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Bleach Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Garret P.I., Apr 20, 2008.

  1. Vincent

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    Reread the manga because obviously not. Yamamoto had more raw power than Aizen but Aizen's haxness clearly gave him the advantage he needed to win a fight between them. Yamamoto could only be sure of Aizen's position after getting stabbed in the gut. Aizen could have just as easily decapitated Yamamoto and there would have never been a counterattack. Yamamoto could blow up everything but he'd have no idea if Aizen is in the range of his attack beforehand or if he's dead afterwards.
     
  2. TheWiseTomato

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    I think if Yamamoto decided to 'blow everything up' it wouldn't matter where Aizen hid if he were in the same realm. Also, Aizen wishes he was as powerful as Yama-jii.
     
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    When your range is 'All of creation' and your attack power 'Burn to ashes' you can be reasonably sure you managed to kill the asshole.
     
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    If he really wanted to be sure, he could bankai, and raise the ashes of everyone he's ever burned to see if Aizen were among them.
     
  5. Vincent

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    It just so happens that Aizen can move between realms as he likes. Yamamoto also prepped for the attack that would've destroyed the replacement city. Don't know if he can do such damage instantly. I'm also not sure sure 'all of creation' is referencing the range of his attack so much as its ability to destroy anything in front of it.
     
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    No, I think it was explicitly stated (or at least heavily implied) during the fight with the fake Yhwach that Yamamoto's bankai would destroy the realm if allowed to go on too long. But it would also burn Yamamoto himself and kill him.

    Aizen himself admits that he'd lose to Yamamoto in a direct fight, and says that he never intended to go there anyway before shoving Wonderweiss in Yamamoto's face (this was all before the hougyoku-steroids, though).
     
  7. Vincent

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    I said that Aizen may have been worried about his bankai.

    Aizen rarely fights directly. From what we've seen when they did fight Aizen had every opportunity for a killshot but decided to troll so that he could show off Wonderweiss and make Yamajii take out himself.
     
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    Wtf is Kubo spending so many pages on canon fodder?

    God, this fucking manga.
     
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    To show off Ichigo's new skills. Otherwise he'd smack down the Bitch Brigade in a few pages and we'd skip to someone else before we see him do anything interesting.

    And the Sternritter aren't exactly meant to be cannon fodder.
     
  11. Vincent

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    He could try fighting one of the stronger Sternritter instead of these unimportant ones. He hasn't done anything interesting so far anyway.
     
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    The Sternritter aren't supposed to be cannon fodder. We don't know exactly where they all measure up, as there is obviously power discrepancies between them, but every one of them that we've seen fight is at least as strong as a Captain class Shinigami, and the Sternritter had the Captains outnumbered before Captains started dying. Old Man Genocide is toast, so we can't rely on him to pull a trump, and there's a 50% chance that Unohana is dead for real, so that's the two strongest Shinigami in Soul Society gone before the fighting even starts.

    There's a reason the Sternritter were able to just roll in and take the place the fuck over.
     
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    Well, that shikai GT seems larger even than anything he's fired in bankai. So there's that.

    Maybe he can be a big boy now and not have to whip out bankai instantly every time.
     
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    ASSUMING HE EVEN HAS HIS BANKAI.

    Grant you, he probably does, but I feel the need to keep pointing that out.
     
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    Indeed. Even with the recent reveal about the true nature of Old Man Zangetsu, though, I still feel like his FGT was the final form of his zanpaktou. Even if the Old Man "isn't really" Zangetsu (though Ichigo concludes that he is?), he did, after all, merge with Shirosaki, who we now know to be the real zan. So in a way, even if Old Man is a lying bitch, FGT was still the ultimate shinigami technique it was represented to be, in my mind.

    Bankai should really be no issue at this point, especially after that whole scene in the aftermath of the reforging. Unless he had to struggle with Shirosaki again, but that wasn't the impression I got. Even if he did have to beat him back down, he seemed confident enough to do so at that point.
     
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    Welp that was a waste of a chapter.
     
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    I went in expecting the Bitch Brigade to up the ante and force Ichigo to put in some effort whilst smacking them around. Instead I got everyone forgetting what side they're on (Ichigo included) and mostly just standing around.

    And Shinji got the Kensei treatment.
     
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    So it begins. Ichigo will now lay a beating on the Quincy Army. Or big damn heroes will arrive.
     
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