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AYAW #2 - Return to Basics

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, May 4, 2014.

  1. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Snowvon, I would prefer that you not be scum. That doesn't really answer the question.

    Let's do some old-fashioned tunneling.

    Who's the scummiest player and why?
    Who is a player you hope isn't a werewolf?
    Who is a player you hope is a werewolf?
    Who is a player you hope is the Seer?
    Who is a player you really hope isn't the Seer?
    If you could day vig someone right now, who would you murder in broad daylight and why?

    *For other players trying to think of what to say...stop being so shy..and feel free to answer the above.
     
  2. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    Let's do some old-fashioned tunneling.

    Who's the scummiest player and why?
    besides lurkers? snow
    Who is a player you hope isn't a werewolf?
    lyrim, if you are your doing really well at emulating town game
    Who is a player you hope is a werewolf?
    me, i want to be a traitor warewolf who converts after the other 2 die
    Who is a player you hope is the Seer?
    rather not say, im activly hunting the seer actualy
    Who is a player you really hope isn't the Seer?
    see above
    If you could day vig someone right now, who would you murder in broad daylight and why?
    random.org would be the most fun
    but more seriously one of the lurkers
     
  3. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    (You were voting him at the time.)
     
  4. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I'm going to try and answer these without condemning myself for once.

    Scummiest player: I was thinking Sloth, for reasons already posted. And then I started wondering about ika. He literally voted for me because I wasn't being fluffy enough, and now he's convinced himself he's aware of some vague BS I'm trying to pull. It sounds like fishy shit.

    "Well why haven't you vOTEdDD for him herpa derp?? ?" Because I'll vote when I feel like it.

    I'm waiting for the OMGUS accusation. I have shat a brick in preparation and I am ready to facelaunch it at someone.

    Hope is town: Lyrium because she's my sunflower and is good at riling people up; Sloth because he posts a lot and it'd be nice if they weren't all scummy lies; Rubicon and ika and Citrus because they're great with words and I admire their plays.

    Hope is scum: Sloth or ika because then I'd feel like I'm making progress. Oh no they're in both of my "hope is town" and "hope is scum" categories. idc

    Hope is Seer: I'd really rather not draw attention to the Seer by speculating.

    Hope isn't PR: same.

    I'd kill: Dermon for the IRL lulz.

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    Answer the why.
     
  5. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    Now show me where in my process of voting him did i say he was scum or scummy. from what i recal i just wanted to have another lolz banwagon on running him up.

    can we try to solidify on at least 2 ppl here today though, the last thing i want to come into is a last miniute scamble for a hammer.

    I say one lurker and one active player unless someone else has any better ideas.

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    Hmmm seeing how you answered the questions and how this will draw a lot of attention then. Are you prepared to deal with that?

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 PM ----------

    Im willing to answer it, but you may not like my answer
     
  6. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I don't like attention. I just answered the questions honestly. I'll answer more if people have them.

    It's not about what I like, it's about being as sure as you can be lynching scum. If you are town and I am your top scumread, push on.

    There are only two wolves so the town can afford a good amount of mislynches. I don't feel like doing the math right now. I will fight to stay alive but if it comes to me being everyone's vote then it's not the end of the world. I'll die, people will question those who were on my wagon, maybe scum will get caught, rinse, repeat. Hopefully the Seer gets lucky sooner rather than later.
     
  7. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Major areas in which I disagree:

    Right now I've actually got a reasonably decent scum read on Maiden.

    I can't tell if you genuinely think those thoughts of me or are making things up, but your conclusions about me don't seem very reaonable to me.

    I'm not as happy as you are with LochNess, especially considering the early apologetics (in the group of lowest posters for the day).

    Agreed on Ika.

    Decent town read on Sloth. Actually I have a townread on snowven too, although the last few pages make me want to reevaluate and see if I feel the same way

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    My notes as of a few hours ago:


    Read wall (ordered):

    Citrus

    Snowvon
    Sloth


    Lyrium
    Ika

    Dermon
    Rubicon


    LochNess
    Maiden

    ?Atum?
    ?Burkion?
    ?TerRaine?
     
  8. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    then it comes to this for me: you are seer or you are wolf

    vote snowvon

    that is my only reason for even condiering you town now, that you are seer.

    you have made a complete 180 from the last game where you were obviously villager, you were more relaxed, carefree, and easy going, even in wifom, you had a certain vibe that you gave off that was plesant.

    here, your post to me read, stale, manufatured, almost forced. If you are still a villager, i doubt it or would liek to hear what casued this sudden drop.

    and not some bs "oh we re-rolled", i have droped quite a bit too i'll admit but here you basicly have left existance of the town vibe you usally give off.

    I mean when i did the sheep sloth wagon first time, you were going and laughing and having fun and everything, this time around after i tried it failed but you followed but kinda fifnt have that same sense of relaxed lols to it.
     
  9. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    oh my god

    excuse me while I. just. lie down for a few minutes

    i'll be right back, five minutes. and then another few minutes to write a post
     
  10. ika

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    citruts after reevaling snow where fo you rank him?

    im sill content on maiden as well.

    guts say lotch is town and if we still doubt it we can have a seer check to remove doubt
     
  11. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Honestly he pings town, but I'm not sure if I'm mixing pre-reroll in here as well. This early on I tend to operate more off gut reads and my gut said town.

    I'm doing some other things right now, but I'll do a post-by-post analysis in a few hours or so and if I think he's worth a vote I'll move mine. But right now I'm more comfortable with Maiden.
     
