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CYS: Aria of Torment

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    In case I die like permadeath then here is a quick recap of Kalas's Adventures in Being an Evil Scum Mean Girl. It's backwards from most recent to least.

    Anyone want to do analysis, plz? If Lexi doesn't end game or we figure out if Sloth is dead or not then I will vibe it up.

    Kalas is dead and is scum.

    Kalas is afraid that killing MB will result in the game ending.
    Kalas is suspicious of Rubicon throughout and keeps needling him.
    Kalas attacks Rubicon over Fontisian.
    Kalas agrees with Fontisian over MathBlade defense (italics used, fancy)
    Kalas doubtcasts Snowvon.
    Kalas casts suspicion on Rubicon.
    Kalas defends Fonti in a post where I question her not making cases.
    Kalas claims that Lucky is town.
    Kalas states that Snowvon is scum on “auto-control”
    Kalas states that Lyrium is scum.
    Kalas states that Titus is town.
    Kalas states that Sloth is town and his ability confirmable.
    Kalas states that TerRaine posts infrequently but is sound, needs to be vote someone useful.
    Kalas posts that Rubicon and Fonti as null.
    Kalas posts that Atum as “eh” for posting him as number once scum but not voting him.
    Kalas asks Snowvon to be less scummy.
    Kalas defends MathBlade, says she must not be killed.
    Kalas interacts with MB, Snow, Titus, Lucky, Lyrium, blab,Rubicon,
    Kalas tries to convince Titus that I am scum over Sloth and MathBlade.
    Kalas tries to convince Titus that I am scum.
    Kalas tells Titus Lyrium over Rubicon.
    Kalas buddies the fuck out of Titus in like a million posts. Just FYI TITUS YOU WERE MANIPULATED BY KALAS THE FILTHY.
    Kalas reads, a lot of nulls and buddying. https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=758683&postcount=1453
    Kalas and TerRaine interactions are weird now that I look at them. Is it buddying or?
    Kalas responds to Sloth and mentions a poke.
    Kalas is mean to me.
    Kalas responds to Lyrium and refers to “inner Fonti”
    Kalas responds to Lyrium interested in kill attempts.
    Kalas attacks Snowvon.
    Kalas responds to Lyrium, TerRaine and Lucky.
    Kalas refers to MathBlade.
    Kalas refers to Lucky and Sloth.
    Kalas refers to itself in a post.
    Kalas votes Citrus.
    Kalas agrees with voting Citrus and mentions MB and Lucky.
    Kalas agrees with TerRaine and asks her about Aekiel.
    Kalas responds to fontisian and states he prefers a Lyrium\Rubicon lynch over Titus.
    Kalas responds to TerRaine question on twilight.
    Kalas responds to Lyrium and states to kill Citrus or Snow.
    Kalas quotes MathBlade to defend her against Titus.
    Kalas explains MathBlade’s abilities to Fonti and defends her.
    Kalas states that “Fonti, Blab, Lyrium, Von Scum is almost certainly that set.” In response to Titus and states that he would vote her for her reads.
    Kalas responds to Titus.
    Kalas responds to Titus stating he doesn’t get a scum vibe from her no matter who much Fonti he reads.
    Kalas responds to Rubicon’s questioning of Titus.
    Kalas responds stating that FOnti believe Titus to be scum and if anyone believes Citrus being scum means Titus is town.
    Kalas attacks Rubicon. Kalas asks if Zenzao’s derp will be excused. Kalas wants Rubicon to make a case on Lyrium.
    Kalas responds to Fontisian’s defense of Lyrium and defends Titus.
    Kalas responds to Rubicon.
    Kalas explains his scum read on Lyrium.
    Interestingly, mathBlade picked up on his scumread of me as well.
    Kalas asks FOnti to answer the damn question.
    Kalas asks Fonti\Lyrium if Titus\Snow are aligned.
    Kalas responds to Rubicon.
    Kalas questions Fonti’s town read of Lyrium.
    Kalas is obsessed with me for realz. Him and Titus should make a club.
    Kalas asks Rubicon questions about Lyrium.
    Kalas responds to his case on Dr. Whoves as being lean scum without responding.
    Kalas points that Dr. Whoves is lean scum. Suspicious of Citrus digging info on fonti. Asks the thread in general about Lyrium’s questioning, “Kalas, I would love some reads from you. Specifically, let's do Fonti, Titus, Atum, and Aekiel.”
    How many bets that someone on the scum team is in that list?
    Kalas mentions MB, Snow, LL as people he wants to answer the above question.
    Kalas responds to Titus request that he give a read on Titus\Lyrium with that he is getting a read on Dr. Whoves in order.
    Kalas responds to TerRaine questioning him for reads and defends MathBlade.
    Kalas questions Zenzao and questions Citrus.
    Kalas responds to players about his lurking and regarding his apology to Zenzao, and states he will read up to get back on Whoves.
    Kalas makes a statement about third party roles and MENTIONS his role name https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=755276&postcount=609 Mentions Snow, MathBlade, Citrus and Zenzao.
    Kalas responds to Aekiel’s discussion of hammering Snow by stating it is well-timed.
    Kalas responds with another “catching up” post.
    Kalas wants to get rid of MathBlade.
    Kalas responds to Snowvon about mathBlade.
    Kalas asks Lexi for a votecount so he can do things.
    Kalas responds to blab re: Sloth by stating the he lives up to his name.
    Kalas apologizes to Zenzao for antagonizing him.
    Kalas antagonizes Zenzao.
    Kalas antagonizes Zenzao.
    Kalas respnds to MathBlade voting TerRaine by stating that Aekiel has the right idea.
    Kalas agrees with Aekiel over getting rid of Mathblade.
    Kalas questions Zenzao.
    Kalas questions Zenzao.
    Kalas responds to Titus.
    Kalas responds to MathBlade and Titus.
    Kalas responds to MathBlade’s defense of Rubicon by attacking him.
    Kalas attacks Rubicon.
    Kalas responds to Lyrium’s suspicion of Aekiel with a joke. He also votes Lexi.
    Kalas confirms into the game.

