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Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Prophylaxis, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    Just as a note, being willing to hammer townfirms nobody. Scum will know if the person who hammers dies, etc. They still most likely DON'T.
     
  2. Irdiumstern

    Irdiumstern Squib

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    I figured I'd be townfirmed after getting lynched tomorrow, Zennith
     
  3. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    Do you not believe Lucky has vig powers?
     
  4. Irdiumstern

    Irdiumstern Squib

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    I believe I'm not in the top two targets of the consensus, which means the chances of me dying today are slim, unless Luckylee wants to scumfirm himself. Should he prove to be probably town, we can lynch me tomorrow to get more shots out of luckylee, depending on how much gold his ability costs.
     
  5. blab

    blab Second Year

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    I'll check in again in an hour. I'm going to vote then, unless we have two people (except ika) who say they can be on after that.
     
  6. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    Uh, you've been the only agreed upon target as far as I can see.
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I'll be disappointed if Moridin makes it through the night.

    Vote: ika
     
  8. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Sloth is viewing the thread. I'm going to be a nice guy and not cut him of if he is writing something (again), but I give him 40 min at most if nobody else is going to take responsibility that the hammer happens
     
  9. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Not much to reply to, and at this point speculation is giving me a headache until we lynch/vig people. We have very little new information coming in, so my reads are more or less stuck where they are until we have confirmation on where the targets stand.

    Sorry if this one seems sloppy, btw. I’m writing it in a hurry as I’m heading out soon—as a note, I’ll check on my phone around 9:30, my time (meaning 30 minutes before Nightfall, going by Prophy’s clock), so if we happen to need a hammer then, I can do it.
    Like Zennith says, unless there IS a hammer-lynch role (don’t remember the name, don’t have time to go searching for it, saint something), this proves nothing on my alignment one way or the other.

    In the meantime,

    @Riley
    Riley, think about it: That’d only make sense in D1, where no one but the lynch would be at risk as far as anyone knew, since no one saw the DK coming.
    By the end of D1, everyone should have done Last Will, because you never knew who the scum would hit.
    Why didn’t you? That’s the most suspicious thing I’ve seen from you, in an otherwise derp!Townish play. Even if you were expecting not to die, why take that risk?

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    @Blab
    First, thanks for the replies, if nothing else, it’s thorough, going back to posts back on the 100’s.

    About your question itself…I’m confused. Lucky has a DK?
    Or do you mean the “Kill Sloth” on Lucky’s vig kill? What I meant there is that we were working as a group to decide the best target, narrowed it down to two main people, and your response seemed to be to ignore all of that and insist I be the one shot instead.
    There’s sticking to your guns (I recognize it because I do it all the time—Riley’s doing it right now, for example, though I like to think I do it for more valid reasons), because you know you’re right, and there’s forcing what you want on others for no apparent reason. Didn’t seem Townie.
    (To elaborate on “no apparent reason,” I mean that if you are going out of your way to derail what Town wants, you have to be 100% certain I should be lynched, and I like to think no one but scum should be 100% certain on my alignment at this point.)

    But given your recent posts…seriously, not sure what to think. It seems like you sort of admitted that weren’t reading my other posts (and the posts of others), at least not too closely.
    This raises some alarms because if you’re scum, it could be that you chose me as an easy target to tunnel and it didn’t work out your way so you skimmed through the parts that didn’t work for you and focused on the earlier parts of the game where I was finding my footing.

    And then there’s this…
    Which is as…vexing to read as it is interesting. It’s the first time I’ve been analyzed in any game though, so either way I thank you for it.
    Going over it really quick…
    1. No, you’re right, I’m arrogant: I’m completely self-assured and confident in myself and my abilities, and I like to think it’s with justification.

    2. This one…confused me at first, until I realized you weren’t talking about my games, but about my entire DLP history. …Odd choice, but I suppose it’s in-depth. Still, I don’t think it works for reason I go over in #4.

    3. Not sure what ‘exaggerated’ means, though you’re apparently not the only one that thinks so.

    4. Yep. Do people really think it isn’t? Btw, this is why 2 doesn’t work: I do have a “game-persona”. If you’ve seen me outside of games, you know I’m calm, casual, and apathetic about everything. By contrast, here I use passion and like to start aggressive in my hunting.
    Using my normal attitude to judge my play doesn’t work.

    5. So very true. This game and its incredibly confusing mechanics drove that point home. -__-


    In the end, some of the ways you use your reasoning seem like obvious mistakes you’d know not to do unless you were trying to beef up a weak case. Which goes hand in hand with my point above about weaker targets and what not.

    Though I’m not comfortable saying you’re scum. If nothing else, no one being able to know what to think of me has been my intended play since Dresden.

    But fine, mislynch me rather than let me walk away to wreak havoc. I can agree with that. We can see who the obvious target is tomorrow, and if need be, I’m fine with that being me.

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    @Rubi and Blab
    …Guys, this is just an aside, but I keep seeing something about the lines of “I’m not sure what to think of Sloth/I think Sloth has to be Town, but Fonti is raging at us probably, so I’m unsure.”
    Really? I mean, I’m not about to tell you what to think, but that’s incredibly weak.
    Fonti can be wrong, but whatever my role, I don’t know how much this should be a factor to your thinking.

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    Bitch you best not be bringing that weak-ass game here. I am the king of the wall-post.

    Seriously though, reading through it, and I like it. I can see what you mean by Custer now.

