius was the Smile. Until he properly explains it, I'll be staying with Republic, who's consistently behaved as I'd expect the Smile to. ---------- Post automerged at 06:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 PM ---------- When does day end, Lungs? If it looks to be a mislynch, I"ll try and change.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  10. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Republic still talking nonsense. Calling Castiel the Jon; pointing at jwlk and Kens with no explanation (as he's consistently been doing to various people since the start). Let's not forget about how he's consistently defended, and tried to keep alive, the Vesvius. Furthermore, despite him claiming I'm the Palindrome, he's still pushing to lynch me, when we should be lynching the Smile. If we spend any kill on someone other than the Smile or Castiel, until Castiel is dead, Castiel will...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  11. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Castiel, of all people... DX
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  12. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Not completely uncontested, since we're throwing them in the asylum (and lynching people). 7:35:32 PM <Lungs|Cloud> though, in NP1, he [the Vesvius] still has a chance to modkill, between his release and his reincarceration we shouldn't completely ignore the Smile, as well, since every successful modkill makes him harder to kill.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  13. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    If people go free when they survive an asylum kill vote instead of staying incarcerated, just keep him incarcerated until the end of the game, while adding suspected Hermonies to the asylum and killing them, and lynching suspected Smiles (or asylum-killing them as well, depending on how long the Irene survives).
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  14. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Especially since we'll have Aekiel and the Irene's asylum commits tomorrow to use on suspected hermonies.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  15. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    How else do you suggesting killing the Smile, other than lynching him? Castiel will be in the asylum, harmless, regardless. If we vote to asylumkill him every day, we'll know if we've successfully lynched the Smile when Castiel actually dies. Meanwhile, we can also asylum any suspected Hermonies, once Castiel's in, and might catch the Jon while trying to lynch the Smile. Point out a legitimate problem with that plan, please.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  16. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Specifically, re Taure: suggesting lynching suspected Hermonies instead of suspected theSmile, and all the problems in his accusation that I pointed out in my first reply.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  17. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Taure's been incredibly anti-Town in his suggestions these past few posts. Doesn't make sense for him to be an ex-Mod, otherwise I'd be lynchvoting for him: put him as either the Jon, or a Hermonie. As such, voting for the most likely the Smile: Deadline Lynch Vote: Republic21
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  18. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    This, as well: if you're so certain I'm a Hermonie, why are you voting for me, when we need to kill the Smile today?
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  19. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    This is a nonsense: the only use of today's lynch that makes sense, today, is lynching the most likely theSmile. We do that... by lynching the most likely scum. If I now want to lynch the most likely scum, and before I also wanted rid of the most likely scum, why the fuck would my target change? We get rid of the Smile by lynching scum; knowing who the Vesvius is does nothing to change that, and you suggesting that it does is just bizarre, wrong, and misleading. No, not pointing a lot...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 21, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  20. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I can't say I understand it myself. It was quite obvious to me that the Mishie had died. I can only speculate as to why I was targeted for night kill, or why they even tried to NK in the first place. Maybe the Hermonies were unsure as to the cause of the nightly protection, or realized it was the Mishie but just said "why the hell not", I really don't know. All I can say is that I'm not a Hermonie, and don't know why I was targeted. Not particularly moving, I know, but there's nothing I can...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 20, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  21. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    The brilliance of Ollie, my word. -_- I had been a bit suspicious of Vesvius, especially due to his (her?) actions yesterday, so we'll see if there's any difference in night actions from here on. Best option is probably to asylum + votekill Castiel indefinitly; if the Moridin is still alive, kill to remove protection to speed it up, but neutralized in asylum so it doesn't really matter. Since the Smile has to die, as well, that effectively role-reveals the Smile on death. Vesvius's...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 20, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  22. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    [Lynch Vote] Republic21 - 3 || Ashaya, Jangel, Kens (all deadline) Gambit - 7 + 1 || Taure, Snowflake, Gambit, Aekiel, jwlk, Republic, Seratin || Deadline: Vesvius [Asylum Vote] Uncle Stojil Free: 7 || Kens, Republic, Taure, Snowflake, Aekiel, Vesvius, Seratin Includes Seratin's vote below, pretty sure it's right, speak up if you have issue with it~ Would imagine 7 for lynch
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 19, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  23. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    He knows too much to be faking? What? We list in the thread the four possibilities for who he could be. The only confirmed town on the list is Castiel. He reads this, posts that he is the Castiel, with a plausible scenario surrounding his realization. What about this, really is "too much not to be faking?" I'm incredulous. Furthermore, in what universe is this grounds to keep him out of the asylum? By his own admission, he's powerless, and since we're not votelynching anyway,...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 18, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  24. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I interpret that as plurality votes between kill/free/incarcerate, one for each player committed. That, I interpret as "the next day, the player will be freed unless voted to incarcerate again, but Lungs should clarify.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  25. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Meanwhile, more associates, more Taures (not really an issue if we're just going to asylum everybody), if the Vira's still alive, that's two potential kills, if the Jon's still alive, that's one potential kill, if the Vesvius is still alive, that's 3+ potential kills, if the Smile's still alive, there's potential kills there... It's something to consider, sure, but it's not as clear-cut as you make it.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  26. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Maybe I'm not getting this, but it seems unnesc. convoluted. Why kill Republic using the Fen, when we could commit and then possibly kill + role reveal later? If you had a target in mind other than Republic, sure, but who?
