True, and Ned beheaded the deserter himself. IDK, maybe Robb decides on turning Jon over to Mormont just as a plot-hole to keep Jon alive

 

This is dumb. As King in the North he also has the right to release him from his vows. Which, oh wait, he actually does in canon.

 

Aye Jon totally mishandled the whole wildling PR situation that being said I don't believe Robb's entire downfall was mishandling allies. His inability to delegate to a competent subcommander cost him heavily when he gave Roose Bolton command of the foot and Roose had ulterior motives from the start (aka using no Bolton men during the battles and bleeding the other Northern houses dry) Edmure Tully was another commander with questionable strengths who cost him most notably at the mill (once again somewhat of Robb's fault for not explaining the tactical and strategic importance of allowing Clegane into the Riverlands.)

I believe Jon's influence will be twofold, it will give Robb an adviser who he trusts implicitly due to their familial ties as well as giving Robb someone who will not become enamored with the "Young Wolf". Near the end of Robb's reign he was surrounded by a lot of Northern Lords who had full confidence in all of his plans. Being surrounded by yes men does nothing for a good leader. Jon should be a foil and a conservative one at that due to his nature that should check some of Robb's more aggressive and boneheaded decisions.(Karstark, Jeyne) etc.

This doesn't mean it will be a omg Jon Fix's all fic. Jon is entirely capable of giving shitty counsel and fubaring things up as well, but if you are expecting a Red Wedding 2.0 with Jon in the campaign from the very beginning well then you are sadly mistaken.


As a further aside, I really don't know where or how or if it all I should incorporate Jon's parentage. We all know the real parents or if you haven't yet re-read the Tower of Joy passage from Eddard in AGOT

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Indeed he does, not only does Robb release him but he legitmizes Jon and names him his heir in canon. I don't fully understand why people think Robb would kill Jon would had fled his vows. Far more likely he would just say fuck those vows lets avenge our Pops.

 

I don't recall a Night's Watch brother ever being released from his vows, eventual death notwithstanding, king or no king.

I wonder what Jon would have to say to Catelyn when she releases Jaime. That is, provided he doesn't cower from her all the time. Honestly, just get over the tetchy cunt, Jon. It's far too fucking boring to read about how he respected her or just sullenly took in her scorn and hate.

Eddard + Lyanna = Jon

It is known. The Starks breed true and no southern trout shall sully the North with its spawn.

 

The only true way.

 

I had this idea of instead of going to the Wall Jon leaves for Essos to start his own path in life. He travels to all of the major cities helping out people when he can (RPG style, yo), he might find his way to old Valyria and come across a Valryian steel sword (cause everyone cool has one). He spends some time as a sellsword and might even create his own small company. Eventually he hears of everything that has happened to his family and sails back to Westeros to get vengeance with some sellswords at his back (like Aegon VI eventually does). It's a work in progress. It's so hard keeping all the characters in order.

My rec: Winter's Child is a story where Stark's are much more heavily involved with the Blackfyre rebellions.

 

There's already a fic about Jon going to Essos instead of the Wall.

 

Is it any good? And a link pls is you have one.

 

I forgot the name but I'll try and find it. It's decent but updates are sporadic.

Edit: Found it
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9004513/1/Far-away

Summary: AU, WIP. Jon goes the opposite way, to Essos instead of the Wall. "For years he'd been dreaming of going to the East and join the Golden Company, with the Blackfyres and the men of the Free Cities. A place where no one would have cared what his name meant, and he could find his own way." Now with more Aegon, JonCon and general Targaryen drama.

 

That sounds awfully Mary-Suish. Mainly because Jon is too fucking naive to survive in a place that isn't the North, and let's not forget how he fares there. Most likely he'd get tricked by a pretty face and clapped in chains.

The bit with Valyria is just too super special snowflake syndrome for me.

 

Huh. Now that's actually an interesting idea.

Jon spends his whole life dreaming of traveling to the free cities, only to be captured by slavers soon after arriving. Then I don't know, stages a rebellion and takes over a city, eventually meeting up with Dany.

It would also provide a pretty valid reason for not immediately travelling back to Westeros. Kinda hard to visit the family when you're wearing a slave collar. Hell, it could be his reason for starting the rebellion.

 

The trick is to give Jon something as purpose to survive as a slave. Otherwise, he might just try to bullrush someone and escape, dying in the attempt.

