Shit sorry! Accidentally liked. Hard habit to break. But yeah...I told you I'd do it.

 

It's more like POE combined with that, but yeah.

At this point, if you feel like hammering me, go ahead. Not going to end the Day early, but if you do, it's your choice.
In the meantime, I'm going to ignore Math's noise and try to see what i can do for Town - if I get people to realize what's wrong with this picture, the tide will turn.
If I don't, not really interested in fighting to stick around anyway.

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ok NOW g'night. Spread the good word, kiddos!

 

Thanks not stupid. Just playing to wincon.

Anywho...Ika / Lucky Lee enjoy!

 

I just want to verify this, Lyrium if Sloth flips town you're suiciding Fonti?

 

lucky, are you here.....

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hes not....

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well we got about i say an hour for luck to decide if he wants his hammer otherwise ill take it

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im alonessssssssssssssssssssssssssss...............

 

Ika we have tons of time left, let's not hammer.

 

we got 24 hrs lucky, then im hammering if hes still l-1

 

Mmmmmmmmk.

 

oh for teir:

i grew up on a homesite where neutral are a common thing. iin the last one i was neutral myself who called out math for a neutral and pegged entire scum team.

the one before that i was a doctor (btw i fucking hate the damn role with a passion) in a 35p(?) game.

know how many neutrals we had? 5
know how many of them were anti-town? 3 (arguably 4 b/c ghost was against town)

(offtopic but to taunt: i called out the witch and cirtus (who was maf) day 2 and we lynched him and then the sk and maf attacked me)

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the one before that was a specialty game that ended up being somewhat like reverse mafia.

it was 2 scum teams of 4

how many neutrals? 5
how many were anti-town? all of them (technacly the student could be pro-town but was not)

of the 5 there was, the soul of the beast (that was me), a cult leader, an electomaniac, and a jester.

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the one before tha was a cult orident game

37 players

know how many neutral? 8
almost all of them could of sided with either team (town or scums)
we had, executioner, thief (who turned jester b/c it failed objective), survivor, avenger (ghost), hitman and 3 neutral killings

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those are the big games alone, all the smaller one 13p almost always have some sort of neutral.

along with that i have played countless sc2mafia games as neutral and with neutrals (this si where ToS came from) and most of the time they side with scums.

so i have good reasons to want them gone before lategame.

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im going to sleep if anyone wants anything from me they better post it and indicate it. my paitence with this game already grows thin.

 

Fonti, anyone who is a threat to town wincon dies.

You tell me how you feel about Sloth is lynched, if he's town then you die and if you're scum I live and if you're town then we both die. How do you feel about that. I'm not going to target a 3p over a scum. That's it.

Yes, Sloth there is something about his role\team role that I don't feel like sharing...why should I? Half of the playerbase is lurking or being dumb. I don't know what I should do and I'm really interested in the fact that no one one has mentioned how useful it might be for me to check a player or who they think I really need to check so yeah fonti\sloth need to die. After that the game ends or idk scum comes back and town is screwed into a corner.

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Sloth is the lynch toDay. His flip determines the rest.

Sloth, do a last post...a last readwall..a last will of sorts. If you die and flip town who do I murder (I mean Fonti is the obvious choice, right?).

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Oh look and people suggesting we take out a 3p over scum. Why? Explain why.

There are two alleged 3ps...Snowvon and MathBlade

The argument I see ika is we should kill a 3p over a possible scum. How does this advantage town if 3p can be on our side? Or are you implying that it isn't possible?

Fonti's recalcitrance now is worrying me.

What is everyone's reads on Fontisian and Sloth at the moment?

If the majority of players spoke up I would even be okay with being directed but not by suspicious or up for lynch players.

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The moment I saw my role PM I new I was going to die one way or another, scum won't let me live even if I got one of theirs and survived the suicide, especially since I can never seem to keep role info under wraps. Although I think I managed to keep one fun thing under wraps.

However, if I can be useful to town then its worth it and if scum nked me then it would be awesome because badge of honor.

 

Covered below.

Presumably because you could be an equal opportunity motivator allied to scum. I find that odd now however, as if you were scum you should have motivated your scumpartner's NK capabilities(unless there were no ability-oriented NK's, just group-scum NK) rather than help town.

That would be on purpose. Suspected and confirmed roles for players as pieced together more-or-less yesterday morning, with my own included, minus one herp-a-derp I forgot about until today. See if you can pick them out. Took long enough for anyone to notice too given I tried to bring some attention toward it yesterday.

I don't know what to do beyond lynching Kalas immediately(before DayEnd), but even if we do we're still going to lose someone else thatNight. Kalas revives on Day5 right? Let's look at the player base by that point.

Sloth: Dead toDay, D3, as things are heading, triggering Lyrium/Fonti suicide pact N3.

D4 opening: One of (Atum, Snowvon, MaB, Whooves, TerRaine, LL, Lyrium, Ika, and myself) to lynch D4 and NK N4 respectively, assuming abilities don't preserve anyone(therefore LL should be safe as long as no RB hits him, while Lyrium's suicide ability puts her as the likely candidate for NK. I'd assume MaB is lynched by now :|).

