Non-scum. You know what I meant.

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You're adorable. Misrepping my arguments wont change the fact that you've been caught in a lie.

 

@fonti: How is Atum trying to solve the game?

 

I'm not misrepping anything. You're attempting to twist a statement I made to make no logical sense, and then take that to discredit anything else I've said, but more specifically, me throwing some pressure on you suddenly. Showing you priorities are defuse pressure on you, not actually scum hunt.

 

Here, let me break it down for you.

At the beginning of the game, you claimed that you put scum down as your first choice and town as your second. You then said "How many of you jerks kicked me out of your scum team eh?," implying that other people put scum as their first choice and got on the scum team instead. Therefore, you claimed to believe that all scum put down scum as their first choice.

Later, you attacking Snowvon, while saying that he likely put down scum as his second choice. This directly contradicts the mentality of your previous posts, and means that one of them was a lie. I suspect the latter, though it really doesn't matter.

Other misreps/lies include:
1. Saying you aren't very knowledgeable about setup balance when you actually have a high level of experience compared to most of the players in this game.
2. Implying that I was bandwagoning Zenzao when I started the wagon on him.
3. Saying that "I haven't done shit," when I had in fact laid a trap, pushed my strongest scum read, pushed Rubicon, and explained one of my town reads in the first 24 hours of the game, a level of activity which far exceeds my usual Day 1 play on any other site.
4. Saying I hadn't backed up my read of Zenzao "beyond abstract staements" when I had actually pointed out specific parts of his language and flaws in his logic.
5. Calling my attack on you for said bullshit "OMGUS" and ignoring my actual reasons.
6. Claiming that you would never vote for me directly after a scummate, when your team in your last scum game did that exact thing constantly.
7. Making up a fake argument against Zenzao ("oh he was being weak on his pushes"), and attributing it to me.
8. Implying that someone having an extra vote and not telling the world automatically makes them scum.
9. Claiming that it is possible for me to feel fear.
10. Again dismissing my pushes on you as OMGUS, with a general sense of false bravado.
11. Throwing out the word "buddying" randomly.

Caught scum is caught.

 

Eh? Oh, I wouldnt make one for myself, that'd be silly

No, I was mentioning how it was probably a good thing that we didn't have QTs, because of the reasons mentioned. You seem to have misunderstood me.

If I remember correctly, Titus fake scum!claimed, and so I made a joke - looks like my darstardly scheme failed on this occasion, though. 213 was me getting annoyed at blab for asking me a question that I couldn't help but look scummy from: I say yes, I get called scum, I say no, I get accusations of covering up, I do what I did (be as honest as I can) and people say 'scummy covering up'.

Most mafias seem to turn into me defending myself and then getting annoyed about it

I was just trying to be as honest and as open as I could. As more me being more aggressive - I like to think I've mellowed a little. Probably won't work out. It was mostly due to being lambasted for the majority of those games, too.


READS: blab seems to be doing exactly what he always does: ask cryptic questions and produce suitably cryptic role reads. One difference to how I've seen him play most of his games: he's actually gone and done a post explaining them. That's surprisingly early, normally he waits until at least day two to start making sense.

Fontisan is town-leading, as usual, being a bit bullish but getting reads done. I cant read her very well, so I'll focus on her readwall she posted, and primarily the differences between her's and blab's. They're pretty consistent, apart from the positions of Atum and Aekiel. Both are lower risk in font's visualisation, and it's Aekiel I'd argue needing to be higher.

Atum seems to be playing how my meta sees him, in that's he's usually quite consise. As far as solving the game goes, i don't see him doing it. I honestly wouldn't rate him scummier than I normally view him, but I normally see him as scummy.

Aekiel seems weird. He's posting, definitely, but not in the same way I remember him doing. At the moment he's doing some great reads, but he seems off to me. I don't know.

Citrus rubs me up the wrong way in 147, and seems to have a thing for extra votes. Does he know something we don't, or is he just speculating? And if he's speculating, why is he doing it so loudly? He's also getting very up in fonti's face, which doesn't seem very towny, unless he's got a serious scumread on her. In which case, please share.