    …ok, there’s no point sitting on this since even if Lucky replies finally, I won’t be able to reply back in length, and given how much it’s been talked about, it doesn’t matter:

    This is why I think Luckylee is probably scum:
    He claimed Fonti gave him enough gold for 2 shots tonight. How much gold did she give him?

    If the answer is more than 1, he’s scum: There’s no way in hell Fonti believed him to be so much more Town than Titus or Zennith, definitely not after his last posts, to give him more than any of them.

    If the answer is 1, then his claims are very hard to believe: Lucky has a Night Vig ability which he can use as many times as he wants a night so long as he has the gold for it. 2 options:
    -He had 1 gold before Fonti’s Will, meaning this already overpowered ability costs one freakin’ gold per use.
    -He had 3 gold, now 4, meaning the ability costs 2 per use. Very unlikely, both because it would be a strange as hell way to distribute the gold from prophy, and because Riley has stated that Towns get 3 gold, which seems to indicate PRs don’t—and we know that Fonti had 4. I really doubt he had 3.

    So…yeah. If he hits our targets, we’re good. But I’m concerned, and he wouldn’t have made a claim so easily disproven if he didn’t think it’d matter Tomorrow.

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    Lastly, I hope I’m wrong about Lee, and in the spirit of that, we STILL haven’t given names.
    So here, Lee:

    Me
    Irdium, Blab, Custer
    (I have no preference on blab and custer, however, blab has stretched just enough in my eyes in the last few. Meanwhile, Custer is being replaced, or even modkilled if Prophy can’t find one, so it seems pointless to waste it on him.)

    Rubicon
    Custer, Moridin, Irdium
    (Adding Irdium because Rubicon said he’s fine with him exchanged with any of his choices.)

    Irdium
    Moridin, Custer

    Moridin
    Custer, Blab

    Maiden
    Custer, Blab

    Titus
    Irdium, Custer

    Riley
    Don’t remember

    Custer: 5
    Irdium: 3
    Blab: 2
    Moridin: 2

    IMPORTANT NOTE: THESE ARE PROBABLY WRONG. DID NOT HAVE TIME TO DOUBLECHECK. IF SO, CORRECT ME AND CORRECT MY ANNOUNCEMENT.

    I also highly recommend people consider what I said about Custer. I don't find him to be a priority vote at this point.

    In the meantime,

    LEE: SHOOT CUSTER AND IRDIUM TONIGHT.

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    Thanks for waiting. And yes, this is what my posts look like when I don't have time to clean them up. Lots of rambling.

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    Gotta go now, guys. Will check on the game tonight.
     
  10. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Sloth, are you trying to push for lucky to kill irid rather than meridian?

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    I'm going to move my blab vote to moridin as I think blab has been posting decently lately and I may have not read him closely as titus mentioned some of us may be doing

    I think Custer + moridin are best shots

    Maiden you need to post more
     
  11. Prophylaxis

    Prophylaxis Squib

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    ika (7): Luckylee, Titus, Citrus, Maiden, Moridin, Titus, Rubicon

    Abstain (7) Zennith, Sloth, blab, Irdiumstern, Custer, Riley Poole, ika

    Still searching for a replacement for Custer. If anyone has any suggestions, let me know through personal QT.
     
  12. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Moridin > Custer > Irdiumstern

    I want to bump Moridin even higher on my list based on his last few posts.

    Agreed that Lucky's power is hard to believe, but we'll see what happens tonight. Wondering why he's disappeared.

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    As far as replacements go, I'd personally just shoot Custer and save Proph the trouble.

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    ika (7): Luckylee, Titus, Citrus, Maiden, Moridin, Titus, Rubicon

    Interesting exercise: Who is the scum on this wagon? ika is confirmed scum so there should be at least one, right?

    Not Titus, not me, probably not Maiden or Citrus. Lucky or Moridin?
     
  13. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Yes

    and thanks for checking in at nightfall.

    I don't know why you think that was anything other than me bringing an option to the table. I don't have the authority to force Lucky to do anything.

    I have read all posts at least twice. What have I missed that makes you think that?

    Again, should we both survive, I'd like you to be explicit tomorrow. I can also simply post a list of scumtells, which is what my first try was looking like.





    FYI: The way you frame stuff like this is a reason why I'm still scumreading you ... and ignoring town!fontisian's reads would be foolish, always, but especially when she called 2 scum already.



    what about 5 starting gold; ability costs 3; etc?

    +1

    night
     
  14. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Deadline is under 2 hours now.

    I'm ready for a hammer.
     
  15. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    Oh someone ask for a hammer?

    Vote ika

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    I hope everyone is ready for a fun filled night ;)

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    Who wants to die of guilt? Who wants to be avenged? WHO WILL DINE WITH ME IN HELL?

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    I LOVE YOU ALL
     
  16. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I know I am. ;)
     
  17. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    I SEE YOU 3 PEEPING AT THE THREAD. COME AND JOIN ME AS WE DANCE IN THE MOONLIGHT!

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    I LOVE INFUSING PARANOIA TO EVERYONE! I WILL DO IT EVERY TIME! IT IS THE ONLY WAY I SHALL PLAY

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    WANT TO MAKE RIMES WITH ME?

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    I SHALL AUDIT YOU ALL!

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    KEEP GOING!

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    YAY DAY OVER!

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    IN B4 THREAD LOCK

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    NEED MOAR!

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    WHO WILL JOIN ME?
     
  18. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    c-c-c-c-combo breaker!
     
  19. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    HOW MANY MORE CAN I MAKE?
     
  20. Maiden

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    GAH, NO. Man, why? Before it closes, I'm sorry for not posting today! I've been busy! ;(
     
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