Lord Commander Vote: Moridin

I pretty much just picked randomly. :/

 

The 1st Lord Commander Election


NOMINATIONS:
Moridin (3): Eternity Lost, Lungs, Snowflake
Lungs (3): Sacrifice, Aekiel, Krogan
Fenraellis (3): CheddarTrek, Ashaya, Yeagen
KaiDASH (3): guljons, Aziraphale, Taure
Sesc (3): Gila, Nemrut, LochNess
Vesvius (2): Kensington, Gambit
Ashaya (1): Anya, Sesc


ELECTORAL CANDIDATES:
(13 votes to win - 7 people have not voted.)
Lungs (3): Lungs, Sacrifice, Gambit
Moridin (3): Vesvius, Eternity Lost, Anya
Fenraellis (5): Snowflake, Kensington, CheddarTrek, Moridin, Yeagen
KaiDASH (3): KaiDASH, Aziraphale, guljons
Sesc (4): Taure, Nemrut, Gila, Sacrifice
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The following players have not declared any nominations of their own:

Moridin
KaiDASH
Geabe
Vesvius
Fenraellis
jwlk

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I fear I've made a bit of a blunder, but thankfully it's still Day 1 (thank god for a lack of a time limit!) and no Night Actions have been filed and nobody's died yet so hopefully it'll only cause minor confusion. I misquoted the role details for THE RED PRIESTESS in the final ruleset- I'd changed it in the 2nd-to-last edition, to reflect game balance issues.

At the time of this post it says this:

When it should say this:

I apologize for my mishandling the game like this, and as soon as I've posted this I'm going to make the changes in the official Ruleset and the role details in the Red Priestess's private QT.

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As a reminder (since somebody seems to have done it), I would like to say that quoting your QuickTopic is strictlyFORBIDDEN. Don't do it unless you have my express permission. Divulging information from your QuickTopic is fine- just don't be quoting anything from it. It's outside the scope of the game, and I severely disapprove of quote-un-quote 'tactics' involving QT abuse. It'll earn you an automatic banning from any future games I run if you do.

Anyway, sorry for the inconvenience. Hunt on!

 

I nominated Sesc so might as well vote for him too.

Lord Commander Vote: Sesc

 

Lutris you didn't count my standard vote. Never mind.

Rescind Standard Vote

It also seems like Fen is leading and Sesc needs only one more to tie him.
Nothing personal against you, Fen, but I doubt you are town and don't want you to get this title.

Rescind Lord Commander Vote

Lord Commander Vote: Sesc

 

For now I will vote for my nomination, but if it doesn't go anywhere will of course change to one of the other LC candidates who will seem best for the job.

Lord Commander Vote: KaiDASH

So out of the 5 candidates do you realistically think that there could be at least 1 scum in there? You could probably count Ves in there too, because he had some early support.

 

I think there's probably at least two scum in the selections. One from the Red King's Court, the other from the Wildlings. The White Walker, if he's smart, wouldn't want himself put up for running, since he's best suited to staying in the background until the late game. Then again, people aren't nominating themselves in this, so if someone has (by random chance) picked the White Walker as their candidate, it would seem to me that they'd be stuck in a crappy position.

Like say, Fenraellis is at the moment. He's got the nomination, but he doesn't seem to want it. He voted for KaiDASH when you can vote for yourself (just not nominate yourself). It seems to me that he's wanting to avoid becoming the first Lord Commander without actually turning it down.

Now, I'm not accusing him of being the White Walker at this point, but the way I see it, if the Walker were to be nominated, this would probably be the way he'd act.

 

I agree with you Aekiel, he doesn't seem to want it. The only place he mentions wanting it is here:

This does look like what scum who didn't want the lord commander nomination would act like. Maybe his faction already has a nominee or he's the White Walker, I don't know. In fact I'm leaning towards him and Cheddar being on one of either the Wildings ot the Red King's court.

But I'm failing to see where idea about him voting for Kaidash comes from?

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He hasn't voted yet.

 

Oops. Confused him with Aziraphale for a moment there. Their avatars remind me of each of them, for some reason.

 

Well, I was mostly somewhat perturbed by Cheddar's surging support for me, when I don't actually have any sort of direct affiliation with her. So, like I said, I appreciated it in a way, but it was also rather offputting.

That being said, I certainly wouldn't mind the position, as being protected from the White Walker indefinitely, and having a free survival from the Scum factions is certainly more appealing to me in this ruleset, than the previous "Mayor" elections that we have had in the other games. Not to mention the extra information from the checks will help to root out the Scum.