  12. ika

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    dont be swaping votes, thats a thing i only do jsut tell me what you think after it

    is he a seer or a wolf, i dont get that villager vibe from him so really the only thing i can see from him is seer/wolf, that is unless he can amp up his town game (which right now, is not impressing me)
     
  13. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Really not something we should be discussing openly if you're actually PR hunting there...
     
  14. Atum

    Atum DA Member DLP Supporter

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    Who's the scummiest player and why?

    ika, that back and forth with snow seems like something he'd do, but some of the same things that he's pointing out about snow's tone changing can be said of his posts after Rubicon points out that his trolling posts lack analysis/scumhunting back in #317. He might have changed even as town, but the defence he offers is weak imo.

    Who is a player you hope isn't a werewolf?

    Sloth, because if he is then I can't townread to save my life.

    Who is a player you hope is a werewolf?

    Lyrium, because if she is then this might just get exciting at some point.

    Who is a player you hope is the Seer?

    Mathblade. She has enough experience to (hopefully) be useful in that role, but not a good enough record to be a stellar target for an earlier NK.

    Who is a player you really hope isn't the Seer?

    Dermon. No offence meant but I'm really not sure how well he'd live up to that.

    If you could day vig someone right now, who would you murder in broad daylight and why?

    ika since he's my top suspect as of now and I don't think the vote is too likely to shift that way any time soon.
     
  15. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    You should just ask if I think he's a werewolf, not if I think he's a seer/non villager.

    Bad ika
     
  16. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    im not in my mood to be playing games, right now im more in a meh mood. so really its not a time to be giving me crap.

    im being blunt and straightfoward and at this time, im gonna be quick to enrage
     
  17. Dermon

    Dermon Muggle

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    Aww. . . I'm wounded.

    Ok, my top 3 scumreads right now are, in order of scumminess:

    Ika
    Snowvon
    TerRaine

    With the distinction that Ika and Snowvon are unaligned pairs: If one of them is scum, the other almost definitely is not. If a lynch on Ika is unlikely to go through, lynching Snowvon will probably be just as informative.

    Ika during this game has been trying extremely hard to emulate what he did before the re-roll, with his “I don't give a fuck” attitude, bandwagoning, and general dicking around. The problem with that is that unlike the first time he did it, this time it looks like a mask. He's trying extremely hard to look like his alignment hasn't changed, while in reality, he's dealing with a completely different set of motivations. Additionally, he never answered my question concerning his read of Rubicon.

    Snowvon, as of this posting, has the second-higest postcount in the game, but up until recently, had posted almost nothing of consequence. Additionally, many of his recent postings don't embody a town mindset.

    TerRaine looks like newbie scum for her enthusiastic barning of Sloth concerning Lochness, but her readwall is starting to bump her back up again. Her idea of checking the 2nd place lynch target I don't agree with, as I would target the town leaders first. However, I think this is probably just the “newbie”.

    Other unaligned pairs would be:
    Sloth and TerRaine: Even a newbie scum would never directly jump onto their buddy's target like she did. They are not knowingly aligned.
    Citrus and MathBlade: He forgot her from his list of reads. Scum usually have too much awareness of their teammates to commit such an error.

    So . . .

    Vote: Ika
     
  18. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    when was that asked?
     
  19. Dermon

    Dermon Muggle

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    Also, Citrus, what is causing your scumread on Maiden? In my opinion, there's not enough there to bump her out of the lurker category.
     
  20. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    ((Disclaimer: This post sounds angry but I'm not actually angry. But I do mean what I am saying. <3))

    Okay, so. First off, I actually find this hilarious. I thought this was going to be something concrete, something irrefutable. And instead I get a feelings post. I'm almost disappointed.

    Second, sorry, but no. I'm not the Seer. (Nor am I a wolf.) Although I'm curious as to what you'd say if I claimed to be. I'm very certain you'll think I'm lying either way. It doesn't really matter, I'd be dead ASAP. Be it mislynch or paranoid werewolf attack in the Night. Why are you even fishing for the Seer?

    I literally just went over this. I'm sorry my presence here bores you. Being pleasant isn't a switch I can flip on whenever I (or you) feel like it. If I'm being pleasant, it's because happen I feel pleasant IRL and want to share that with my friends. I honestly don't know what to say to you. If you're reading my posts in a completely different way, maybe it's because you're looking at them too hard. It's not like emotions are objective things you can stick in a post to quote later and say "see, you were feeling THIS EXACTt thing at that time!"

    You're going with the logic that because I'm not as fun as I was before, I must have something to hide. That's fair. It doesn't mean you're right. And, as I said before, I'm not trying to fake happiness, nor do I plan to in the future, because then when you call me out on it you'll actually be right. Right now I'm just posting in a neutral mood. I remember you telling me you "weren't in the mood" just a while ago. Why are you allowed to not be a bouncing lunatic all the time? More double standards from you.
    Maybe I'm not relaxed because this time around I'm getting prodded back? God forbid I get defensive. If I acted like a ditzy daydreamer for the entire game, I'd get lynched for not taking it seriously enough or something.

    Just. If you intend to get me lynched, at least do me a favor and have a less silly reason for it. If this is all the reasoning you have, take your vote off of me right now. (And you probably don't want to, now that I've told you to do so.)

    And this bullshit needs to stop:

    boo hoo you're not happy and bouncy and fluffy i'm personally offended so vote ika

    Switch ika with Snowvon and that is literally what your entire post sounded like. Fuck off with that.

    @everyone: If I get lynched and flip town, what are the odds of ika being scum?

    ---------- Post automerged at 23:36 ---------- Previous post was at 23:35 ----------

    @Maiden: You're lurking the thread right now and too many people are scumreading you for whatever imaginary reason. What say you?
     
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