1. DLP Flash Christmas Competition + Writing Marathon 2024!

    Competition topic: Magical New Year!

    Marathon goal? Crank out words!

    Check the marathon thread or competition thread for details.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Hi there, Guest

    Only registered users can really experience what DLP has to offer. Many forums are only accessible if you have an account. Why don't you register?
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Introducing for your Perusing Pleasure

    New Thread Thursday
    +
    Shit Post Sunday

    READ ME
    Dismiss Notice

Almost Recommended VI

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Minion, Feb 9, 2013.

Not open for further replies.
  1. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2011
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Two blocks from the beach.
    High Score:
    2,249
    Funny, as a Polyamorous Man, I've seen more than one situation where it was pretty damn close.

    The smarter thing to say would have been 'It's not always male wish fulfillment'. There are all sorts of dynamics and lifestyles and practices out there amongst people of a.. kinkier bent. To assume that your experience is the defining state of all similar situations is either ignorant or arrogant.
     
  2. The Iron Rose

    The Iron Rose Chief Warlock

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1,439
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    Toronto
    True, but there's a pretty fundamental difference between the vast majority of polyamorous relationships and harem fantasies.

    Regardless, the last thread was literally just closed because of incessant debates on things not germane to the thread, let's not go 2 for 2.
     
  3. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2011
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Two blocks from the beach.
    High Score:
    2,249
    Fair enough, and a good point.
     
  4. Lamora

    Lamora Definitely Not Batman ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2009
    Messages:
    118
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    New York
    High Score:
    1072
    I'm gonna have to throw in my favorite Taure quote of all time and say that most of these over-sexualized AUs and harem fics are in fact most likely written by 12 year old boys in bathtubs full of their own semen.
     
  5. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2010
    Messages:
    820
    I think dirty old men syndrome has a bigger share of these harem pedo stories than you or Taure assume(d). Just check who writes these big Harmony/Luna stories. They aren't young male/teenagers.

    zArkham is a good example for this group I suppose.
     
  6. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,022
    Location:
    Where idiots are not legally permitted to vote
    High Score:
    3,994
    Kinsfire is the most egregious example.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2013
  7. bob99

    bob99 High Inquisitor

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2011
    Messages:
    533
  8. Sn0rkack

    Sn0rkack Professor

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2011
    Messages:
    477
    Location:
    Long Island - 631
  9. c0q

    c0q First Year

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    24
  10. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    494
    Location:
    Germany occupied Greece
    High Score:
    4495+2362
    *sees above posts*

    Stahp. Please.
     
  11. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,022
    Location:
    Where idiots are not legally permitted to vote
    High Score:
    3,994
    I'm going to break with tradition and offer a story rec, one that was mentioned briefly in the Recommended Crossovers thread. (On the plus side, the story appears to have little to do with polyamorous relationships or harems.) A Google search indicated that it has not been discussed in this thread.

    The Traveller
    Author: tthorn
    Condemned to die, Harry Potter grasps life. It will take him far away from everything he knows and change him in ways that many will tremble to see. He will witness the war to end all wars and in it he shall make a name that will last until all life in all the worlds ceases. Multicrossover Powerful, Political Harry
    Rated: Fiction M - English - Adventure/Supernatural - Harry P. - Chapters: 15 - Words: 76,866 - Reviews: 606 - Favs: 1,007 - Follows: 1,130 - Updated: 02-15-13 - Published: 09-26-12 - id: 8558584

    Apparently, the HP/LOTR portion of the story is the first in the author's grand plans for an "epic" multi-cross; I don't hold out a lot of hope for success in this grand ambition, but he does have a fair chunk of words written so far for this first crossover.

    The story opens with Harry tossed through the Veil for contrived reasons (his Cruciatus curse in the DOM, Dumbledore abandoning him), arriving in Middle Earth in the early part of the War of the Rings and eventually building a power base with one of the Blue wizards as a third front in the war. Amusing circumstances early on cause him to despise Gondor and be sympathetic to Sauron.

    I find elements of the plot and premise to be interesting, as I've not seen "Harry as Black Númenórean" done before in any semi-competent way. The overarching law/chaos/balance deity framework for the story (above the LOTR pantheon) is, at some level, workable, though perhaps too convenient in explaining away how Harry can get away with having no compunctions whatsoever for what amounts to some pretty heinous decisions on his part.

    On the downside, the writing is bland and I find myself unable to become invested in Harry or anyone else in the story. It's essentially a Harry-in-Name-Only tale, where Harry instantly turns into an amoral badass bastard who betrays and backstabs when it suits him. Were he to have arrived at such a state through the weight of experience, I would celebrate the transition, but here he was pretty much throwing around Unforgivables from the moment his boots hit Middle Earth ground.

    One scene in particular turned me off:

    At one point, Harry's betrothed, which whom he's developing a rapport of sorts, begs him to spare her father, a leader in a rival city. Harry agrees, yet a chapter or so later, he conspires with her younger brother to not only have their father assassinated, but also to have the younger brother fingered as the mastermind and killed as well as he stages a coup and takes over their city, setting his wife-to-be on the throne. This double-betrayal has no consequences whatsoever in the story, no change in his relationship with his fiancée, no hint of guilt on Harry's part as an oath-breaker. While I grant that the world he's in is a harsh one, requiring some draconian behavior if one is to survive, the lack of any response on his part pretty much sealed the character as only wearing Harry's skin and name.

