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Canon Snape v. Fanon Snape

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mordac, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. Richard

    Richard Supreme Mugwump

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    So you like guys who mentally abuse children in a school?
     
  2. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Take...it...back...NAO!!
     
  3. Inferno

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    Well, when you put it like that... no, not really.
     
  4. Richard

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    Well thats what Snape is. A child abuser who teaches in a school. I'm not insulting you on that.
     
  5. Sarah

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    I prefered Canon Snape to Fanon until DH. Then I said fuck canon Snape fanon Snape maybe as annoying as all hell, pregnant, whiny, pathetic but atleast he wasn't obsessed over god damn Lily.
     
  6. Mechanicalchrist

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    That's better than being obsessed over god damn Harry.
     
  7. Invader.Azula

    Invader.Azula Seventh Year

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    Since Snape is one of my favorite characters I have to agree with the canon Snape > fanon Snape. Although I was pissed in book 7 when JK decided to turn him into a complete pussy over a dead girl, it much better than the sexy, Slytherin, sex-god that most fangirls see him as. I firmly believe that Snape is a snarky, sneaky, bastard who did what he had to in the circumstances that he was presented with.
     
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    I agree with Azula. DH just flopped an ending to the story on us readers. I really connected with DH because it felt written the same way I wrote all my papers on college. Is starts out good, but once I reach the length requirement I throw the ending on there and hurriedly tie up all my main points. I think Snape books 1-6 was a pretty good character. He was a bastard and you hated him, good. I try no to think about shit like this when I read. I picture Snape pretty much as Hans Gruber from Die Hard. An eloquent and soft spoken bastard with a determination to get what he wants. He's just a bigger ass from being tortured all the time. Gruber/Snape rocks
     
  9. Spanks

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    You know what I find funny after reading the 7th book? All around the fandom fanon Snape is always given some glorified death. Usually he's jumping in front of a Killing Curse to save Harry's life or some other bogus action.

    Then, we finally get to canon Snape and he dies on his knees bowed before Voldemort. Not only that, but he was killed as an afterthought by Nagini. He didn't get the glorified sacrifice that fanon likes to cook up. Instead he was cast aside like a broken tool.
     
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    Yeah, but then Rowling had Snape give Harry that sappy memory montage at the last second, which kind of ruined the glorious anti-climax that was his death. It would have been better (and more in character) for Snape to go out giving Harry the finger. He never cared what people thought of him in life, so why would he feel the need to justify himself in the end?
     
  11. meatzman2

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    There's a big difference between being a dick to people and wanting people to remember you as being a dick. Snape was a dickhead in canon, but underlying it all he was actually a pretty decent bloke, he didn't want to be remembered as a cunt. As it was Harry named one of his kids after him...
     
  12. Inferno

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    "As it was Harry named one of his kids after him..."

    What I don't get. Why on earth would Harry name a kid after someone who he refers to the whole series as "greasy git"? Yes, Snape looked out for him (not cause he wanted to) and loved his mom (wow... obsession over a dead woman who was married). So? Would you really name your kid after someone who basically humiliated you for 6 or 7 years? And took house points away because you were James' Son? (And that happened years ago. Let it go, Snapey.)

    So, I have a hypothetical situation. I have a very mean math teacher named Margaret Anderson. (Not her real name.) Now by no means is she on the same level as Snape. But let's say she was. Let's say she was in love with my dad and hated my mom when they were in school. But then my dad goes and marries my mom and I'm born. I look just like my mom, the woman she hated. Then my parents die, so she'll never get to be with my dad now.

    I go to school and get her for a math teacher. She looks at me and sees my mom, the woman who stole my dad away from her. So whenever I'm late to her class I get detention. Whenever I get a problem wrong I get detention. Whenever I breathe to loudly I get detention.

    Now some crazy guy is after me. He tries to kill me, she saves me.

    Some years later, she gets killed, but before she does she gives me her diary (read: memories) and exactly what happened between here, my dad, and my mom. Turns out my dad and her were best friends until she called him a not so nice name. They never spoke again, and that's when he got with my mom, a woman he previously couldn't stand.

