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Crusader Kings 2

Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Coyote, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Yup, I've occupied all of them. Warscore of 100%. Not sure why he isn't surrendering.
     
  2. Aekiel

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    Well, just go to the diplomacy screen and enforce your demands on him.
     
  3. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Enforce demands is greyed out.
     
  4. Mishie

    Mishie Fat Dog

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    Thing is though, I've had people who I've declared war for that weren't my vassals who did join my kingdom, although I can't really be sure if that was just a problem from the previous patches since in my current game, before I press a claim that isn't from somebody that isn't a vassal, I just declare a holy war on the heathans down south, give a county the the claimant and then go for his claim.
     
  5. Aekiel

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    It's not if they're your vassal. It's if they're part of your dynasty or if you're the de jure liege of the territory you're acquiring.

    For example, in my latest Scotland game (inspired by Taure's troubles) I took over two counties of the Duchy of Ulster. I gave them to a couple of handy courtiers who had decent stewardship stats, then usurped the Duchy of Ulster title from its original owner. I gave it to the Count with the highest diplomacy stat and then conquered Ulster and Oriel in his name, rounding out the duchy for him. The counties joined my nation because my duke was the de jure liege of both Ulster and Oriel, meaning that he (and by extension, I) had a legitimate claim to becoming their liege.

    In the case of the dynasty thing, it simply means that if one of your dynasty has a claim on a county/duchy/whatever and it's below your rank (duchy if you're king, kingdom if you're emperor, etc.) you will then be able to force that claim and have the territory join your nation once you've won the war.
     
  6. Skeletaure

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    Incidentally, I figured out the surrender situation. It wasn't greyed out, it was already selected XD
     
  7. Mishie

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    Thing is though, these guys weren't part of my dynasty, and it wasn't for areas that I was de jure liege of, they were just random irish nobles I invited to my court, before I had any claims on Ireland at all.
     
  8. Skeletaure

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    http://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaz..._claims_and_casus_belli_expanding_your_realm/
     
  9. Aekiel

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    Ah, my mistake then. Guess I've just tried to incorporate territories that are too high ranked for me to vassalise.

    ---------- Post automerged at 03:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 AM ----------

    On a completely unrelated note, I just noticed (while deciding who to play as in my new game) that clicking on the three recommended rulers on the side panel of the single player menu in order will play the chords to the CK2 theme song.
     
  10. Skeletaure

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    To continue my previous post:

    To recap: I had assassinated my half-brother and inherited his county of Atholl, and the rebellious Duke of Moray was defeated. I was just waiting on his surrender.

    The Duke surrendered almost immediately, and I put him in prison. Life behind bars seemed to suit him, because he seemed very content - something you always want in a vassal! So, thinking of how well my other vassals would think of me, I released the Duke, who now loved me more than his own son.

    Speaking of children, my late half brother's widow had a daughter. But, no problem, I still get the county. Boo yar.

    My useless unlanded brother committed suicide by the looks of things, Depression. He was of my dynasty, but I think it's good that he's gone. A bit of pruning. It means the County of Atholl will stay with my heir, too.

    Anyway, after Moray was handled I began deciding what to do next. I turned my gaze to the Duchy of the Isles - but then the earl of Clydesdale died and his land went to the Duke of Lothian. I'd been aware that the duke was getting a bit powerful, but now I truly realised the extent of his power. He was a duke with three counties under his direct control, and 2 more under his vassals. More than me.

    So, thinking about the long future, I decided to leave the Duchy of the Isles for a time. I started to plot to revoke the county of Clydesdale from the Duke of Lothian. But alas, he declared war upon me, and so it was that my Kingdom was torn in two.

    I rapidly defeated his armies through superior numbers. He also made the mistake of dividing his forces. However, it took a long time to siege his holdings, and during this time the Arseface of the Isles stole two counties from the Kingdom of Scotland - the Isle of Man and Teviotdale. But he didn't take them directly from me - he took them from the Duke of Lothian, so he didn't have to declare on me. Tricksy bastard.

    Anyway, after a long period of siege, the Duke of Lothian finally surrendered. But all he surrendered was Clydesdale. He remained free. I gave Clydesdale to my newly of age heir. I then quickly provoked the Duke of Lothian him into a second war. This time winner took all. The Duke of Lothian arrived in my dungeons, and with him gone my vassals finally approved a new law which would allow me to revoke titles.