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  27. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    no way of determining guilt in the asylum beyond the Kensington*, assuming he hasn't used it, I meant to say, obv there are other roles that can too
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  28. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    The problem with that is scum have control over whether or not to NK, so we have no way determining guilt beyond the Kensington. If we're using inaction as proof of guilt, guilt can be easily faked. Until we know 2/3 Hermonies are dead, it's not effective. Simply saying "yay, no NKs for a night" doesn't work. If he's framed, then we'll kill him, lose a townie, and NKs will resume; that's not really a benefit. At some point, we have to act decisively.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  29. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    1) Seratin, are you actually going to back up any accusation you make? Let's look at what you've posted: Mayor vote on Taure, because "he can't be scum again after so many times" Began the exodus from Taure to Aekiel, which people found suspicious earlier The classic "feeling" suspicion of mishie Lynch vote on Kensington, based on lurking (this one, I agree with and later followed, intending to remove it Kensington spoke. Would you have?) Saying you're "fairly convinced" of...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  30. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Taure's the only one who's actually given any explanation for their asylum vote. Republic and Seratin jumping on without explanation, suspicion growing.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  31. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Republic21 See reasoning in earlier post. You're not getting lynched because you're annoying, you're getting lynched because you're acting scummy as fuck. Taure's wrong on two points: the Jon could've been the NK target and survived, as has been said, and a standard lynch of Lochness is a bad decision, since there's only 25% chance a random town would be killed and role revealed, and the Castiel is the least powerful now. I'm leaning towards either further...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  32. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Even still, the Lutris would be killed "before" the MattSilver, and it's the MattSilver inheritance that would prevent the nightkill.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  33. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    - the Incarceration vote. This is a majority vote during the day. This is weighed against Free Votes and Incarceration Votes. Results in the continued Incarceration of the player voted on. The next day, the player will be freed. I mean, really. Three lines down from the name...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  34. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Even if Fenraelis was scum, do all kills on that night have the same priority? I'd think that it'd be 1) Azira and Zenzao, and then 2) Fishy and mishie (lulz). In which case, the MattSilver role (which is the one that's actually relevant here) couldn't have been inherited. If all four were equal priority, then it's also possible but unlikely.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  35. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    1) the Fenraellis You may kill a player at night if there are two consecutive mislynches (continuous). You may not kill more than two nights in a row, even if there are continuous mislynches. Pierces protection. Either one of Fenraelis and Smile was scum, or the Fenraelis is dead. Hasn't been mentioned. 2) revealed!Castiel KaiDASH made a KaiBOT the MattSilver (unlikely, but possible) the Mishie, if OTP alive (extremely unlikely) the Palindrome, if OTP alive (unlikely) the Smile, if the...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 17, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  36. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Rofl. That's embarrassing. Right on, then.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  37. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Assumed it was 1/2 + 1, but guess not. And more time than I thought, too. My thinking is this: I've seen him looking at the thread multiple times, today. I posted, mentioning him as a lurker, Seratin put a lynch vote on him. At that point, he posted in the thread ("Ash: Tripping the Geiger Counter since 2012.") Since then, I've seen him looking at the thread a time or two. Because this is based on inactivity, all he'd have to do is post something meaningful and the wagon would pull over, we...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  38. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Need two more for a lynch; ~15 minutes left...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  39. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Kalas had, thought there was another recently but maybe not, w/e, point's made.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  40. