Oh, that's cute, you want to play your inane stubborn game. Yeah, not. Don't want to play.

Listen. Once. Here you go:
I try to claim I wasn't sure? I didn't claim anything. I didn't HAVE to claim anything - We knew my ability couldn't always help, because of Lee. Who's now confirmed that he has it...and is useless to him. I'm not claiming anything, it's fact. Unless now Lee and I are scumteam.
Blab was the only one I could target whom I knew could make use of it, if he made it. So I took a chance. It's not like I have a limited number of shots.

(Also forgot about the Lyrium ability? That's fine, I guess. I want to hear what she says before continuing that one.)

 

How exactly is it useless for Lucky? He has an extra night to avoid kills that he can use whenever. That's pretty damn useful. You could have targeted me and given me an extra kill. You could have targeted TerRaine, your strongest townread as of yesterDay. Literally any person except the guy who was obviously going to die would have been better.

 

Lucky doesn't HAVE a limited shot on his abilities - I asked him, remember? He can commute every Night. What's the use of being able to commute twice a Night?

 

So, he's an exception to the rule. Why did you decide that it was more likely for any one of your townreads to be that exception than for Blab to get killed in the next two nights (especially when you targeting him would put another target on his back)?

 

Blab was the only sure thing to me.
Ter, I had no clue if she could use it.
No way I'm trust ZZ with it.
Lee can't use it.
Rubicon, I was paranoid about.
You? I read you as slight scum. Did you miss that?

Some people hadn't claimed. With a mason in the game, I was hoping there was a Doctor role that could act.

Don't regret my choice either. Problem with that? Could care less.

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Anyway going home. Continue later!

 

Still iffy on Sloth. Atum has also gradually risen. I have a fairly decent idea on at least someone else but I'd like to wait and see if it lines up with Fonti first, so could you be so kind as to throw up a read wall somewhere before tomorrow afternoon, ma'am?

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And no offense taken on that, TerRaine. I'm actually kind of enjoying myself despite the screwups.

 

Zenzao, that was my readlist. The scum team is Kalas/Lyrium/Sloth with an outside chance of Mathblade and Whooves. Everyone else is town.

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Or snowvon, I guess. But he's obviously third party.

 

so I've gone from your strongest town read to scum, all because I'm suspicious of you. I already put up an offer for you, we lunch sloth he turns out to be town and i take you out with me. Why refuse that?

If I were scum why would I reveal kalases role? Try to use common sense so its not like the unreal game where you lied yourself into a corner. Explain your rational on killing kalas allegedly and them actually killing Rubicon in thread with the hundred percent belief that he would turn scum.

Explain for everyone your reasoning. Make actual cases like you do when your town.

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You cant make me back down, I know that Kalas didnt just die...theres more to his role and I want too see how much scum tries to hide this plot.

oh and don't do the bs about roles. This is a bastard game. bastard. Jesus was an effing scum so its not your typical game.

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sloth, talk to me like that again and I will eff you up.

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Ok, so no longer on my phone and can type like a human again.

Any questions? Come on scum, come out and play...

 

No Lyrium, you're scum because you're a rolecop.

 

If we can trust MathBlade then Rubicon was the night one scum target. That is what I assume. In this version of events scum thought that Rubicon was town and decided to off him but MB saved his life and caused a bunch of other stuff to happen.

Kalas's death can be explained in multiple ways:
Kalas is NKed by town. Possibly by Fontisian. She then assumes that Rubicon\Kalas are a team and that is why she chooses to off Rubicon although she usually is a better player.

Kalas's death is related to his reviver\resurrection role. He wasn't killed by a town but by a scum trying to get town credit and activate some special ability. Ergo Fonti jumps up and down that she killed him and then uses a power in thread to kill Rubicon (assuming that he was town I guess especially since he didn't die N1).

Fontisian, do the LYLO thing you usually do. Anyone else who would like to speculate on x many days for x many things also should give their read of where town is and how precariously we hang by the edge of a thread.

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Fontisian, you tried this trick in the other mafia game and got Prophy, a townie murdered, it's not going to work here.

I am willing to vote for anyone you state is scum provided that if they flip town you and I die happily ever after.

How do you feel about that?

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Also, instead of trying to spread ignorance..try sharing information that is valid with others:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

Here we are. A role cop. My myth\fantasy series flavor and associated powers allow me to have a "vision" about the person I check. It kind of fits with role cop I guess or even seer which is why I thought it was ironical considering.

