Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by The Waco Kid, Dec 19, 2016.
Hey, I didn't agree to that.
I just think he's a wolf.
I very, very slightly think that Jarizok's AtE and stubbornness is more towny than Cobalt's AtE and lack of gamesolving-ness.
10 minutes to deadline
Any last thoughts?
This was a pretty bad game from me, but at least I cleared my slot.
If you're a wolf, GG you got me.
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Also I think I need to just, like. Idk, stop telling kids to get off my lawn and let them play like they wanna play. This means that /I/ can't play how I wanna play, but so it goes.
If he's town, lynch Jarizok. Thumb.
That's Hard lynch. Day is over.
Stand by for End of Day post
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"Holy underwear! Townspeople murdered! Innocent seers put to death! We've got to protect our phony baloney town ladies and gentlemen. We must do something immediately, immediately, immediately. Harumpf!"
"We didn't get a harumpf out of that guy!"
"Let's lynch him"
"Ok, I guess"
Cobalt has been lynched
F.D. Johnson, werewolf
Final Vote Count:
Cobalt (5): Snowvon, tom, Jarizok, Newcomb, Fontisian
tom (2): Miner11121, Cobalt,
Jarizok (1): Koalas
Night 2 ends in approx 48 hours
D3 Opening scene
(In the spirit of the holidays the whole town gathered in the town hall for a celebration) "Thank you all for coming out to celebrate this wonderful event, putting the recent deaths of of peers aside, in order to promote happiness, rather than looking to eat people's spleens. As your spiritual leader, I would to lead you all in a quick prayer before for we call it a night. These readings will be from the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke..." (Glass shatters as something is thrown through the window) "...and duck!" (BOOM!) In the aftermath of the explosion, the citizens of Rock Ridge look around the room to survey the damage. Sadly, one of their own is lying dead on the floor, as is his pet snake.
Snowvon has died in the night He was... D.D. Johnson, Vanilla town
Fontisian Newcomb r His Fluffiness Jarizok Koalas Miner11121 tom
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch
Day 3 ends in 48 hours
If fonti is a wolf, I am hard pocketed and I hope I reconsider in final 3 or whatever but I probably won't.
Seriously the timing of her backing off me when she did was just so townie.
If that was a play, it worked on me.
I will never not be convinced that cobalt's opening salvo wasn't meant to pocket von.
He is town.
For many other reasons too, but I have shockingly little confidence in my ability to read him.
So let's just focus on cobalt's hard pocket attempt and lock it in.
Miner still seems town to me, but he's been tunneling me for two days at this point despite the reasons evaporating.
So I'ma need something fresh today, even if it's an actual case on me.
Koalas has some stuff that's been townie, but has largely not been here.
Cobalt hypocritically throwing shade on his postcount could be distancing I guess. It was so random that there must have been a reason for it.
Needs to do stuff today too.
Jari follows up by going through quid and bill's cases on cobalt, which is not busy work, but its not quite original thought either.
This does read like a bus to me.
It's just kind of... you did this.
Like, this whole read, including the reiteration of old cases, just doesn't actually give cobalt anything new to respond to.
Which is largely how jari builds all cases, though.
And I'm not really seeing the profit in taking this tact:
...while bussing cobalt.
He removes a mislynch from his arsenal, and focuses himself in on lynching fonti.
Which is just... the path of most resistance probably.
The early cobalt/jari interactions were very antagonistic.
Cobalt blew everything jari said out of proportion.
It's just, if jarizok is a wolf here he made everything harder on himself.
I don't think he's doing anything fantastic, but he really seems to believe in it and blah blah confidence blah.
There's some interactions I don't love, but there's more that look like cobalt wanted to mislynch him.
I think I'm sticking with town here, but...
I am withdrawing my protection.
If Jari is gonna be wagoned today, he needs to stop it on his own.
This is what newcomb said about his cobalt vote.
And then he sort of spent the rest of the day halfheartedly trying to move the lynch elsewhere.
It's a bit strange, because I don't think anyone could say cobalt looked townie at all with the pressure on.
Doesn't really match with that stated method of reading cobalt.