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Snowflake's started talking, now, and I don't think she's particularly suspicious beyond that. If they talk, the vote has done it's business, so we should move on from her imo. I pointed out Kens as a lurker, yesterday. Seratin threw a vote on, today. Posted a one-liner today, and nothing else. Deadline Lynch Vote: Kensington I'd be for putting Republic in the asylum, as well. That poem nonsense D1, really suspicious response to me pointing him out earlier, pointing fingers at me with no...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  41. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Rescind Lynch Vote Got Snowflake talking, which is good enough. Going to be out most of the day; ends at ~6pm EST, right? Kens, Republic (who still hasn't said much), other lurkers I mentioned earlier still look a decent shout, will wait and see who comes out today. ---------- Post automerged at 09:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 AM ---------- re: KaiBOT, hadn't realized it worked on the same night. I do think it slightly more likely that it was a Kai-KaiBOT death, rather...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  42. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Snowflake Seems a good bet, out of the lurkers.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 15, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  43. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I'm sorry, but lol. 1) Posted more in both postcount and actual content than you had when you posted that. Let's see what you've contributed. An empty mayor vote, some shit poetry, response to said shit poetry, a "d'aww, people died, and there's no role reveal :(", and this nonsense, nothing. 2) Scrambled to post right after you called me out? What scramble? 8 posts and 12 hours, after I'd woken up and had time to think it through. 3) You post to attack me, within 10 minutes, so...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 14, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  44. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    That makes sense, then. Agree with most of the rest of your post. Gambit, care to expand on that, re: jwlk's post? On lurkers/empty posters: Republic21, Snowflake, Smile, Vesvius, Kens... Aekiel's probably foremost for me right now (asylum/lynch today/tonight?) unless he can come up with some good explanation. Regardless of if he can, we should look at the lurkers. ~26 hours left
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 14, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  45. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Hmm, forgot about that, interesting if it does. Best guess, if it does kill and was used, would be on Azira (instead of the Moridin's asylum-kill). Lungs?
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 14, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  46. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Not entirely correct. There were four probable kill methods: the Jon's oneshot (unlikely to be used so early), the Hermonie nightkill, the Palindrome OTP-kill, and the Moridin asylum-kill (which you ignore here, but point out later on, for some reason). If you accept that the Moridin didn't act (which does seem reasonable, unlikely the Hermonies would choose not to NK), it still seems a bit unlikely that the Hermonies would kill off Zenzao/Fishy OTP so early, but potentially possible....
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 14, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  47. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    The Moridin can kill someone in the Asylum once every two nights. Damn, the Lutris and MattSilver would've been useful.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 13, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  48. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    Which is exactly my point. We don't have an obvious target because it's day one, we have nothing to go on, people are flailing about in the dark at vague suspicions. town has no strong lynch target = town lynching fairly randomly klackerz also has no strong lynch target = klackerz lynching fairly randomly
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 13, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  49. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    I'm sorry, but what? Nowhere, and I repeat, nowhere did I claim that I wanted people to stay quiet. That's just absurd, lol. My point was that since it's early in the game (and therefore little to go on), the town's collective opinion won't much different/more accurate that the Klackerz's opinion, and both are fairly random. What's more, "rely on the klackerz getting lucky"? The klackerz is going through the same reasoning as everyone else, with access to the same info as everyone...
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 13, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
  50. Jangel
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    DLPhunt: A Mafia of Stars and Suckers | ExMods win

    No harm in the Klackerz deciding this early, really, so no problem with no consensus. Satisfied with the mayoral vote, as well. No strong feelings towards either, and not much difference between them, for me. Am a bit curious/suspicious as to Azira's claims to being especially suited to the mayoral position.
    Post by: Jangel, Feb 12, 2012 in forum: Little Italy
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