This does not make TMNT town. He has yet to address this:

 

Fair point, it's infallible and if he gets night killed he saves the life of another towny, so it's a situation you can't really lose in. Maybe he didn't want to sacrifice himself, but that's not really beneficial to town.

 

Hrm.

Well, I guess we could try Elemental?

I'm also always down for lynching Banks.

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I'm definitely not lynching TMNT with that claim.

I think he should target into the sketchtastic pool.

 

Mod note:

Mod information from your private QT - either your role PM, or information from the Mod, cannot be copied directly into the thread. You cannot fake such information through formatting or implication. As a player, you may present role information as either true or fake IF such information is presented as being paraphrased.

Spirit of the game version: Don't mention your fucking QTs. As either alignment. Either truly or falsely. Just don't do it. Whatever information you have or don't have, don't try to make it look like it's anyone other than you saying it, no matter if this is true or not.

This is an attempt to control past and future things said and not saying anything about anyone's alignment, etc.

Don't mention your QTs.

Don't mention your QTs.

For those of you who still don't get it,

Don't mention your QTs.

 

I don't know, it's really weird to me that TMNT claimed like that and that he waited until now.

 

I'd like to see TMNT's response first but I do have some thoughts on him I'll share after.

 

I don't know why people are so obsessed with Quality Technicians. I didn't realize QA was such a big deal in mafia.


#dadjokes

 

I wanted to relax, let you guys play around a bit and comeback afterwards ..

But i feel like mentioning something, because I can, and it might help solving and all that.

A not so wise man once said :

I am not saying that i quoted this out of the rules at the start of the game, but i might have.

Anyways medium complexity in this case means that the game is slightly more complex compared to the classic mini-mafia games that were played on this site before.

Soooo now lets look at those setups. I will just quote the post of one of the wisest men i know (from the hannibalmafia game) :

So the main difference here is that we are playing with 16 players instead of 13, but the amount of prs are unlikely to rocket into the sky. There might be one more town pr at best, and that depends mostly on the overall strength of the town prs (strong prs = less prs, most of the time)

The number of town prs we have claimed so far :
Snowvon - Reporter - confirmed
Fontisian - Dayvigi with a twist - confirmed (i dont think anyone doubts her to be town)

ljtrigirl - Ascetic
Demonturtle - Tracker
Koalas - ??? (we only know he used an action on fontisian last night)
TMNTurtwig - Neighbourizer + twist

6 claimed town powerroles is at LEAST one too many, more likely to be two.

The classic formula for setups like this would be at least one information role, one offensive role and one defensive role + x to balance out what mafia has.
We know that the mafia had a rolecop, that turned roleblock, once he finds a pr.
Considering the fact that Fonti AND LJ claimed unblockable roles and the fact
that both Von and TMNT have roles that you do not actually want to block as scum.
Vons role is basically innochild if he ever needs to claim and TMNT is a role he most likely would use n1, even is scum find him they cannot block the same night (wording of the role says "on future nights").

Just from that point of view TMNTs claim looks .. off.

If he is real, then there is scum between demonturtle and koalas, because 2 roles that can townfirm themselves and a tracker seems like way too much on the information side of things.

Lorewise, it checks out, it is a very minor role in the book, so are demontrutles/Vons claimed roles, which makes it hard to judge.
The fact that Citrus claimed a minor townsided role, that was a good fit for his rolecop claim, makes me believe that they have prepared fakeclaimes, so i do not want to judge too hard on that part.

I wanted to see how people react to the case and not post for a while, but town is going in a bad direction and i feel like stepping in.

Also the fact that TMNT did not tell fonti about the conditional part beforehand makes him look even worse.

I also don't think that the mods would use the same conditional on two different town roles. That is just boring modding, and Eido can do better than that.

With that being said

Vote TMNTurtwig

Oh yeah fonti, do you mind telling me about the twist in your pr?
If you had shot a town, would both of you die, or only you?
Does it act as a greencheck if you die and as a redcheck if the other person dies, or does the other person die either way?

Depending on the answer that is either a nerf of your role or a buff, and might be interesting to evaluate the other roleclaims.

 

Vote Count #2.3

TMNTurtwig (4): Plotless, fontisian, Elemental, Jan
Elemental (3): Tempus Fugit, TMNTurtwig, weiyaoli
ljtrigirl (1): Banks
Jan (1): ljtrigirl

Abstaining: Blorcyn, demonturtle, EvilOftenWins, Koalas

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to soft lynch, and 10 to hard lynch

Day 2 ends in ~24 hours at this time.

 

If I tried to shoot a town, I would have died alone.

 

Jan. Try to talk about something besides role mechanics and me being neutral please.

 

Thanks dear.

That makes you part information role, which makes the claim even worse.

Reporter, tracker, neighbourizer and part-time-vigi-cop-with--suicide-trigger.
That is too much for sure.

Also the suicide option doesnt make sense lorewise for TMNT.
He might not be able to target scum, but dying for it is not working well for the lore part.

 

I'm gonna go ahead and vote TMNTurtwig.

Everything from #583 to #594 just feels completely off. If we assume both TMNT and Elemental are both scum, then to me it seems like the play here is to get TMNT a strong townread by 1) bussing Elemental and 2) claiming Conditional Neighborizer.

Even if they aren't working together, I feel like TMNT provides a bigger threat than Elemental does.

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With less than 24 hours left, we should probably get hustling to avoid a no lynch as well.

 

Jan I respect what you're trying to do but you're modgaming. That way lies madness (and false conclusions/confirmation bias).

 

What TMNT said is convincing. It looks like a very believable flavour text. Buuuut, I still think he's scum and he'll turn out to be the new god of media.

At this point getting him lynched and finding he's town would be pretty much as helpful. We could look at jan, and be way more confident about others.

VOTE: TMNTurtwig

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A fundamental question: we lynch someone at the end of the day. Do they still get that day's night?

 

Short information for everyone in this game.
I will be visiting a clinic to deal with some mental health problems starting tomorrow.

I will try to continue playing, if i realize that i cannot bring up enough time to play the game, then i will replace out.

That being said, the next 48 hours might be really busy, or rather sleepy, since part of it will include balancing some medication, and i know that can mess one up.

Do me the favor and don't let that information influence your read on me one way or another, just take my most likely reduced activity as what it is.

This was not planned when i joined the game, sorry for the inconvenience.

 

You might want to put the vote on a separate line.

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I don't think dead people can do much.

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Just one more vote folks. We don't want a no lynch.

 

There is a zero percent chance of a no lynch. Your enthusiasm is noted however.

 

Vote: TMNTurtwig

You aren't answering Fonti's questions. Its not the time to be MIA.

 

Vote TMNTurtwig