And like, I want to say wolfnewcomb doesnt pull the "I can't believe he pulled that crap" but at the same time that's exactly the thought he would have had at the time if he was cobalt's buddy so I guess that's null.
It's super weird because his words would make you think he'd have been a force behind cobalt getting lynched but he just wasn't.
He voted jarizok and voted me and kind of backed off both of us too easily.
Still a pretty decent townread on solviness/progression but he does kind of make sense with cobalt.
Which is, I suppose, pretty significant when no one is actually wolfy.
He did, however, move his vote from me to cobalt with ~2 hours left in the day to take wagons from 3-3 to 4-2.
Town but not as lock town as he once was.
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So I did all this reading overnight and still came up with nothing but townreads.
My list is like:
Von was gonna be blue too.
Actually no idea who I want to lynch right now.
Tom is putting in more effort than I have ever known him to put in.
Not sure how I feel about this.
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Yo tom why is Jari blue for you? Your read on him in your first post (pre automerge) did not make him out to be very townie
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Also your town read of me feels more like "miner hasn't done shit in the past two days but I'm afraid to omgus him so I'll just call him town."
I've spent a little too long being a mild hindrance as town.
I'm working on it.
I feel like I've talked about my jari read plenty.
Yeah I think I'm sticking with my tunnel.
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Yes but the way you went about it made it seem like you weren't sure at all. But then you put him in blue.
The first part is true. You haven't done shit.
OMGUSing you would be pretty easy since you've literally done nothing but push town, but I'm not feeling it.
No reason the entire scumteam would tunnel me.
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Well yeah. I know for a fact I'm wrong somewhere.
But I put a bunch of thought into jari overnight and still landed on town.
I am still strongly convinced that you are the correct lynch.
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If dayend was in ten minutes and only you decided the lynch, who would you vote?
But I don't feel good about it at all.
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Miner, why are you wolfreading me?
I'll also say that if tom isn't the wolf then I think Newcomb deserves looking into.
I didn't like fluff's early rvs of Jari, referring back to the random flash wagon from HP mafia which he instigated may have been subconsciously trying to get people to town read him. Plus, Newcomb's case on tom was so legit to me that I've followed it. The fact that he didn't makes me wonder.
I don't think Jari is a wolf, because his AtE felt much more like town AtE than scum, esp. when compared with Cobalt.
Fonti will always be a big question mark for me... But right now, considering the people I'm suspicious of Ill read her as town.
Koalas... Needs to do something more. Build a strong case on me if you want dude. But like, right now you're still very null to me.
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1) I still dislike the day chat thing.
2) Your behavior is wholly inconsistent with either your scum or town play. Inclined to scum read this because IMO one should get themselves town cleared as endgame draws near.
3)you are reading everyone as town. This is a problem.
4) D1 seer comments. Ew.
5) You're exactly the type of scum Od expect to n1 someone like quid.
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Also Newcomb, I really did appreciate your advice in my first game, but maybe don't just read someone new based on how you expect them to play as either alignment and just let them play however if they don't want to listen.
Not saying you can't wagon them for it but just let em be sometimes.
1) before you thought it was a slip. so now you think it was a faked derpclear? thats fine.
2) you don't know my town game or scum game
3) yes its a problem for me too
4) see #2
Cobalt's flip had no bearing on your read of me?
I've played two games with you when you were town.
I've read a decent chunk of TH6.
Besides you really don't want me meta wolf reading you anyways.
Cobalt's flip made me reevaluate worlds.
Jarizok/Cobalt was extremely promising...except I stopped thinking Jarizok was scum and I also don't think both scum would AtE.
Cobalt/Koalas is possible but Idk because Koalas has less post count than BD= idk what to think about him.
Cobalt/font is not something I'm willing to consider today.
Cobalt/Newcomb is possible but I don't think Newcomb switches to Cobalt yesterday in that situation.
So I think you/cobalt is a fairly likely scenario.
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Also you're gonna have to tell me what faked derpclear and regular derpclears are.
Miner, even if I was knowable by 3 games, you obviously do not if you think the cop shit was in any way a scumtell or that my plan as scum would be to have one scumread and it be my partner.
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