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AYAW #4 - Rock Ridge

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Waco Kid, Dec 19, 2016.

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  1. tom

    tom First Year

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    I don't know what to tell you man.
    I don't have the solution.

    I caught one scum. I've so far not been lynched.
    Expecting more from me at this point is frankly ridiculous.
     
  2. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    I mean. You could tell me you think Koalas is mafia, or you could tell me you think Miner is mafia, and you could try to convince me how the game has gone, the overarching narrative, that makes that true.

    Like. We're at 6 players left. We have a confirmed mafia. You ostensibly know you're town. There's one mafia alive. The worlds we're living in that are even possible from your PoV are so limited that I just fundamentally don't buy you going "welp I've taken this game about as far as I can, goodbye cruel world, I'm town, GLGL."
     
  3. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Alas. He knows in his heart it isn't true.
     
  4. tom

    tom First Year

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    It is what it is.

    vote newcomb
     
  5. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Votecount 3.2
    tom (3): miner11121, fontisian, Koalas
    Newcomb (1): tom

    Abstaining (2): Newcomb, Jarizok

    Day 3 will end at this time (roughly 24 hours from now), or immediately after someone receives six votes.

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    derp

    after someone receives four votes

    six alive, four to lynch, etc
     
  6. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Anyone else want to weigh in here? Because otherwise I'm just hammering.
     
  7. tom

    tom First Year

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    Newcomb, which of your reasons for wolfreading me did I not refute?
    I thought I got all of them.

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    Also, I'd like you to read blackout mafia on mtgs for an example if scum me with something approaching this playstyle.
    I replaced thug as not_a_gimmick.

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    link
     
  8. Newcomb

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    Why are you talking to me like you think I'm town, and also voting me?

    You want me to go read an entire other game and carefully compare it to this game... but you also think I'm mafia? Think wolf!Newcomb is going to give you anything approaching a fair hearing?
     
  9. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Why are you asking questions you already know the answer to.
     
  10. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Because I don't actually know the answer.
     
  11. tom

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    You know I was never scumreading q for anything but interactions with bill, right?
    Like, I had no other case on q.
    There was no other case on q.
    But I thought they had w/w interactions to the point of calling them out on it when they were both in thread interacting with me instead of eachother.
    So you calling them hard unaligned for interactions after that struck me viscerally.
    Now obviously neither was scum. But you saying I wouldn't reconsider there when we actually talked about it is bleh.
    And when did you want me to take it further? When they were both dead town?
    Come on.

    You've spent this whole game going "man, if you weren't tom this would be really townie" or "this is usually townie but tom would do it" or whatever.
    And now you "want" me to be mafia.
    If you are actually town here, you need to get out of your fucking tunnel and accept that I am actually townie here. As townie as anyone here has ever seen me.
    You say I doubtcasted you? I sure did spend more time doubtcasting the cobalt townreads.
    You say I'm faking engagement? If I'm faking it why the fuck did I not fake a scumread or two?

    I just read your entire post about me, and it never says I am scum. It says I could be.
    Which, sure, is true.
    But townnewcomb sure would rather find someone that IS scum, not someone that could be or that he wants to be.

    Do not shrug and lynch me.
    Do not shrug and say "if not tom than fonti"
    It's lazy and it's wrong. And possibly wolfy.

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    Because if you're town this is your chance to prove it.

    Also I had 12 posts and got lynched d1. It'll be fine.

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    Listen. I get this is the bed I have made for myself.
    I have been occasionally dazzling as scum and consistently mediocre as town my whole career, and at some point I'm just always in the PoE.
    But there is no way I would be lynched in this game if I was someone besides me.
    Do you disagree?

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    Another thing.
    Self meta, but if no one is gonna bring it up I will.

    Yes I bus. But I always bus for profit.
    Tie people to my buddies or make myself look good or whatever.
    Someone tell me what I got out of a cobalt bus if you think were w/w
    Because it sure seems like all I got out of it was a scum lynch and the right to be wagoned the next day.

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    Fonti how am I doing at reading you?
     
  12. Newcomb

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    What do you think you've done that's so objectively towny?

    Listen, my case on you, and my case on fonti, is almost pure PoE. Like, yes, I think I've got you pretty nailed on the Monte Diamond but that's a read I'm 1 for 2 with you on, it's not, like, a lock to end all locks. And I also think the way you're talking about yourself "dunking a wolf" is pretty revisionist history. Like.. pretty much the whole game was talking about lynching Cobalt early D2. The fact that he was your only scumread is not exactly a point in your favor.

    I think Jarizok is town. I think Miner is town. I'm /pretty sure/ Koalas is town. I've given reasons for those. We have two kills. Unless I'm wrong on one of those, the game is /over/. Like, that's not lazy, that's just a fucking fact.

    If you're town, you need to realize that /I'm/ town, because brother if you want to talk scumrange then I am way the fuck out of mine.

    If you want me to not lynch you, GIVE ME SOMEONE ELSE TO LYNCH
     
  13. tom

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    Everything I've done is objectively townie because I am town and have lied about nothing.
    First time ever.
    And yes, I did make the vast majority of the case on cobalt.
    That is a thing that happened.
    People even restated my reasons as their own.

    What would be out of your scumrange is reconsidering on me here.

    And I don't think you could do it.

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    I would also like you to explain how fonti is scum and approached me how she did.
    That seems very important if your plan is lynch me then her, and you don't seem to have even considered it.
     
  14. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Tom.

    Brother.

    Snap your fingers, and we now live in a world where I buy everything you just said, including the fonti thing.

    Poof, we're all fucking clear blue town.

    Who. Do. You. Lynch.
     
  15. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but no town ever thinks I'm town.
     
  16. tom

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    No fucking idea.
    That's you and fonti's department

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    This is not the first time I have townread you while town.
    It will not be the last.

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    No, I want to answer this more.
    You want to lynch me and fonti by PoE.
    I want to NOT lynch font or me or jarizok.

    I'm voting you, but koalas and miner havent done shit and if everyone else is town lynch the useless.
     
  17. Newcomb

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    I'm looking at this now; are you talking about when she followed me onto you D1 for a hot minute, then went back to Bill Door, or another part of the game?

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    Let me rephrase that: which specific posts of fonti's where she's acting toward you a certain way, tom, are making you hard townread her?
     
  18. tom

    tom First Year

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    If fonti is scum she hard pocketed me on purpose, backing off me at important times each of the first two days, and then ruined it all for no goddamn reason by just changing for a song while showing awareness that it's bad for her if I'm town.

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    I'm not gonna go find the posts, because it's entirely a context thing.
    If fonti was a wolf, I'd have either been lynched yesterday or she'd have tried to save me for lylo. No in between.

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    That's not even mentioning the part where I fully believe she thought I was the cop eod1.
     
  19. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Wasn't I mafia?
     
  20. tom

    tom First Year

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    I do not remember because you replaced out and didn't give me a chance to see if it held true.
     
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