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Also, I find it interesting that you have yet to comment or speculate on outed scum..Kalas and his role and how him resurrecting will effect the game? Nothing to say at all?

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Or do you know something about Kalas and his role etc that you don't want to share with town? Come on Fonti, 1vs1 me right now.

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1 VS 1 ME RIGHT NOW FONTISIAN OR I SWEAR TO GOD

 

Just got home and catching up.

 

If he resurrects we lynch him. This isn't hard.

I will happily lynch you or Sloth. I will be willing to settle on Mathblade.

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FYI, I was right about Rubicon not being town. He probably did the "this is totally my town meta" stuff to avoid being lynched and tunneled me to avoid being nightkilled.

 

You were right about him not being town but you were wrong about him being scum. As far as I see it town's first and foremost goal is to kill all threats to town which is scum and then anyone else. So you wasted a shot on killing a 3p who technically was playing decently and actually being pro-town. He defended Titus and he defended me and he defended some other players who I believe to be town so yeah you did nothing significant in taking him out.

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Don't pat yourself on the back for an action that was sub-optimal.

 

He also defended Kalas early on and would have cleared Kalas if I was shot, so.

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Lyrium, my scum kill rate as a ratio to the town's scum kill rate is infinitely better, so.

 

Ok I am going to attempt the LYLO thing but my relationship with numbers is whack.

16 players day one:

PowerofDeath
Zenzao
Citrus
Snowvon
Lyrium
Titus
Blab
Doctor Whooves
Kalas
Sloth
Aekiel
MathBlade
TerRaine
Rubicon
Fontisian
Atum

Approximating that there are 3 scum, 10 town, and 3 third party. Obviously the ratio could be far different, I don't know who bastard this is. In an ideal world there would be only 1 scum or something sweet like that but this is a bastard world.

Day One:
3 scum, 10 town, 3 third party.
Day Two:
3 scum, 8 town, 2 third party.
Day Three:
If we lynch scum: 2 scum, 8 town, 2 third party
If we lynch town: 3 scum, 7 town, 2 third party

I stopped here but I am now wondering how many more town there have to be then scum or even scum and 3p for us not to be at LYLO.

For example, are we at LYLO on day four if my numbers are right?

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Fontisian, let's lynch Sloth then. I will vote with you. There are some reasons to vote him regarding his play.

Before you go do a readwall. Actually, do two readwalls. One in which you can put me wherever and the second real one where you put me as town.

When Sloth flips at lynch, I chose what to do about the two of us. Deal?

 

Leave obv Townie Lyrium alone...Just look at that townie rage. Look at it!

My list of who to lynch is
1) Fonti
2) Sloth
3) ika
4) Lucky Lee

Every one else not mentioned is either obv townie or not. I think we should compile a list and see where opinions are. Agree? Disagree?

 

Atum, your play is reminding me of WH3 which is why I'm concerned. You kind of "floated" in that game and because you were newish some people made excuses for you. Therefore, perhaps in this game you might offer readwalls or just pick a person scum interacted with and explain it.

 

i come home to see font agroing lyrim.

HEY FONT BACK UP YOUR THREATS WITH A FUCKING VOTE.

i dont have much time atm but this is shit.

 

And Snowvon, I understand that you enjoy fluff. I enjoy fluff. If we could have a game where we just fluffed and people randomly died but there was fluffy death scenes that put them in heaven then it would be awesome.

However, I have moved off the fluff train and am in hardcore like this is a mafia game mode and I need your help to kill the bad guys and save the world.

 

Really, same reason Scum!fonti would: He dies and since you know he'll come back, you capitalize on it for town cred.

It actually makes a little more sense than Fonti wasting her ability to kill a scummate for towncred, unless Jesus Christ HAD to be sacrificed so she can shoot Rubicon. Question is if she was threatened by Rubicon enough to do that.

All you need to do to avoid having me talk down to you is not be someone to talk down to, sweetheart. S'all you need to do.
Read closely. Also, fun how you get pissy but don't comment on how you were wrong.

Yep. I've been analyzing your ability in 2712. I need your confirmation to know what to do next. If I'm wrong about that being the extent of your abilities, you need to explain again, please.

Also, you were asked for specific details on what you found out on Kalas. Give them.

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I'm looking. Where is it?