Movies like to take much artistic license for many things. Once an author signs over their books to be made into movies, they quite often, don't get much say in what happens with the movies. JKR's situation is quite obviously different, but that's to be expected as she's writing an on-going septology, and needs to give input for plot points. BUT, both she and the screen-writer, directer, and producer admit to JKR not telling them more than she feels they need to know. So the people working on the movies must take it as they see it, and most often, they don't look beyond the obvious, as that's most often what they just need to present: The Obvious.

There's no need to be insulting, or purposefully rude, as I was just stating both my own opinion (as you have done many times), as well as some much needed facts to a few people who've read too much fanfiction (and therefore decide to take liberties they shouldn't), and consider the movies before the books, and like the movie people, don't look much further than the obvious.

In just a few more days we will all see who is right, and who isn't, but as to the pairings you like Midknight, JKR says herself (on her website) that if the characters you are looking forward to include Voldemort, ANY Death Eater, Dudley, Most Slytherins, etc, then, according to JKR, you really need to look at your priorities in life and re-think them. Have fun with that!

Always the best,
Sempra

 

*shrug* wasn't meant to come off rude. As for the "artistic" bit I agree with, the directors have changed alot, but she herself specifically said the director of PoA including alot of
"personal" interactions that directly match things she's going to do later.

Besides if i was trying top be rude on purpose I'd of bashed the Ron/Luna bit, you know the only good match for him is a hungry Fluffy!

 

What I really didn't like about the third movie is the director adding in scenes like the [akward] Ron and Hermione at the Shrieking Shack. That was never in the book. And when Buckbeak was 'beheaded' with Hermione crying on Ron's shoulder with Harry behind them, In the book it was Hermione turning to Harry to cry on His Shoulder with Ron standing behind them. AGHH! I REALLY didn't like this director!

And it was an interview for the second movie where she said that about the personal 'touchy' stuff. (Just to let you know.)

I really don't get what it is about Hermione that most everyone doesn't like! And neither does JKR, she says so in an interview:

The character of Hermione is Rowling as a young girl: hard working, bookish, a worrywort. Rowling says she was painfully swotty, with NHS spectacles and short, short hair. She claims that she loosened up a bit later on but I'm not so sure about this. At times during the interview she is nothing short of earnest, especially about her work. She defends Hermione pretty fiercely, too. "My American editor says that I am mean to her because she is me. But I don't think that I am mean to her. I love her dearly."

But, I say, Hermione tries so damn hard. In {Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban }, for instance, she looks into the mirror that reflects what you fear most and sees a teacher telling her she failed all her exams. "I understand where that is coming from. It comes from believing yourself to be plain and feeling yourself to be no good at anything else so you've got to achieve something. I completely understand Hermione and I really love her and I don't want to depict her as a feisty little ..."

She breaks off and then starts to mutter. "It irritates me. It irritates me. What irritates me is that I am constantly, increasingly, being asked 'Can we have a strong female character, please?' Like they are ordering a side order of chips. I am thinking 'Isn't Hermione strong enough for you?' She is the most brilliant of the three and they need her. Harry needs her badly.

"But my hero is a boy and at the age he has been girls simply do not figure that much. Increasingly, they do. But, at 11, I think it would be extremely contrived to throw in a couple of feisty, gorgeous, brilliant-at-maths and great-at-fixing-cars girls."

This is the kind of speech that makes you want to clap and, really, I don't think that Rowling was talking to me, per se, here. So has there been pressure from the film people to change the characters? Make them more American? Make them, well, just a bit feisty?

"At the moment, in all honesty, they don't. Maybe they did in the beginning but then they saw the popularity of the books as they are. At the moment they are giving me a huge amount of influence. It will be filmed in Britain, with an all-British cast."

The interview was done in 2000; a little before the first movie I think. Since then, as you can see from the third movie, they haven't been giving her as much influence over them as she'd like. Only for MAJOR plot points.

 

-Nada, one of the interviews she gave that I'm talking about was for PoA

www.veritaserum.com/movies/ movie3/dvd/interviews/rowling-cuaron.shtml

There may of been one for CoS, that I know nothing about that one, but for PoA she made multiple interviews that stated what I said in one way or anything. I wanna say Lexicon had them all at one point in time or another.

As for the other comments about the 3rd movie, I made a thread awhile back about the 3rd movie, and we all pointed out the glaring errors and absolute BS that it was, check out that post, I think we found the most errors out of anyone short of Lexicon, lol.

I can't stand Hermy b/c she is that annoying know it all overachiever that is constantly only following what she reads as law, not opened minded, and in general a hinderance. Yeah she's helped Harry out multiple times, but only because JKR keeps switching back and forth between Harry being Heroic and bloody, mind numbingly stupid.