    Few years later I get married and have a kid. Wow, she's a girl. I think I should name her Margaret after that math teacher I had once who was a bitch to me and loved my dead father but happened to save my life one time.

    That's not what I'd be thinking, I'd be thinking "Now what are some nice Greek names for my child?" (Greek cause they're pretty names, and my name is Greek too.)

    What I would like to know is what you guys would do in my hypothetical situation.
     
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  13. Richard

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    I'd do the same thing. "Albus Severus Potter" sounds like a 3some between 3 gay guys. But Harry's always been a pussy in the books. It didn't surprise me in the least that he'd do something as retarded as this.

    Some people would argue that he did the right thing by forgiving them. I disagree. Neither adult he named his child after, did not care for him, in my opinion. Albus "may" have to some extent, but not like a true parent would, in the least. In the end, Albus used him as a tool. Snape was a child abuser who should have been put into a muggle prison and let the guards know he liked abusing children mentally. But that's only my opinion.

    I certainly as hell, would not give my child such a ridiculous name of "Albus Severus". He is gonna get made fun of. Period. "Oh, you were named after an old senile man and a child abuser!"
     
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    Fannon Snape looks like Mid-Boss from Disgaea Hour Of Darkness
     
  15. Inferno

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    I know. What kind of name is Albus Severus? It really does sound like a threesome. I hadn't thought of it like that before... gross. I don't think Harry should have forgiven them either. If it had been me, I might've (but probably not) forgiven Snape if he had just died and I had believed he hated me like he hated everyone else, but if he showed me memories of how he "loved" my mom? Yeah, he's probably not getting forgiveness from me.
     
  16. Richard

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    I think Snape more like obsessed over Lily. its not exactly love, it's become something far more dangerous than love. And besides, Snape's the one that gave Voldemort part of the prophecy just so he could fill that childish hatred of James, thinking he deserved to die.

    I highly doubt a lot of people would have forgiven Snape, as most would have seen him as a childish, petty man who hated a child even before he came to school, then abused him for 7 years while Dumbledore just "hmm'd" and "dear boy" to the both of them, thinking they'd get along.
     
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    Oh yeah, I totally forgot that Snape was the one who gave Voldemort part of the prophecy. Woah... that means that it's partly his fault Lily and James died. If it had been me who did that, I woudn't have stayed in England. I woud've moved somewhere else so I didn't have to deal with people.

    And this is kinda random, but something I always wondered was if Voldemort was local, like he only killed British Muggles and Muggleborns, or if he was around the world, like he would go to Egypt and killed Muggles there too. Just curious.
     
  18. Richard

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    I think it was only local in England. At least thats what it felt to me in the books.

    As for Snape leaving? No, I don't see Dumbledore or Voldemort letting him leave. Dumbledore would have said some bullshit like "How would Lily feel if you left?" But in all honesty, I don't think Lily would have given a shit if he left or not, but Snape wouldn't have known that at all. We all know most of the students (minus maybe Hermione and the Slytherins) would have probably thrown a party if he left.

    I read a few stories that most of the school tables cheered (minus the snakes) because Snape left the school, or died. And it surprised the hell out of Dumbledore, as if he expected the kids to care. But most wouldn't, I'd think.
     
  19. Inferno

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    Yeah. If I went to Hogwarts and wasn't sorted into Slytherin and then had classes with Snape, I'd probably be cheering if he left. Not if he died though, because I don't think anybody deserves to die unless they've killed an excessive amount of people. Like Voldemort. But I don't actually know how many people Snape killed. I mean, he was a Death Eater, so he had to have killed at least some people, right?

    And if Voldy was just local, why on earth didn't more Muggleborns do what Hermione did to her parents, and move to Australia! Or anywhere that isn't Europe, actually.
     
  20. Nukular Winter

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    Fixed.

    If Snape doesn't share the prophecy, Voldemort has no reason to specifically target the Potters or the Longbottoms.

    If I were Harry I'd have spit in Snape's face at the end of DH and then pissed on his grave.
     
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