D5 opening: (Atum/Snowvon/Whooves/TerRaine/LL/Ika/Zenzao/Kalas).
After the previous set of flips we should have a much cleared understanding where Atum, Snowvon, and Ika stand, in addition to Whooves, if he still hasn't been replaced/returned. We lynch Kalas. Scum still NK N5.

D6 opening: (6 players left. 2-3 Townies, 2-3 Scum and/or 1 3P, if Snowvon is cleared by prior flips and not NK'd).
I'd assume LYLO would take effect in a 3/2/1 world, but if its 2/3/1 or 3/3 than haven't we already lost?

Fonti should be scum(scum traitor?) by her role name and its subsequent description when I looked it up. The problem is that it could also be 3P for the same description, and I don't see her being Town unless that was done purposefully(see Kalas the Blasphemer) to throw off anyone role-reading her and falling into the potential trap I'm in right now about it. Her whole attitude this game certain matches up to the character personality.

I was hoping she would have posted a readwall yesterday to help me confirm, hence the town-coloring in my 2726. If I'd called her on this then I figured she would have pegged me as scum in return, which I suspect she'll do now anyway.

 

Anywho I am heading to San Francisco today so limited posting. Sloth/Fonti ship it.

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And no lynching 3Ps

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Oh and warning Sloth unvoted right as hammer about to fall of him as scum. Be careful y'all.

 

Wait, Zenzao, did you just call Yuan likely scum?

 

Listed under Major Antagonists at the wikia at the bottom of his character page. So yes.

The bold lines are what are giving me so much trouble over you, as well as the thought that you could have night killed Kalas to free up a Daykill against someone else. Your role is the nearest thing to a scum outside of Kalas confirmed scum role that I've found so far.

Feel free to clarify your reasoning why you aren't, please. I have zero experience with that game series beyond barely recognizing its title.

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And I'm out for the next few hours. Will answer anything else that happens when I get back.

 

Lyrium, you're obviously not going to make it through the Night. THAT's why you should tell us.

You lynch me, I flip Town, you kill yourself and Fonti. You're dead.

You lynch me, I flip Scum, the other scums obviously have to shoot you, you're too dangerous to keep around and in killing you they also get Fonti. There's no Doctor to protect you, otherwise Blab would have been protected. You're dead.

You don't lynch me, they kill you for the same reasons as if I were Scum - to keep me from motivating either of you. You're dead.

The only way you could make it through the Night in a world where I'm Scum or not Lynched is if Fonti is also Scum and they're not killing you in an effort not to kill her too. (Or where you're scum too, but if you make it through the Night, that becomes clearer, I guess.)

This is also why, btw, I'm not asking you to check on anyone. That, and it's not a one-shot ability?

So why wouldn't you tell us exactly what you know before then? The only ones you're helping there is scum - they already KNOW. Town doesn't. I'm not following your logic.

I've already explained why, and if that's not good enough for you, I'm really not bothering with it again.
I proposed a way to take them all out, you haven't really addressed it, so I'm assuming you dont want to.

Read up, if I'm right about anything here, your death could easily be useless and detrimental.

Nothing really changed from my last wall. You already know where to go, and what I think that should be done.

Fonti's a good target, though I think it's a waste when we can take out several possible threats at once.
Especially when 'threat to town' is my wincon, and that includes 3rders

At this point, my only real question is...
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH WHOOVES, MODS? IS HE GETTING REPLACED OR MODKILLED OR WHAT?

 

The only reason he is a temporary antagonist is because the main party is being manipulated by the main villains of the game at the time. His methods are also a little more brutal compared to idealistic main characters (i.e. wanting to kill a member of the party to prevent the destruction of both worlds), but, you know, priorities.

 

If you're saying that's some sort of code you put on the tags... ...not sure that's ALLOWED, but all the same, I have no idea what it says or means, so nothing I can do with it.

 

Zenzao, you are 100% not allowed to communicate information through tags. They're there for fun. Abuse them and we won't be able to use them in games at all.

 

Huh. TIL. Mods, please don't ban tagging in game due to my stupidity. Tag removed.

 

This is a retarded argument. Can anyone explain why?

That's correct, because when I did that...
A. we were at the last stretches of that Day, adding to the tension.
B. I had been heavily townread by most people, making reasonable to expect hesitation in hammering.
C. I stuck around the whole time, ready to unvote the whole time (damn site issues).
D. There was a competing train ready to take off (whereas Fonti's still at 2 votes)

I was gone for hours and both ika and Lee were around and perfectly capable of hammering at any moment, and there was nothing I could have done about it.
And given their attitude and thoughts this entire game, or any game, is there any doubt that it was reasonable to expect them to hammer me? Didn't think so.

^And this is quickly becoming something she keeps hiding behind. At some point other people need to start questioning this bullshit.