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a question about the third movie

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by shlager_5321, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. shlager_5321

    shlager_5321 First Year

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    i just saw the third movie again on T.V and a question popped into my head.
    in the part where Harry and the others were on thei way to the cast with Peter and Ramus tramsformed into a werewolf, in order to protect the kids Sirius change into his Padfoot form and he fought with the were-Ramus, in that fight i saw that Ramus bit Sirius a couple of tims.
    so according to that shouldnt Sirius be turned into a werewold also??
    thanks in advance
    shlomo
     
  2. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    This very well could be evidence that your chemistry changes when your in Animagus form, well spotted shlomo. :D
     
  3. Lord Nemesis Black

    Lord Nemesis Black Fourth Year

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    I was under the impression that when in an Animagus form wither or not you are bitten by a werewolf was irrellevant(spelling?).. Other wise how would James, Sirius and Peter be able to run around the forbidin forest with Moony on the nights of a full moon.
     
  4. Xiph0

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    I always figured Moony just ignored fellow animals unless his Alpha-ness was put into question.
     
  5. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Indeed. He probably just ignored them unless he felt threatened. Still... it would have been quite dangerous for them to do what they did without some type of protection for themselves... one bite and they'd be hairy once a month too which is a litte too reckless, even for them.

    So maybe it doesnt effect people when they are in their animagus form... interesting.

    Then again, this is the movie... how many stuff ups have they made in that thing?
     
  6. MysterioX

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    I think there something about a werewolf bite being harmless to other animals animagi or not in the third book not sure
     
  7. andiais

    andiais DA Member

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    In the book it's explained that the animaguseseses *hehe* kept moony away from people etc, so they would have had to interact physically with him, and he would most likely have fought to get to the things his curse makes him want to rend into tiny bite size chunks, no?

    That none of the otheer marauders became werewolves means that there is definately some reason that the werewolf curse cannot be passes to a witch or wizard in animal form.
     
  8. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    It's fairly interesting. I might have to use this in a story sometime. Explain that wizards/witches arent effected by the werewolve curse in their animal forms... might be the first step towards a cure if you can find out what the curse effects, why it effects that, ect, ect...
     
  9. Yarrgh!

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    Quotes from Book 3:

    "They couldn't keep me company as humans, so they kept me company as animals," said Lupin. "A werewolf is only a danger to people."

    "Under their influence, I became less dangerous. My body was still wolfish, but my mind seemed to become less so while I was with them."


    I guess that a Werewolf is more docile around animals...perhaps the reason that it is dangerous is that it has an inborn tendency to rampage amongst humans, while ignoring or acting peaceful with other species.

    That would give credit to the "Werewolves can only infect humans" theory.
     
  10. BlueMagikMarker

    BlueMagikMarker Pirate King Yarrgh's First Mate

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    Perhaps the reason that it is only violent around humans is because the wolf part of the werewolf is fighting against the human side. If this were the case, then the illogical wolf side of the werewolf would strike out at anything resembling human as it cannot attack itself, most likely in attempt to become the dominant piece of the werewolf's psyche. If we took this a step further, you could say that the more humans that a werewolf conquers, the more the wolf takes over their mind.
     
  11. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    ahhhh...logic.

    Something that seems to missing in many a writer these days.
     
  12. Randeemy

    Randeemy Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    I am pretty sure that in animal form you cannot become a werewolf. The risk would have been far too much, even for the 'crazy' marauders
     
  13. Naga's Shadow

    Naga's Shadow Seventh Year

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    They must have been imune in animal forms, after all even if Remus wasn't enraged by their prescene he still is a wolf and wouldn't take knidly to a black dog and dinner (a stag) standing around with him. I assume that untill the wolf got used to, and understood he couldn't beat, the marauders he would have been quite violent.
     
  14. Randeemy

    Randeemy Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    What worried me about this bit, is

    A: Peter used a Wand for his animagus transformation (I always thought it was done without wand)

    B:) When Peter transformed, his clothes got left behind. Why did that not happen when he last transformed?
     
  15. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    With or without a wand doesnt matter. It can be done bothways probably. Sirius did it without a wand in Azkaban. Why would a wand stop the affects?

    That clothes thing was retarded. Why Harry didnt just blast him with a spell I'll never know.
     
  16. Skeletaure

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    I would say that Wormtail needed the wand to undo the spell on him stopping him from transforming.

    As for the clothes being left behind, that was probably an example of Wormtail's lack of skill compared to Sirius and M.M.
     
  17. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Noooo, it's the movie creators being idiots.
     
  18. Hellsing Boy

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    There you go again. I've said it before, don't try to apply logic to Harry Potter, you'll only get a headache:)

    And, even though the werewolf in folklore isn't violent to most creatures other than man, why wouldn't a wolf be tempted to attack a potential meal, like a stag?
     
  19. mcatrage

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    wow hmm every time i see that scene i always think that peter is going to kill himself so he couldn't be captured.

    guess that sort of is out of character but thats just what i always assume that was what he wanted to do
     
  20. KANE

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    This is one of the things i hate most about harry potter books. If you look at this example, when wormtail gets away from the group, there is absolutely NO reason why neither sirius or lupin could not have stunned peter and brought him up to the castle while he was unconscious. Throughout the books, there are hundreds of ways that things could be done easier by using certain spells that could stop so many bad things happening (using a portkey for dumbledore to get to/from the ministry in PS, dumbledore using leglimency to see the parseltongue messages harry heard in COS, stunning peter in POS). I mean, i understand why all these things were done, JK could hardly write about spells that she hadn't made up yet, but in general all these plot holes just piss me off.

    ps. Sorry, maybe not the best place to put this rant but you were talking about how peter got away and i just thought it might be appropriate at this point.
     
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