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WIP Awaken Sleeper by Water Mage - T - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Memory King, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Capitalise your Is you fucking queer.
     
  2. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    need moar. going through withdrawal here man.
     
  3. Iztiak

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    I hate you! I thought it was updated... :(
    Save comments like that for a private message please.

    On the other hand, how far along are you with the next chapter?
     
  4. Ryuugi Shi

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    Dude, he doesn't even update in this Thread.

    Or did your post get moved here from the other Thread. If so, sorry.
     
  5. Skeletaure

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    This last chapter was absolutely kickass: plot progression, action, good characterisation. Not a single thing wrong with it. Looking forward greatly to Harry learning more about the Dresdenverse.
     
  6. Jearom

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    I agree with Taure. This is what plot progression is supposed to look like. Who says you have to have filler to advance your story?

    Hrm, will Harry be able to teach Potter magic to Elaine?
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    It's possible that he wouldn't be able to, since Potter wizards are born, not made, though I guess Elaine could be one without knowing or something...
     
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    Two different worlds and two different systems of magic. The obvious answer would be 'no' if they can use each other's magic. Though, magic is magic; maybe Harry and Elaine can do a very small amount of the other's kind of magic.

    Oh, and great chapter. I was starting to go through withdraw.
     
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    Water Mage++ I was starting to think you'd abandoned us. Harry/Elaine interaction was great and the mind-gaze was awesome. Update plox :3
     
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    Dresden magic is just a way of channelling magical energy, so I would assume Harry would be able to use it... to some extent. Though it takes a long while to get good at it.

    I'm not so sure about Elaine, because we don't know if she has an inner core of magic that is hers and hers alone. She is able to manipulate reality, not override it.
     
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    In before people saying "in before Taure".

    But yeah, Dresden magic seems to be something that anyone could do if only they know how and have the mental focus and will etc.

    Potter magic is something that even if you know how to do it and have the mental focus and will, you still can't do unless you're born magical.
     
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    Water Mage has already said that his HP has a magical core, so there was no point referencing your theory.
     
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    Awesome job, Mage, my man. The Soulgaze was done pretty well done, and I enjoyed Elaine and Harry interacting, though I dislike her character.

    Though, I do have a disinterest in Harry and Lily getting all chummy. I would have liked to see the outcome of that without it. It would have made an extremely interesting story.
     
  14. Philly Homer

    Philly Homer What you call elephant cum I call mouthwash

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    Excellent chapter Water Mage, there isn't really anything to criticize. I liked Harry's reaction to his fight with James and Lily, getting laid definitely relieves most of your tensions. As others have pointed out the plot progression was a strong point in this chapter.

    I found Harry's reaction to Dresdenverse magic, particularly well done, especially Harry's failure at shutting down the soulgaze. It just shows that Dresdenverse magic isn't something that Harry can throw away. The Harry/Elaine interaction was pretty solid. I'm really curious as to how you handle the upcoming interaction between these two.
     
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    I loved the chapter. The interaction between Elaine and Harry was spot on. I do wonder if Elaine is sincere in her reason to help Harry out or is she just going to use him, for her means.
     
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    That was actually pretty awesome...

    For some reason I was expecting you to go the other way and have James be the rational one and Lily the angry wrathful one. James is usually the hot head in these situations but I can see lily being the one to loose control for your story.

    I'm wondering why harry didn't tell the Potters about their other son. It would be realistic in my opinion.

    It seem's cliche to keep it a secret just because Aiden seems to know more than he does. If nothing else, that should be setting off more warning lights in Harry's head than it has.

    That and the kid is on the brink of annoying in my opinion. His knowing looks, his secretive smiles, his mischievious glints... It all makes me wish harry would just break his teeth.

    If nothing else a veiled hint that Aiden is more than he seems to lily would be in order. Plus this way the other potters have someone else to split their focus on.
     
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    @Watermage: this chapter was simply orgasmic and full of win. I came in my pants.

    @Taure: I'm pretty sure that magic in the Dresden verse is similar to HP magic in that you can't go far without natural ability. It's said tons of times in DF that Harry has greater natural talent and power than the minor occultists who merely dabble in magic and only have one or two tricks up their sleeves, and indeed most wizards. I do not believe magic in DF is something anyone can pick up and, with enough studying, be comparable to someone like Harry, Elaine, Molly, or the White Council and other powerful mages. You have to have a certain amount of latent ability to go far.

    I don't feel like skimming the book for specific passages but I remember this being referenced at least a dozen times over the course of the series so far. So if you have some time on your hands, you can open any DF book and find a few passages that support this.
     
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    Yes, it says that Dresden has more natural talent, but what is this but saying that he is more inclined to have a strong mental focus and will?

    In Dresden there doesn't seem to be a difference between performing a spell and the result: if you have the necessary will etc. then the spell will work for you, whatever your birth. The fact that some people are born with more talent than others (just as some are born with more intelligence, talent for music etc. than others) does not change the fact that it is mental focus that is the key factor.

    In HP you can perform a spell perfectly and nothing at all will happen unless you are born a wizard.
     
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    Kan has moar updates?
     
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    @Taure:

    You do have a certain point, the archive is a good example of this. Even though as a child she should have very little magic, her fight scene's do illistrate what kind of power she can fling about should she wish to.

    And Lucia mentions that natural talent she had in her old body that made it easier for her to make the swords. She mentions that she can regain the ability but it will take time even though her current body is not naturally gifted in the ability.

    But I don't think someone who studies magic for centuries, who was born with little magic, could make themself the merlin if they tried hard enough. Theres very clearly a certain point at which your a potential wizard and a practicioner.
     
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