 

Good point. Could tie it into why he was captured in the first place. Make the pretty face significant in some way, and have answers he needs to live to find.

I realised this is also amusingly meta, because the actor playing Jon just played a slave in Pompeii.

 

Let us never ever speak of the Gormless One again, for I would not have his face taint the mental imagery of what Jon Snow ought to look like.

That said, it might work best if his purpose for living on, surviving as a slave, was something related to his parentage. He always did want to know about his mother after all.

Could be he was tricked by a former Westerosi girl into drinking wine that was laced with something, could be she was telling him a partial truth to lull him into relaxing too much.

I wonder though what kind of a slave would they try to make him be. They probably wouldn't give him access to weapons or anything of the like. And then there's also the matter of Ghost. What to do with that?

 

Could go the Arya/Nymeria route and have Jon separated from Ghost when he's captured, with frequent dreams of being a wolf fitting in well with the parentage theme if the direction of the story went that way. Could also provide some much needed alternate settings than the depressing slave life.

As for what kind of slave, the easy route would be to go full on Gladiator. No real freedom to act like he would have in a slave army, but putting his skills to use for maximum profit.

As for the girl, I've probably been reading too much r'hllor related stories, because I keep wanting her to be a follower who set him on his path from what she saw in the fires. Probably a little too close to Tyrion at that point though.

 

A year old fic and 13k words.

Not to mention he has numerous other ASOIAF fics ongoing at the same time.

Yeah nah. This isn't something you recommend, no matter how well written. Maybe in ten or twenty years when he's come halfway through with the story.

Considering this is Essos, it's not really that far fetched. She could be both someone he likes and wants to be with, but then she'd ask him every now and again to relinquish his worship/prayers/respect for the old gods of the North, and that could be one point of contention.

Gladiator, eh? Hmm. Possible, I suppose. I just can't see him killing for other people's entertainment though.

The separation sounds good too, but how would Ghost fare in such a drastically different climate though? Does Essos even have anything like the winters that Westeros does?

 

Hmmm?

A Song of Ice and Fire/Gladiator crossover???

Are you not entertained?!?!?!

 

If you want to send Jon to Essos, why not make him want to join a sellsword company like Second Sons. After all, Jon's ancestor Rodrik Stark served with them, so it could be believable that after hearing about that Jon decides to try himself in sellsword life? And him ending as a slave would be a consequence of this choice.

 

Pretty sure I've read all of those Jon Snow storylines already. Let me see if I can find them and if they're worth recommending.

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EDIT: Okay, found them. None of them are amazing, mind you, but all of them are somewhat competently written and readable. Decent timewasters.

'Far away' has already been mentioned, so I won't link that.

Build a Ladder to the Stars is a Jon/Sansa one-shot where Jon joins Robb's campaign, and sneaks into King's Landing to rescue Sansa and Arya. Since Arya's already gone, he only comes home with Sansa. Rescuing her makes the incest absolutely a-okay, or something.

Found in Forbidden Night is basically the same story. Literally. I think they're both answers to the same prompt, which would explain the similarities. Again, Jon deserts the Wall, joins Robb, rescues Sansa, incest occurs.

Both are basically fluff pairing fics, in the 2-3/5 range. If I had to rank them, I'd probably say 'Found in Forbidden Nights' is better, but neither are really good.

allies in a time of war is actually somewhat recommendable, because it isn't a pure pairing fic. Some interesting takes on what would happen in the war with Jon's presence, but still very much a fix-it fic.

It's by the same author as 'Far away', but it's completed. According to the author, a sequel is in the works, but judging by their works section, it will be a looong time before anyone will read that.

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None of those fics are library worthy, and 'allies in a time of war', the best of those, would probably barely make the recycling bin. They are, however, all stories about Jon leaving the Wall and joining with Robb. You guys seem to be looking for that.

 

So I found this: Shadows of the Trident. It's on that alternative history website so you need to be a member to see it but that doesn't take too long to do.

Basically both Robert and Rhaegar die at the Trident which results in the rebellion ending and Aegon becoming king with the High Lords serving as regent in turns. Anyway there are a lot of divergences and Jon grows up as Jon Waters while Viserys continues to be an arse.

The author's said that it is largely going to be the Anarchy in Westros so you know more or less what will happen if you are familiar with that bit of English history, but it's the first multi-chapter story I've found where Jon grows up in King's Landing and worth a look if you're interested in a pretty massive AU.