Mod: Can we just get an extension on the deadline now?

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Blab you aren't helping to solve the game.

Why have you asked practically no questions of Citrus?

 

That's still the likelyhoods for me, and from there still follows my lynch-priority. Cross-voting Citrus and Riley made that pair maybe even less likely.

I'm really not in the mood for games right now so if you have specific questions, ask. I do want to solve the game.

I didn't ask many question to Citrus the game because he was a strong townread for most of it.
ToDay he has made his thoughts mostly clear and I just pointed out something I found suspicous about him, anyway.

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Sorry if I sound too combative, it's not your fault.

 

Moridin and Blab canno b the scumteam. A quickhammer on Citrus would have occurred

 

Citrus and Blab seem relatively disjointed today. A 2 person scum needs one vote on a townie from someone not them (and both players active to hammer) to win the game. Citrus and Blab have been playing off each other more so than actually pushing the game towards such a conclusion, tbh. Given that blab is a very reasonable target and we'd just confirmed the alignment of Sloth, who pushed for a lynch between Citrus and Titus, it just seems weird to risk getting lynched instead of playing hard.

Citrus and Riley is a bit more plausible. We've had Riley's vendetta against Citrus the past few days which was never quite real enough to be pushed. A meh case at #1679 which still refers to Citrus as his 'main target'. #1685 is a bit odd, though, I don't see a scummate pointing out the dangers with voting. That feels either town who is genuinely worried about the hammer or scum who knows his teammate won't be online soon enough to take advantage so moves for towncred. If Citrus/Riley then I imagine Riley would hang around waiting for someone else to take the bait and throw a second vote in before jumping on the hammer. That said, it's entirely possible it was a back-and-forth designed for towncred, especially in light of #1700 having Riley ask Citrus for a case on me. Gives an opportunity for Citrus to push for my lynch while distancing Riley from it somewhat.

Riley and Blab is difficult because there's not much interaction there. This actually works in favour of dismissing them, actually - like I said, I'd expect scum to be somewhat aggressive today.

Plus, #1733 makes me iffy on Blab - he has no reason to suspect the inclusion of that line if he's not a TV, since he wouldn't know that it's not included for us.

I might be a bit biased since I've been focused on Riley's scumminess for a while now, but that's where I stand on those three options.

Blab, we're at the endgame. Hang in there for a couple of days.

 

I really do think Riley is town...so that leaves 2/3 chance of hitting scum in Citrus, Blab, Moridin supposing 4 scum.

Given Citrus's opening on Moridin, those two are unaligned.

[vote]Citrus[/vote]

Lord forgive me if I am wrong.

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Vote Citrus

Ok, if I'm wrong, I'll live with it. I think I am not though.

 

Eh, well, still not my favorite option.

Do you have questions for me, Titus?

If not, I'll go to try to get some sleep again.

 

Ok Blab Moridin is confirmed not happening. Blab would have hammered.

Blab, please try to solve the game. You've had Citrus floating around and I can't figure out why.

Btw, I can commute and receive money from wills.

 

yes, Titus, you will get my piece of gold, either by Payback or by last Will.

And I do want to solve the game, but you put us in a position where Moridin can hammer if Moridin+Riley is true, which is the team I thought most likely.

 

I did that before already Blab. Moridin passed.

Please make a Riley Moridin case. I don't really see Moridin scum ATM. Riley is also consistent with his meta and you said he was derptown when I wanted to lynch him earlier. What changed?

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Blab, I do have one last question. Rate the following nameless scenarios with reasons

1) 3 scum
2) 3 scum + SK
3) 4 scum
4) 4 scum + SK

 

nothing changed.
It's simply that most of the players I had scumreads on are dead, so I townread all the people that are left to varying degrees, and a lot of the townread on Riley is that "yes, town!Riley does things that scummy."

you are basically town!firmed.

Citrus has still mechanical reasons going for him.

Even Moridin has said several things I townread him for, but he is still far from as town as he was in Witchhunt where we massclaimed when he claimed Assassin.

I fear Moridin+Riley, simply because they are the most scummy people left in my eyes.

I am not going through the thread to collect all the scummy things Riley did, that has been done several times.
Do you want me to make a case on Moridin, then?

My fear of Moridin+Riley has only little to do with the interaction between them, in fact most of that is the lynch yesterDay.

 

Link me the Moridin game?

Citrus claimed a bulletproof. If so, then he should really be towning it up. Why would he be rolefishing etc on Day 1? That makes no sense.

Scum have a use for a BP with a flipped vig.

Also, how does BP show up in the list of items if Citrus has a passive BP?

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The setup also says don't modgame.

 

1)4 scum
2)3 scum
3)3 scum + SK
4)4 scum + SK

First of all, a serialkiller is very unlikely given that only one player died every night ( if you meant any third party, well then its wincon is probably benign enough that it might as well count as town for most of the game (survivor, maybe).

Arguments for 4 scum:
16 players
Most flipped townies have been powerroles
amount of scumpowers in different scenarios (Riley=town or both you and Citrus=town)
ika flipping goon

Arguments for 3 scum:
Powerroles powered down (slowvig, no cop)
Timing of double vote powering down

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https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=25297

 

Moridin, I don't see Citrus and Blab being disjointed.

Citrus agressively votes Moridin. I say no. Blab wants Moridin as well. Blab waits for Riley to derp and hammers.

Citrus and Riley also works given Citrus's extreme reluctance to have the lynch narrowed to the two of them.

 

Titus, do you still want something from me?

Otherwise I'm going to bed.

Voteflip, in case of Citrus+Riley?

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derp, in case of Citrus+Moridin?

 

What do you mean by your last question?

Will you be back before deadline?

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Riley, I saw you.

 

I offered for you to unvote and me to vote Citrus to give you basically my vote, given that in case of Citrus+Moridin I need to vote Citrus sometime since we need all three townvotes, and to give you flexibility.

I will very, very, very likely be back before deadline but I just took sleeping pills.

 

I accept. Please vote Citrus.

Unvote

 

Vote Citrus

/tenchar

 

Good night.

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Confirming not scum with Riley...should be obvious anyway.

 

@Titus

I unvoted because I wanted to see Moridin's response to Blab

Vote: Riley Poole

Also do you really think a 3scum team is balanced with 2 in jail as no-power goons? (except messaging)

Good possibility of why I wasn't quick hammered is because 3scum team. Also it's hard to coordinate a blitz on here because you can get ninja'd (and you unvoted Titus after a bit)

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No point in me checking in again, fucking lynch the shit out of Riley tomorrow. Next time I'm being a stubborn ass from the beginning and pushing my scumread lynch instead of sheeping behind others that seem more confident