Either way, I'm hardly any less suspicious of Sacrifice(and I would have to look back, but there was somebody else), for trying to make a case against me based upon something I didn't even say. The bit about the Horn of Winter, when I had expressedly said that it was my belief "based upon the wording". For what it's worth, I had been asking for clarification regarding the matter a few times in my QT, myself, prior to Lutris answering in-thread.

Anyway, I'm off to class once more, but since unlike the relatively unexpected Nomination, one can actually vote for themselves, I think I actually will:
Lord Commander Vote: Fenraellis

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Also... what? How does my avatar remind you of Aziraphale

 

No idea why, but I always confuse your two avatars. Must be a mismatch in my brain.

 

Well for now

Vote Lord Commander: Sesc

Depending how the voting goes I would be willing to switch it, not gonna go to Fen though as, like everyone's stated, he doesn't seem to want it a lot and is playing a bit like how we could imagine a scum to.

 

I think you guys are assuming too much wrt what (scum) roles would and would not want the LC.

If Fenraellis was a non-ww scum, what motive would he have to dissuade votes on him?

- He wants to stay 'out of the spotlight'?​

No that's clearly wrong, since simply by existing and playing the game he's gathered support (and attention) seemingly completely by accident.

- He has a scumbuddy already in the running and *insert your implications here*​

No, that's also clearly wrong, since popular assumptions are that each scum faction will only put forward 1 candidate at most. So if fen stayed in the race (or didn't actively try to stay out of it) then it would throwoff worldbuilding since people would assume 1 wildling candidate, 1 red court and 0 ww (wtf?) when it's actually two wildling (or red court).

If Fenraellis was the ww, what motive would he have to dissuade votes on him?
Well, imo - None.

The white walker definitely wants to get LC (and no, I'm not going to go into reasons, it should be obvious why) and if it was happening without any effort required, well then.

Also aekiel, eternity lost and lochness are hedging and generally being safe as hell in what they say wrt Fen's scumtells ('well hes acting in a way i would expect scum to act but i'm not going to do anything about it'), so (this is where I go to look up what the syntax is for a lynch vote, because stop being lazy lutris)

Standard Vote: Player Aekiel

 

Yes I'm being safe, because the Lord Commander vote isn't over yet, and lynches don't happen until after that is done. If Fenraellis is elected Lord Commander then I don't see any point in voting to lynch him, since popular opinion would already have him as unlynchable (seriously, elect him LC then lynch him? It just doesn't make sense) for at least the first day.

I've put my vote in for Lungs as LC since he reads as town to me at the moment. I'm not voting for Fen because of the scumtells I highlighted earlier. His initial downplaying of the nominations he received suggests to me that he didn't want to acquire his involuntary bandwagon, and I feel that it would be silly for any town player to refuse a nomination simply because their chance of winning the election would remove it from scum hands.

All in all, I'm waiting for the Lord Commander vote to finish before I vote to lynch anybody, because it's pointless voting to lynch the person who may be the Lord Commander soon.

 

Color scheme probably, if I just glance over it quickly I've gotten them confused before as well.

 

Also, I don't see why the White Walker would want to be the first Lord Commander. The First LC is going to die, simply because at least two of the scum factions are going to want him dead in order to try and get their candidate in afterwards. If the White Walker were to be the first Lord Commander, it would eventually show up that he is unkillable, at which point lynching him becomes practically a necessity. Only two town roles have an extra life, and though counter claiming would potentially give away two of our best roles, if the reward is killing the White Walker, I'd be willing to take the risk.

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Probably, I only really look at avatars if there are tits involved.

 

The Walker can't be lynched and touche, I only pay attention if its tits or moving .

 

I'm not doing anything about it right now because although his actions make me wary of electing him LC, it isn't enough for me to say I think he is for sure scum so lynch him right now. For LC I want to see someone who is really seeming to be protown, not someone who is making me actively question their behaviour. But just because I am questioning someone, I don't think I should automatically vote them off right away. The day is going on, and if every person I found suspicious I voted for, I would end up changing my vote 20 times.

Best to wait and see LC elections in my opinion and go from there.

 

Ah yes, my mistake. I meant to say that the Blacksmith should give the Valyrian Steel Sword to somebody so that he can be killed. Then again, if he looks to be unkillable during the night, lynching him could be a good move, just in case he's nightkill immune but not the White Walker. Giving away one of our best weapons against the WW when we're not certain it's him would be a bad move on our part.

 

Hmm, as I go along I'm seeing more and more holes in this scenario.

I'm still very suspicious of Fenraellis and his inexplicable bandwagon, but the scenario for him being the White Walker is looking less and less certain as I examine it. He's my main candidate for scum at this point though, so I'd vote to lynch him, should he fail to become the Lord Commander.