Vote ljtrigirl

 

How desperate are we right now?

I may have something that can help.

 

All cards on the table I was fully expecting a third party LJ that left the game when shadow died. So I think today's first priority should be on Jan.

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... you didn't share this yesterday why?

 

Because I didn't have it yesterday. Think Tempus' power, with the 2 night thing.

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Here's the thing. I'm Odin/Mr Wednesday. Town Universal Backup. And I took Fonti's power.

I'd like everyone's arguments so as to why I shouldn't shoot you.

 

Rubicon replaces weiyaoli effective immidiately.

 

Good evening!

I'll do my best to catch up shortly.

Are there any major things I should know about?

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Shooting Koalas sounds promising, but let's wait until later in the day.

 

Hey Rubicon.

Can I get a read from you on what's happened? I know that it takes like 2 hours to read the thread, so don't rush yourself.

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Tempus - Target-based Innocent Child. Samantha Black Crow.
Koalas - Protection based JOAT. Says flavour will be posted soon.
LJ - Ascetic. Loki
Rubicon - VT. Mr Nancy.
Jan - ???
Evil - ???

Some claims would be appreciated.

 

I never posted that? Oh.

Flavor paraphrased. I'm Hinzelmann, my home is Lakeside and the town prospers for it. Some would say by.. dubious measures. But children get lost in snowstorms all the time don't they?

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Reasons not to shoot me I am never scum in a town Elements world.y

 

I'm Bilquis and vanilla town. An old god who is a prostitute with good intentions

 

I should be caught up completely by tomorrow evening at the latest, hopefully sooner.

Thanks for the list of claims. Some of them are very interesting, like Koalas and Tempus.

Why did you take fonti's power?

 

The problem with my power is that it takes 2 nights to activate, meaning that it's not unlikely that I die in the act of choosing a power. The only other power was Von's which was pretty bad. I figured that I may as well get on with it while I could.

 

It seems to me that Koalas should have been lynched by now for probably being the mafia neighborizer.

I've only skimmed a few things, though. Is there a compelling reason to think he's town?

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Citrus' role block power was fairly limited.

 

It'd require a second one shot role block on the scum team. A one shot that I wasted on Elements of all people. Additionally it'd require terrible play on my part in not properly justifying the neighbourizer to Fonti AND giving the claim to TMNT in order to not save him.

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Plot less' claim also makes LJ's considerably more believable. Hmm.

 

Does your role specifically include the words Jack of all Trades?

 

vote evil

There is no way that you can read what went down yesterday and think I am evil.

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I was fully prepared to come into today gunning for Jan, but evil's out of the gate vote on me is just ridiculous.

You're basically cleared at this point, btw.

 

Hello! And Welcome aboard Rubicon!

What a giant clusterfuck our sweet little town is.
When i woke up tonight and read all this I was about to ragepost, but i decided to not do that, sort my thoughts and do it now!

First things first:
If you feel that I am scum, feel free to shoot me, it will result in you dying and me being confirmed, and then dying in the coming night, because there is no way to actually save me at that point.

If you actually feel like shotting me, let me know ahead of time, i can make a case for why I am town, but right now i feel more like searching for scum, and figuring out how to fix this.


Plotless claim :
I am assuming you are real, you can proof it yourself today, so not need to think about that.
There is only a single world where you are scum, in that one you shoot your remaining scumbuddy today, and have to explain afterwards why you are alive tomorrow as only "confirmed" town. We do not care about that world, but there is something that i want to tell you for the future:

If you had claimed yesterday, we could have slept instead of lynching, you would have been protected by elemental that night and we would not have the giant problem we have right now.

While we suddenly have 2 kills today, we did not gain more kills overall.
We have to use both kills today or plotless dies tonight.

The downside of using both kills tonight is that we will go down from 7 to 5 people today, with a scumkill tonight we go down to 4, at which point we lose to a world of 2.
If there are 2 scum alive, we have to hit today.

Tempus, if he is real, will have the result tomorrow, and if he is fake we lose the game.

So yeah that is the bad news.

Since Rubicon mentioned it, lets talk ...


Koalas / claimed Not Jack of only 1 trade, but that involves two ways to save a life
Koalas is town in all worlds but two.
World one, he is neighbourizer, and has the roleblock as 2nd ability, most likely after using the other ability (similar to citrus).
World two, he has a partner that either has a roleblock OR is the backup for citrus.
That world might be the more likely of the two, because town has a backup as well.
It also would explain why elemental is the one who got blocked, because he might have been the n1 check of Koalas partner.

That being said, in all other worlds koalas is town.
The biggest problem is that he got tracked to fonti n1.

Talking about dropbears...
Can you explain your comment about Lj, Koalas ?

I don't get why the one claim affects the other one.


Next off ..


The Case of the dirty Penguin:
If we use the shot and lynch today, then we have to decide on the casa tempus today.
We can only use the shot (no lynch today), and get a confirmed town one way or another, but that would most likely just mean that said confirmed town dies in the night.
Still a doable play, because that way we can get the tempus info tomorrow.
Town has to decide on that one, and we should decide soon, because the rest of the day depends on that decision.

Possible play here is, tempus claims who he targeted last night, we shoot someone else (shooting that person would be stupid, because if tempus is scum he will just name a town). We sleep ..
Then scum has to decide between killing the confirmed town (after the shot, that would be plotless or his target), or killing tempus, who might become confirmed town the next day.
I have not thought every possibility of that play through, but it might work out.
You can think about it as well, if you want to.


What I want from YOU ...
I would like everybody to give their strongest reads with reasoning, soon.

I will do the same, but since i have to leave my pc really soon, it will take around 20 hours, because i hate phoneposting and will avoid it if i can.

 

Ok. My town circle is still Plotless and Tempus. Koalas can join too.

wei's towncred is fast sliding with me. The fact that Elemental was town means that my reads for the past few days have been totally off. But his and TMNT's stances on each other just felt so co-bussy.

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Koalas like never has a roleblock and neigborizer, Jan.

If a different scum flips with a roleblock, I might reconsider.

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Wait. That actually means I'm on auto.

 

Not sure how likely that is. 5 scum in 16p would be a lot.

All in all, world #1 seems quite reasonable to me. Citrus' roleblock power is very limited. Koalas was tracked to fonti on a night when we know she was targeted by mafia. His defense is that he can only be scum if he made mistakes. But people do that.

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I agree about the first two right now.

 

You're going to need a lot of convincing to make me think Koalas is scum at this point. The likelihood that a) scum had another roleblockers and b) they used it on Elemental is really slim.