Now, Mathblade. Why the stringent defence, Fonti? Math's being lovely and open about being third party, but - and maybe I'm just not up on third party meta - she seems like a liability. Why shouldn't we lynch her? I'm not being nasty, I'm honestly wondering about the reasoning, because I can see why it might be necessary.

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Woah! Blowing up.

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Updated Fonti read: this seems a lot like town play to me. Or at least town-sided third party.

 

Oh look....a mountain of reading to catch up on.

'Lo all...off I go to catch up.

 

I post as commanded:

Whooves, have you been reading about me?

Blab, I'll accept your twisted read of my answer if you'll answer the question too. Because Whooves brought up an interesting point about the questionable way you question others. It makes ne question why instead of answering your own question you chose to call into question my response to Whooves' response to the original question.

MathBlade, can you tell me what you think of fontisian so far?

 

Whoever is suggesting lynching me IMO doesn't want to scumhunt. I would look here.

Also if I was town which I am not. I have seen protown fake claim survivor as a strategy D1 in order to see who quits Scumhunting then tunnel their ass.

Now I ask who quit Scumhunting when I came out as survivor. Likely scum there.

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Fonti is likely town. She is much more talkative than her scum game.

 

Not so much about you, just games that you happen to be in.

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Are you saying you fake claimed? Or that it was just a nice side effect?

 

I did answer my own question.
Question the way I ask questions all you want, though.
Why do you think I was more interested in questioning your response to Whooves' response to the original question than answering my own question myself?

Why would scum fake-scumhunt and then stop fakescumhunting once survivor claimed?

 

Post as commanded. Hm.

Hey Atum, tell me your alignment. Be honest, now.

 

Vote: Citrus

can you now answer 282, fonti?

 

I feel better about Whooves.

Blab: Posts 196, 216, 231, 234, 239 and 287.

Why are you voting for Citrus?

 

I answer as commanded:

I'm as town as can be in a bastard game, Von. You?

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Whoops, totally forgot. Disregard everything except questioning your questions, which is still valid.

Also, I would assume scumhunting. What made you ask me though?

 

Interesting. I think I believe you.

I am the Towniest.

What are your thoughts on Citrus, since he's such a hot topic these days?

 

Contrary to what you might believe I still am able to find Atums posts by myself. What I really want to know is how you reached your conclusion in 254 so that my reads can be slightly less disappointing for you next time.

Mostly to get your attention.
Also because townCitrus doesn't talk like 147 and 280 unless

You hadn't said much and contrary to TerRaine/Sloth/POD could probably answer relatively speedily.

 

Those are the posts where he's trying to figure out the game. I like the questions, for the most part.

You lost half of a sentence there.

 

I don't see a world where Citrus's posts are what Town!Citrus genuinely feels.

The questions to Rubicon are ok, if I look at it sans my town!Rubicon bias, the rest isn't. whatever.

In a world where Citrus is scum, do I want to push him now?

 

Side effect

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Because they could argue I should be the lynch.

At inlaws probably won't be able to post during the night.

 

I have become tired of this gimmick:

I'm hesitant to comment on Citrus because he always seems to escape my notice. Fontisian's post about him reminds me of my thoughts on Unsight in the MS game we just finished, but I think Citrus is more experienced than that. He's doing that thing with fontisian again which is weird and I don't know if no one's commented on it because I'm the only one who thinks it's weird.

His QT from the MS Demon Hunt seems to suggest he's tired of rolling scum, but that was way after we submitted role info to Lexi so that doesn't really lend much to this analysis.

Comparing this game's opening to DLP WH and AYAW2 I'm leaning Scumtris just because he's prodding a couple players(or more) for reactions which looks like scumhunting and it could be, but it doesn't happen in AYAW2, which is the only big Towntris game I'm aware of right now.

Oh yeah, and the double vote thing. Citrus, what's up with that. It's a legitimate concern but I based on IRC there are worse and more subtle PR's.

If people keep making me analyse other people I'm going to have reads soon. Exciting.

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I just got back to my computer and realized this is the wrong shade of purple. Better.