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    Does scum have daychat?
    Am I the worst town player of all time with the randomizer thing? Why did I research and make a role, why couldn't I be a vanilla child?

    Kalas, can you become good. Like embody the values of your namesake truly.

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    TerRaine, I know more then just role. However, I asked Lexi if my results could be manipulated and if there were bastard flips.

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    There is no answer on it as of yet re: my results being tricked.
     
  2. TerRaine

    TerRaine Squib

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    Thanks Lyr.

    Ill build up another list of reads but I gotta say its not going to be all that different from the read wall I posted yesterday
     
  3. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    So quick skim...The main thing I think needed attention is my role.

    I am vanilla. My powers saved Rubicon once. The end.

    Sloth -- I haven't looked at recent posts today in detail and read them enough to know if I am offended because I am avoiding anything not bold in big long text. Short posts I read thoroughly. But since you are playing a character I would probably just give latitude. Since my flavor is gone, please assume my character is myself.

    If I missed something else, sorry quick posting just bring it up.

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    And this is for emphasis...Lucky Lee no voting 3P please :(

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    Oh and FYI Lucky my story never changed. I just simplified it and then added details as things became appropriate to share. It is complex so I understand why you think contradiction but it is hard. Think about it. I had to ask a ton of questions myself to understand.

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    Gotta run again! Out til tomorrow!
     
  4. TerRaine

    TerRaine Squib

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    Going out for the weekend....going to be vague from tonight until tomorrow nightish if anyone needs anything.
     
  5. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    So I will believe that Kalas and scum team tried to kill Rubicon because they are super concerned about him and Fonti's kill of Rubicon is now highly suspicious.

    Whatever happens Fonti has to die. I don't know if Sloth is dead or if his role is real (lucky did you get a message confirming?)

    Hey mods can we get a vote count\time left in day kind of thing?

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    Oh and can everyone answer the following questions. No blah blah just direct answers.

    1. Are you scum?
    2. Are you sure that you are not scum?
    3. What is the towniest thing you have done in game so far?
    4. If you are not scum or hiding under scum shadow, who is scum team based on Kalas flip?

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    Vote: Fontisian
     
  6. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    1. No.
    2. Not according to my wincon.
    3. Tried to provide a LYLO analysis a few pages ago, prior to that reading and trying to scumhunt most likely.
    4. I'm not feeling Sloth so much any more if LL is telling it true, Fonti is debatable but probable even so for her role, leaning Atum/Ika/MaB=Snowvon.

    Having said that, LL, are you serious about your wincon being to hammer? A hammering commuter. Odd.
     
  7. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    I did, hence I don't want to lynch Sloth.

    1:Nope
    2:100%
    3;made scum miss a nk via trolling
    4:if your info on kalas is true Lyrium, it's Fonti, mathblade, and probably Whooves.

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    I'm also a ninja.

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    That's a no, Fyi, Zz.
     
  8. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    done.

    i still want a sloth/math lynch.
     
  9. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Just based on the Kalas interactions I don't think MathBlade is scum.

