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CYS: Aria of Torment

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    You're asking me like I know anything about balancing a game.

    My wincon is to survive, which doesn't clash with towns'. Citrus' wincon was to steal four items or something, which doesn't clash with towns'. MathBlade, provided she's telling the truth, has the same wincon as me, which means it doesn't clash with towns'. I have no idea what Rubicon's was but oh well too late for that.

    So no I don't see any problem with four neutrals running around. If the next lynch/NK were to flip Neutral and it's not me or MathBlade, I'd start to wonder, but for now four doesn't seem out of this world. Especially since, again, our wincons do not clash with yours.
     
  2. Delphine

    Delphine First Year

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    Vote Count 3.4 ~ 45.5 hours remain.

    [3] Sloth ~ Snowvon, MathBlade, ika
    [1] fontisian ~ Lyrium
    [1] MathBlade ~ Luckylee

    [6] Not Voting ~ Atum, Dr Whooves, fontisian, Sloth, TerRaine, Zenzao

    With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

    Deadline is at 8:30 PM EST on October 14th.
     
  3. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    lyrim:

    here:

    16 players

    lets assume all 4 neutrals are true for a moment

    rubi: anti-town role by default (probable wincon: see town lose)
    citrus: neg utility (wincon: get 4 items)
    snow: survivor (wincon: survive)
    math: survivor (wincon: survive)

    that leaves 12 slots left

    so lets say 3 scums

    9 town slots left

    arguably in in the first day, town can lose majority

    --

    so lets assume 2 scums

    10 towns

    still think thats too easy for it to swing.

    so i would assume in reality there are 2-3 neutrals and rest are fakecliamers

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    if you want setup spec and crap ask me lyrim but i dont see the point of it
     
  4. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    I do give reasons. That's one of the points.

    This one just happened to be long because I got pissed off.
     
  5. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Fonti, yeah I skimmed your long posts. When I can read up on a computer I'll look for your case on Sloth.

    Yep you guessed it, I can't take one out unless nked or lynched. At this point either works so if you think I'm scum vote me because you aren't voting anyone.

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    And maybe some of your reasons haven't made sense so yeah whatever.

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    ika, its important to figure out simple things like one neutral might be scum and hoe many scum there are
     
  6. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    clarify?

    /char
     
  7. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    It's a bastard game but there still has to be logic. There can't be 6 neutrals for example so if we can approximate the number of scum\neutrals\town it makes it easier.

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    Based on Fontisian's last trajectory:
    Lynch Sloth
    Lynch Lyrium
    Lynch Whoves if it isn't modkilled.

    I'll follow it to a T and see what happens.

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    Unless Whoves is town I think it just needs to be modkilled at this point to save town a lynch. Maybe even if it is town because its wasting time and space.
    Obviously hope the real whoves is ok.
     
  8. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    and thats what i did?

    but a bastard game does not need to have logic. it can be perfectly logcial to have 6 neutrals all with diffrent wincons or similars ones.

    soem bastard games are ment to be unfair and not have a logical sense. thats what Upicks are (and what essentially this game is)
     
  9. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Ika, what is your thought on Sloth and the remaining scum team?

    I guess if Jesus Christ could be mafia then anything goes. Ugh.

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    And if Atum or whoever doesn't vote, then you (non-voter) will die with me whether I'm Nked or lynched or fall into a basket or whatever.

    YAY FOR OBSCURE FLAVOR HINTING AND BEING A CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL..sort of

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    Aww...Fonti's not here to make me feel bad about myself.

    BUT Brukel is here..OMG...the mysterious watcher has appeared. Excitement.
     
  10. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    lyrim im at a point where i dont give a flying fuck right now.
     
  11. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    The resistance I have to Sloth is that overall he seem scummy but Lucky confirmed that Sloth gave him the extra ability when it seemed like Lucky was a vigilante. Therefore, it seems to me that unless Lucky was scum which it doesn't feel like it then Sloth had no reason to give a townie\his enemy\person who threatened to kill him an extra motivation thingy.

    That is where my resistance to voting Sloth is. I mean thinking like a townie...he could have believed (like I believed Lucky) that he was about to get murdered...then if he weren't town why would he help Lucky?

    Fontisian, can you explain it?

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    Ok, then off to see the wizard.

    ika-love...feel better. I'm sorry if you are feeling off and don't worry about fonti she's just stressed out too and will be fine. As long as she's not scum and the emotions aren't fake emotions, we can deal with her lashing out.
     
  12. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    I've been mulling over the possibility of Sloth faking a delay. It's the sort of claim that's just waiting to caught by a tracker though.

    Other than that, Sloth could have assumed that Lucky wasn't actually going to shoot him (which was actually what I assumed) and thought motivating Lucky would make him look really good.
     
  13. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    its not even that lyrim. I'll pm you later about it.
     
  14. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    I would think if we are specing the numbers of set up I would put my own not as third party but half for each team since before Rubicon stole all my powers to save himself I could have been hired. Thinking of that role as a traditional 3 P probably bad

    Ugh...Fonti seems really townie based on her responses to the prodding but I wonder if I am falling for it after her scum game here.

    Damn I hate being this unsure about things. :/

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    Unvote
    /10 3Ps
     
  15. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Lynch Vote: Lyrium.

    No time to sufficiently go over this and I may or may not have some internet trouble for a few days after this. I already PMed Lexi about it. My focus even if I have to hit up local WiFi spots will be on the Anthology though guys, sorry.
     
  16. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Catching up!

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    ? Lucky and I have said he did at least 3 times. Missing it once is...somewhat understandable, but how do you miss it multiple times?

    1. Nope.
    2. Yep.
    3. Constantly come up with ideas to circumvent scum and using common sense to narrow down possible suspects.
    4. I've gone over this one constantly already.
     
  17. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Fontisian, I would have to look closer at how he worded the part of where he claimed to have motivated blab since there might be a clue to whether he phrased\expected it to be one day or two days.

    Sloth, waiting for your catch up.

    Kalas also had a couple of posts re: going to catch up later and then didn't so actually you know do catch up.

    Zenzao, it's always a mystery why you do or say the things you do.

    Oh and Sloth, with nearly 3k posts repeat your stupid claims whether quoting them all like Fonti did or repeating them or die.
     
  18. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Zzzzzzzzz.
     
  19. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Guys we need to figure this out. A little more than a day left.

    -- Quick post from San Francisco
     
  20. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Its a mystery to all.

    But yes, I just wanted to make any kind of place holder vote in case I did lose my internet. Things being what they are, I'm playing this game with a screw or two loose.

    Right now we're relying on LL to back Sloth as trustworthy, akin to blab and Titus backing each other. I want to believe LL(bros over scummoes, yo). But if he's scum and Sloth is scum :fire

    You're going to die at some point and take someone out with you if I've understood you correctly. Do you have to die given your role name/flavor, or is it merely expected that you are going to die before end-game?