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AYAW #4 - Rock Ridge

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by The Waco Kid, Dec 19, 2016.

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  1. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I maintain that, in general, Von was more more active and stronger Day 1 then Day 2.
     
  2. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Yeah this is basically what I've been struggling with for the past 24 hours.

    tom, Kalas, fonti, only get to kill two, have to clear one.

    I don't think tom ever escapes the PoE; I think we just kill him, there are too many negatives / times I've thought he was strongly mafia. If he's town I'll feel shitty because I really honestly don't want to punish him for trying, but as it is, it's his shitty meta, he gets to deal with it.

    I think at this point I'd probably vote Koalas over fonti. It's razor-thin though. I think it just comes down to the fact that fonti has done more behavioral stuff - like the asking Von about Cobalt thing, like the cop!tom thing, even if they're more potentially fakable, if that makes sense.

    Like, reasons fonti is town:

    - Defending Cobalt in a way that didn't save him and made her look really bad.
    - Backing off on tom in really weird spots that potentially could have swung it off Cobalt
    - That post with the lyrics trying to warn me off cop!tom

    Reasons fonti is mafia:

    - "It's tom but I expect I'll be lynched tomorrow" is not a thing I'd expect town!fonti to say ever
    - N1 Q, N2 Von

    Reasons Kalas is town:

    - Tone (not slimy, more relaxed)
    - Frustration with Cobalt lynch coming from the PoV of frustrated town, not "my partner is dying shit"
    - He shot Von over me and fonti, reeeeally?
    - Cobalt bringing up his post count feels a lot more like slinging shit at town than it does distancing

    Reasons Koalas is mafia:

    - He shot Von over me and fonti and then immediately rolled into the thread going "ok here's why the Von kill makes it these people"
    - Limited thread presence
    - If he's town why hasn't he been pushed as a mislynch?
    - Cases feel kinda IIoA-y

    Like, looking at all of those and going "which of these do I believe in the least" I'm, ehhh. I'd probably end up voting for Koalas but just feeling like trash and expecting fonti to start gloating, idk. I've literally flipped on it like 2 or 3 times in the last 24 hours.
     
  3. Miner

    Miner Unspeakable

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    Side Note: Newcomb, sometimes I really don't have any idea what your abbreviations mean. Like sometimes there's context, but sometimes there's not. And looking it up on Google doesn't work for me.

    Ex: what is IIoA-y?
     
  4. tom

    tom First Year

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    Final appeal to emotion/whatever:

    If I'm scum here, this will literally be true forever.
    At least with all of you.
    I will never be out of the PoE again.
    Think about it.

    I have no idea why not getting lynched is so important to me right now.
    I can absolutely see me surviving and still losing.
    But no. I am town.
    I can't believe you, or anyone, cannot look and see that.
    It should really be plain to see.

    Everything I have said you think comes from a wolf perspective, I have explained how its a town perspective.
    Every opinion you don't think townme would have, I am owning.
    I read through my own iso in completed games to give you examples of townme having the same opinions.
    I have shown you how me vs cobalt was not w/w.

    I'm town.
    Get good.

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    [Information Instead of Analysis]-y
     
  5. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    There are a bunch of jabs before this, and those count too.

    Generally speaking though if this is a bus it's a pretty good one.

    The timing is the thing that sticks in my teeth though. Cobalt and tom both were getting some heat early D2, Cobalt more so.

    Gonna keep reading. I'm way too focused on this right now.

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    I mean... it could be Koalas.
     
  6. tom

    tom First Year

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    newcomb, if you townread me you get to lynch koalas AND fonti probably.
    pretty sweet, right?
     
  7. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    I know, if only our seer hadn't died N1 and potentially cleared/redchecked one of you.

    I keep going in circles. I just need one clear in those three it shouldn't be this hard.

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    Waaaaaaaaait a second
     
  8. tom

    tom First Year

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    Hey man. I laid my cop cover.
    I never did go find the post that outed quid as cop, but they found him.
    You think cobalt figured it out or did he need help?

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    For?

    /ten
     
  9. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Scum skip in 3, 2, 1.

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    *slip. Ugh.
     
  10. tom

    tom First Year

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    "let's mislynch jarizok"
     
  11. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    I mean... how is that /not/ tom claiming wolf?
     
  12. tom

    tom First Year

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    How is what not tom claiming wolf?
    All you gotta do is ask.
     
  13. fontisian

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    It is tom claiming wolf. We could have ended this yesterday and saved everyone the headache.
     
  14. Newcomb

    Newcomb Minister of Magic

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    Yeah, that sounds like me.
     
  15. tom

    tom First Year

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    Is WHAT tom claiming wolf?
    tom did no such thing because tom is not a wolf.

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    If you are talking about me saying lets mislynch jarizok....
    ok, maybe bad time to joke around.
     
  16. Miner

    Miner Unspeakable

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    TBF town!tom also claims scum sometimes.
     
  17. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    No, it would be the part where you told newcomb that if he figures out you're town, he gets to lynch me, your top town read.
     
  18. tom

    tom First Year

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    Just because I don't want to lynch doesn't mean he doesn't.

    And jarizok is still my top town read.
    Also feeling pretty good about newcomb ATM for not hammering.
     
  19. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Rewarding people who don't want to lynch you with town reads only works once.
     
  20. Newcomb

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    You framing that as an incentive for me to townread you feels incredibly Not Town though.
     
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