    I thought SLoth was dead? Lucky's confirmation of him doesn't necessarily clear Sloth since in a sensible world...etc

    Fontisian's disappearances and her play being super similar to unreal is what is setting me off. i could do sloth before her but if he flips town then she's next and I'll check someone else toNight who is iffy.
     
  10. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Please don't make up shit like me "disappearing." You'll turn into ika.
     
  11. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Oh wait you are here? Really? OMG...it's Fonti. I wonder if her post will have any content in it re: reads
    because according to you you will be NKed tonight or die with me so either way you should post that "Here are my reads and WHY"
     
  12. TerRaine

    TerRaine Squib

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    Heading out soon.

    1) No
    2) Yes
    3) Scum hunted. Pointed out inconsistencies in posts when a player is acting suspicious.
    4) If your post analysis is sound Lyr I'd say MB...possibly whooves cause I don't see ANY interaction with him at all which is odd. He hasn't been around awhile but he was there at the start. However I this is a quick skim of what you've listed above. I'd like to go back on my own and see if my read on the interaction is any different.
     
  13. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    You. Sloth. Mathblade. Maybe Whooves. Everyone else is town.

    If you want, I can just copy that and repost it every couple hours.
     
  14. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    After hard defending me for two days, why have you done a 360?

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    Also, the fact that you're focusing on Whoves...who has not posted\logged on for over several weeks...why?

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    Also look at the post I made re:Kalas and tell me what if anything changes for you based on his interactions\posting.

    See you aren't doing the work which is a sign that you don't care to do the work which is a sign that you aren't town.
     
  15. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Lyrium, you claimed rolecop. Rolecop is a scum role. The only possible way this could be worse for you is if you came out and outright said that you are scum.

    I'm not focused on Whooves, actually. You'll notice that he's at the bottom of my lynch list, for the precise reason you just mentioned: He's not here so I can't find anything towny is his play.

    I don't understand why you think Kalas flipping scum would change my reads when I've been scum reading him since early Day 1.
     
  16. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Role cop is a popular role that is both town or scum so why are you lying or misrepresenting it?

    Also, fyi I didn't claim role cop.

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Role_Cop

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    FONTISIAN< you also read Rubicon as scum since day one and you were wrong. So, therefore you are not making sense.

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    Maybe only my initial claim was correct and I was bsing the Kalas thing, have you wondered about that?

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    And based on your logic alone, let's say I was role cop...how does discussing KALAS's role in any way benefit scum team?

    So maybe use some logic.

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    Fonti ,1 vs 1 with me right now.

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    Or too scared?

    I'm tired of this game now, all the fun people have died or are being ghostly and so therefore I'm willing to trigger with you so at least I did one thing right in all the stupidity.

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    F
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    /10char

    Oh look its Sloth but he's been pointless this game like seriously worse then a noob so
     
  17. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    dont instead of just shouting "they are scum" explain gthe damn thing
     
  18. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    1) I think so.
    2) It is possible? I could switch back with the stealer of my powers dead?
    3) Explained my guilty on Titus. I could have hidden info from town and didn't.
    4) Fonti/Sloth/ika -- Two of the three. If Sloth then Lucky Lee or Fonti not ika.
     
  19. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    1. Nope.
    2. Super sure.
    3. I voted someone or other to make sure we didn't NL.
    4. I'll get back to you on this one. My answer right now is "lynch everyone outside my townreads."
     
  20. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    I'm busy, not absent, Lyr. Calm yourself.

    Re Rolecops: There has never been a town rolecop on DLP. There have been scum rolecops. Likewise, on mtgs, the assumption when someone claims rolecop is that they are scum. The mafiascum link you included says that rolecop is a popular scum role, especially in high power games like this one.

    Further, having more than one ability is common in third party and scum roles, but almost never scum roles. See: Titus's role in Brass and Tax. You have claimed both a kill and the ability to rolecop. For town, that is overpowered. For a small but powerful scum team, it fits right in.

    Discussing Kalas' role (assuming you're being truthful) has one obvious advantage: It stops me from being completely townfirmed. Considering that my reads are usually spot on and townfirming me just gives them more weight, I'd say the scum team has a very clear need to prevent that from occurring.

    In the event that you lied about Kalas' role, we're in a world will Kalas won't come back and we won't have to waste a lynch on him and you'll still be obvious scum, as there is no reason for spread that kind of misinformation as town.

    I've already agreed to 1v1 you, and force you to prove your ability in the unlikely event that Sloth flips town. Are you ignoring that because it doesn't fit into your narrative?