    Perfect.

    I stripped the Duke of Lothian of all titles, and am keeping him in prison to help my popularity by releasing him at a good time. Powerless, he's no longer a threat to me.

    All this time I continued to receive taxes, of course. With the money I created the Duke of Albany, just as I stripped the Duke of Lothian of his title. Now I'm a Duke twice over, with four counties under my direct control, and one more county under the direct control of my heir. I have more military power than all my vassals combined. My dynasty is secure.

    My son had a child by his French wife: a daughter. I used the wave of favour I was riding to change the succession laws to include women, should no male heirs be available. It made some of my vassals unhappy. I might release the former Duke of Lothian to get their favour once more.

    I look next to the Duchy of the Isles. They possess too much of my De Jure Kingdom - two Duchies, in fact. One of those would make a fine gift to my son. My son is married to the sister of the French King. I hope for his support in this matter.

    I am beginning to feel my age. My fortieth birthday approaches. I hope I can defeat the Duchy of the Isles in war before my son inherits. But at the same time, I must be patient. After three wars in the last 15 years I must allow my vassals to forget their past obligations. I must allow my counties to recover the strength of their troops.

    And then. Then I will claim what is mine.

    Edit: Incidentally, for those curious, I occasionally turn my gaze south. The battle for England has continued past 1080, and shows no sign of stopping. William the Bastard was soundly defeated, and now the Norwegians and Saxons fight endlessly for control of England. The Duchy of York has changed hands at least four times. It's like a pendulum, yet I think eventually the Norwegians will win it. A pity, as I would have liked to take Caithness from them.
     
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  11. Seratin

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    Anyone know how to form the Kingdom of Brittany? I have a Breton ruler who holds Normandy, Brittany and two other duchies as well as a large chunk of France in general. Won't let me create the Kingdom though.
     
  12. Aekiel

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    Go into the territory view (where it has the character portrait at the bottom of the screen), click the little box that says 'de jure' and then hover over the coat of arms for the Kingdom of Brittany. That should tell you what you're missing.
     
  13. Sauce Bauss

    Sauce Bauss Second Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The Crusader Kings 2 mod now has scenarios for the Greyjoy Rebellion, The War of Five Kings, and already had Robert's Rebellion and The Crowned Stag.

    I love this mod.
     
  14. Hashasheen

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    ... All you needed was one county in Cornwall. :sherlock:

    It doesn't get shown because there's a three-way conflict over the area between The Kingdom of Wales, the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Brittany. Basically, the area's Breton, but it's de jure Welsh and currently in English hands.

    Can anyone provide me download links for CK2+ and ASOIAF mods, for a Steam user?
     
  15. Sauce Bauss

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    DLP Delivers.


    For those who have CK2 trying to do a First Run every time you play, just rename Installscript.vdf to something like Installscript.vdf.backup

    It's in your CK2 main directory, in ...\Steam\steamapps\common\crusader kings ii
     
  16. Nauro

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    Alright, so I made a mistake.

    I figured, you know, people seem to tell fun stories, and it's accurate-ish historical game and you can play for almost anything. Well, anyone if you're not tired to ctl+f the character code to enter that it's playable in the save file.

    So yeah, I tried to play this thing.

    That was yesterday. At 12:00 in the morning. Now, it's 19:00, and not only I haven't done anything I had planned for the weekend (where the hell is my weekend?), it took me most of the first day to understand what was going on. (Well yeah, a guide probably would have helped, but I was all about swimming from the first try)

    It proved more addictive then civilization, and that that's saying much. God dammit.
    I'm off to sleep, because else I wont' manage to get up for work. :D


    I'd love that the game was a bit more about conquesting and a drop less trying to survive, but I figure that's going to come later, when I figure out how not to fail that much. On related note, how the hell can you even try scratching the golden horde? Every claim in that directions seems useless.


    On to do list - the westeros mod, cause it should be fun.
     
  17. Seratin

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    So I started again with CK2plus thinking maybe I couldn't make the Kingdom with Vanilla.

    I now have Brittany, Cornwall and Wales and still can't make the Kingdom of Brittany. Gay.
     
  18. ketz3r

    ketz3r Second Year

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    You need to be part of the Celtic culture group to be able to create the Kingdom of Brittany.
     
  19. Seratin

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    Of which Breton is a part of, right?
     
  20. ketz3r

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    Yeah. You've got the two required duchies?
     
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