    On balance, an interesting story premise suffering from weak characterization and, in places, contrived plotting. I suspect most here will find it Almost Recommended, perhaps at the lower end of the range. (It falls between 2/5 and 3/5 for me.)

    Edit: typo fix.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2013
  12. KGB

    KGB Headmaster

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    1,067
    I read it a while back and hardly remembered what happened in it. There is an interesting premise and plenty of things going on, but it's written in such a flat way that nothing sticks with you.

    This story reminds me of The star empire(and the billion other versions the author has posted). A completely unlikable Harry thrust into an interesting world, ruined by execution.

    I would still recommend it to anyone that is interested in a lotr xover, that is not about the fellowship or bumming Legolas.
     
  13. melior

    melior Seventh Year

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2011
    Messages:
    226
    I feel like I should point out that people don't become asexual as they age, despite what children might think of their parents. I shouldn't have looked too closely at some of those profiles, though.

    To me, the opposite issue is odd, too: there are a few middle-aged authors that have their characters freely admit to each other what they are and are not ready for sexually. It usually involves waiting for marriage (or legal marriage, since many of them involve Soul Bonds as well), as if some arbitrary date is better than any other time. I get the feeling that they are parents themselves and choose to be willfully ignorant of what they (or at least others their age) were like back then.

    EDIT:

    On topic: I've actually downloaded The Traveller, but never got too far because of Harry's characterization in the first chapter. Maybe I'll give it another shot, though.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2013
  14. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,839
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    High Score:
    13,152
    The biggest problem with The Traveller for me was that I just got bored. I found myself skimming huge chunks of text.
     
  15. NoxedSalvation

    NoxedSalvation Temporarily Banhammered

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    893
    Location:
    Germany
    "The Traveller" is nearly unreadable. I felt myself getting dumber digesting all those awkward sentences, deciphering tons of obscure orthographical errors and enduring horrible plot holes.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2013
  16. h2o

    h2o Professor

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Messages:
    446
    The Traveller is pretty much bang on for the Almost Recommended thread. The writing is okay but this Harry is just completely unlikeable. And that's just the start of its problems.

    Harry goes from being executed in the veil to wanting to side with Sauron instantly... until he gets his own city. He's using the Killing Curse without remorse AND torturing a man into insanity with the Cruciatus Curse. There's no transition at all, its just instant and even if the development happened over time it'd need a better writer.

    I'm torn because there's potential but the author is intent on having Harry sticking with this town of Jaffa where there are no interesting characters at all. Let me see Rohan or Gondor, these are the people that should be Harry's Allies and there are characters there that we know from the original books/movies. Then there's the Blue Wizard who's just the worst cliché of the whole story. He just shows up 1000 years after his last sighting and instantly Harry trusts him and is all chummy chum chum. I'll admit that the Darkness is an interesting concept but, on its current path its a Guilty Pleasure at most.
     
  17. Alexeyy

    Alexeyy Seventh Year DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    Messages:
    239
    Location:
    Россия-Мать
    Gemini by Shadow Rebirth.
    Bring the world to boil, add corrupt governments, repressive laws, unhappy Muggleborns, an evil Dark Lord, and stir well with a determined time-traveling wizard. World domination has never been easier. Now if only Harry didn't have to clean up the mess... [Time travel, no pairings.]
    Harry Potter - Rated: T - English - Adventure - Size: 9/40,195 - Reviews: 130 - Published: 9/1/2012 - Updated: 3 weeks, 5 days ago (bimonthly) - Harry P.

    Potentially awesome. There are two Harry Potters, one is canon Harry at school, another - a time traveller running around and causing mayhem. Possibly deus-ex-machina mercenaries, and could spin out of control. Still, way better than other recent time-travel stories I've come across.
     
  18. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,022
    Location:
    Where idiots are not legally permitted to vote
    High Score:
    3,994
    I read this this weekend and agree that it's well placed here in the Almost Recommended thread. I think the author does a good job with keeping the original timeline Harry appearing authentic, but I find the other Harry to be a bit over the top at times in terms of mad skills and the like. Also, there are some plot inconsistencies (e.g., Dumbledore never seeing through his invisibility cloak) that are a bit annoying.

    I'll probably rate it a 3/5 based on what's written and will be following it in the future.
     
  19. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    176
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    High Score:
    3,164
    I really wanted to like Gemini when I realized that the author was writing another HP fic, but... either my standards went up or her writing got worse.
     
  20. Rache

    Rache Headmaster

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,156
    Location:
    DLP
    'Reducto's on three' by Lily meet Ginny.

    An entirely plausible crack fic that depicts an alternate ending to GOF.

    Summary:As Harry and Cedric stood in front of the cup, little did they know that one different spell could change everything. Set during the Third Task.

    Link: Here
     
Loading...
Not open for further replies.