 

I can identify best with Hermione because of the way she 'acts' in the books. (They tone it down for the movies.) I speak from personal experience.
Have you ever noticed that Ron almost always wants Hermione to 'help' him with his homework? (Harry can do fine by himself) She's being used by him, though she protests at first, she always gives in, because she wants to keep what few friends she has. (This is probably one of the reasons Hermione would rather stick by Harry than Ron, is because Harry doesn't do that.) JKR says that the reason she's kept Hermione like this is so whenever she needs to tell a particularly important piece of information, she can use either Hermione or Dumbledore. (Dumbles because he's himself, and Hermione because you'll assume she's probably read it somewhere.) Hermione has gradually lightened up, but her worry for Harry and his welfare keep negating this to some effect. JKR says that in book six you will get a noticable change of Hermione lightening up, so don't worry. As for her taking everything she reads as law: well, considering how much my own attitude from my life experiences parallels Hermione's, then it's most-likely because she's insecure, and this is the way she's trying to prove herself. As for her not being open-minded, well, she's getting there. She has been slowly, but surely. After all, look at her mission for equality for the house elves; granted she's not going about it the right way, but her heart is in the right place.

I was homeschooled from grades three through seven, skipped eighth, and then went straight into a catholic high-school (though I'm not catholic). The last experience I'd had with people my own age was in second grade. The kids who did go to school, came by our house at least once a week (while walking home) and called me a freak for not going to school. So when starting at high-school, I wanted to prove to people that I wasn't a freak, that I wasn't different, so I did exactly what Hermione is doing. And I was the one that everyone came to for help, but no one wanted to really be around. I'm now in my third year of college, and still trying to 'lighten up'. It doesn't help that in my 1st year of college I was 'attacked' (so to speak) and became suicidal for a few months until I finally had the courage to seek help, but I'm getting there, slowly but surely.

 

Very valid, good points.

 

Thank you! I feel validated!

What's your yahoo instant messanger name/address (if you have one). It's fun to debate with you. (Hey, cool, I have an internet friend!)

I don't read much fanfiction, I prefer to beta (it helps because I'm going to minor in English), but I found a really good one! You'd probably like it (no ships; yet): it's an AU by writing-phoenix, her first language isn't English so there are a few mistakes, but not many, and it's the only fic on her profile at fanfiction.net. I like, but that probably doesn't say much for you, as we have some very differing opinions (at least concerning characters in Harry Potter).

 

any good looking Slytherin girl would be a good match for harry

 

What about Tracey Davis, male or female?
Millicent Bulstrode, Male or Female?

Agreed!

 

Having female Blaise isn't really a problem for me. However if male Blaise suddenly starts to play a large role in Canon (I think Rowling has said that we'll see him, but I may be mistaken), then my enthusiasm for 'Blaise with boobs' may be somewhat dampened.

 

Source: Lexicon and Answers.com

Davis, Tracey (witch) (1991-1998) Source: Lexicon and Harry Potter and Me BBC Special w/ JKR.

Not really any info on Davis that I could find canon wise. She and Daphne are still an open book.

 

Same, I can deal with a no name character getting a sex swap a hell of a lot easier then I can deal with a shemale Ginny (I've seen this sadly) or "Harriet Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"

 

I've avoided this topic because I like a well done Harry/Hermione (STOP THROWING THINGS AT ME!!)

I know that isn't a popular ship on this site, but I think if all the characters are kept 'in character' then she is the biggest option. Hermione loves to follow the rules, she has respect for authority, etc. But how many rules has she broken trying to help Harry out? And how many following Harry's lead?

Now as for the female Blaise thing, I don't have a problem with it. I think its pretty shitty of Rowling to have characters mentioned in the book but we don't even know the gender. If she puts the name she needs to put the gender at least. Now if the name was Bob then it wouldn't matter, but Blaise? A little more info would be nice.


Now please no one hate me for saying Harry/Hermione. I also love Harry/Bella, Harry/Narcissa, Harry/Tonks, Harry/Fluer, hell Harry/Anyone except Ginny. I hate Ginny.

Another ship I really like is Ron/A sword held by Harry.

Ahh man, that is not cool. Ewww......

 

Don't 'damnit man' me Lord Ravenclaw! Damn you Lord Ravenclaw for wanting Ron to get off so easy. Avada Kedavra is a quick and painless death by all accounts. But with a sword Harry can take his time, pick his spots and really enjoy having a more hands on approach.

I especially love the idea of a blade being slipped between Ron's ribs, ripping his lung up. That way when he goes to scream the air leaves his lung and causes it to collapse. Tons of pain. He'll die slowly and in incredible pain. :twisted:

 

I could buy the sudden sex goddess thing honestly. Well in a way. Not "she's good at school but naughty at home"

What I mean is think of how a average plain girl often looks in 7th grade, compared to late 8th grade or start of 9th.

I've seen some plain Jane nerdy girls turn into drop dead "I'll sell my soul to sleep with you" women.

Hermione however, to me... will always been incredibly irritating.

Then again maybe the reason I hate her is b/c she's nothing but a half assed written plot device.