The color coding..it's so fluffy I could die <3 Atum

Are there any questions for me, people asking for posts (okay mostly Snowvon the bouncy)?

Just to be clear, I asked to be a third party as my first choice and town as my second choice. I thought I might graduate from obv!town fool to 3rd part deviant but alas Lexi decided I was too nervous about it and just made me town. Which is cool, town is my firstest love.

Answering my own questions as asked by Titus:

1. If I could be on a scum team, it depends on whether hard core murder the town mode (then fonti, lexi, titus) or for the lulz mode (lucky, ika, and +1)

2. Well from the town perspective, 3rd party should "pick town" and prevent scum from razing our beautiful little corner of the world to the ground. A secret voice whispers..."chaotic neutral."

3. Color code, definitely. Offer an incentives program. Make a wish. Learn logicalnessness.

These are the questions, in case you missed them or just want me to poke you over and over and over and over and over and over again with a nebulous thing:

1. If you could be on a scum team with any 2-3 (4-5?) players in this game..who would you choose and why?
2. What are the possible third parties in this game and if you were a third party, what would your optimal course of action be?
3. How does town effectively combat the villany of the murderous scum and the infamy of the shadowy third parties? Things like group hug are not considered a valid answer because of the shanking factor.

P.S. I love the rainbows. LOVE

 

Y'all think I fluff. Well if that's fluff call me the bad ass motherfluffer.

Mathblade is likely scum. Citrus is likely town.

 

Well. MathBlade is definitely Not Town. So. Thanks for that observation.

I really want to sheep you for saying "motherfluffer" but hhh.

 

Scrolled through this and I already picked up multiple incorrect assertions, both some that are wrong by my opinion and ones that are strictly wrong. I'll do it either later tonight or tomorrow, as I miscalculated the amount of homework I had for tonight (also fuck quantum mechanics, even if it's 'just the easy stuff' as the prof puts it. Like seriously my brain hurts right now)

 

Snugly puff this game I love you.

And I am not town but I am not scum Titus

 

So Math, how do you plan on having optimal funtimes before your apparently inevitable end? Also, can we trade role flavors?

 

Off the bat I'm going to point out that most of the time people phrase something as "Not to trying to say X buuuuut...." then they are trying to say exactly X but giving themselves a weak escape route. There's a lot of hemming and hawing in your posts ZZ and defensiveness when called out on it.

I've never played with ZZ so giving a brief benefit of the doubt as I'm typing this and pointing this out. Sloth has the tendency to use we and us verbiage because we're friends outside of this. He's the one who prodded me into playing in the last werewolf game.

Being blunt as humanly possible. Sloth isn't that stupid or out of sorts to make that kind of mistake. Especially not in the first post.

I've only been in one game but Sloth played a good scum in it. He actually distanced himself from me in that game right from the get go because he thought I could read him...and he was right. I did call him scum at first...and then backed off in self doubt. So though I think this is a weak point to pick at and have nothing else to go on until Sloth posts I'd say the verbiage would point towards him being Town if anything. But as I said...til he starts flooding this game with "The Wall" this is a tentative guess at best.

Time to revel in my ignorance inexperience in this game. Why would there be an extra vote?

Fonti: potential laying scum slip landmine...good scum hunt if Lexi hadn't poked it and set it off.

Question's technically WHO likes cookies not which ones...seems insignificant but to me it could indicated you're not reading the posts too carefully which someone who is Town SHOULD be doing.

You seem to be reading something that isn't there. The suspicious part to me ISN'T the lack of voting. It's the mildly trolling way your accusations come out before you back water and scramble away. You say you want to be cautious but cautious to me would be playing your cards close to your chest until you have something concrete. Not throwing out lil quips and barbs claiming they're not barbs.

Aekiel outright ignores this question...continues to do so later too I notice

Why is Fonti always town?

1) I'd probably say Sloth. He did well as a scum in the game I was in. I can read him well. Determined not to let a correct scum read slip by again. I'd also probably pick Rubicon because damn if he's not hard to pin down sometimes.
2) Well MB seems pretty intent on claiming that. Though from my understanding of the role I don't know why. I know you said for the fun MB but I feel like that puts a target on you. Unless I'm misunderstanding. I'd probably go the caution route if I were a 3rd party. Actual caution. Not prodding people and running away caution.
3) Scum hunt actively...read people and don't let yourself get strung along and defensive. Survivors...I think they're obviously a concern but if we're already hunting down scum like we should and not getting lead about it should be a secondary thing to keep an eye on.

Reasons being? Also who are your scum and town reads if any?

When the first day is 2 weeks long I feel like vague hunches and guesswork are LARGELY decreased. I mean the time margin for scum to make mistakes is huge. Why waste that time by even bringing up third party lynches this early on...strikes me as lazy.

Rubicon - First impression was could be scum hunting or providing a fellow scum a nudge before he starts to deepen the hole he's starting to dig. Leaning more towards scum hunting townie by post 120 though as he's prodding ZZ to reveal more.

All in All...I think ZZ is putting up some strongly defensive posts, not reading carefully, and claiming caution when hes just poking and things and running away before there are consequences.

BUT...ZZ's wagon is strong and has enough pressure. It doesn't need my support right now and gives me the chance to push forward another scumread I'm getting.

VOTE Aekiel

You are hinting at a 3rd party lynch way too earlier in my book. The game is just starting and instead of focusing in on scum you're prodding MB for being 3rd party. All the focus on MB strikes me as a play to look like your doing something when actually you're just mimicking the motions of being an active player...because what you're doing in post # 223 REALLY doesn't help us win especially not in this type of game.

To me this is like looking at a person with a injury on their foot and saying well we COULD treat the infection with all the time we have and how early we caught this...but I'm going to focus in on amputating your toes instead.

Actions speak louder than words. You say your prioritize them but I see more of you prodding MB than anything else.

....Soooo....exactly what you're doing yes?

 

By having posting a lot and having lots of fun!

And unfortunately not right now There is no way for me to trade privately. I would have to announce my flavor to everyone.

Let's just say my flavor fits and doesn't fit!

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@Terraine: I would suggest you make a separate post to call out your vote. That being said removing a threat to myself in PoD or Aekiel is in my wincon.

Vote: Aekiel

 

Already gave my reason(s) -- I'm Not Good at Lying or Keeping Up a Ruse For Very Long. Being naive and gullible town is a lot less likely to give me a heart attack.

Town => fontisian, Rubicon, Zenzao, blab, Lyrium, Atum

Scum => Aekiel, Titus

Special! => MathBlade

And then I have a bunch of Maybe!xyz.

 

And its posts like that that make me think Aekiel has the right idea.

@Atum: Colors. Whyyyy?@Lyrium: Thoughts on Zenzao besides the whole newb thing?

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Gah. That formatting. Follow up for Lyrium, did you really expect to get anything useful out of your third question?

 

Fontisian, if we can all agree that the scum do indeed have a chat of some sorts, a means of regular communication, don't you think my theoretical scumpartners would have told me(and/or how to) stop making so many apparently obvious mistakes by now? What have I gained so far for my attempts to scumhunt and defend myself from my own fuckups and your accusations, except to apparently dig myself in all the deeper in your/rubicon's eyes?

Lynchs in pretty much every game I've played have fallen in a matter of one or two IRL days, my previous opinion on Sloth and riding his ass about something seemingly scumtell-but-actually-innocent got him lynched about that quickly when the other players jumped on the wagon D1, and I was attempting to avoid a repetition of this situation in the current game, as I've said repeatedly now. I understand as of today(and disagree with) that such behavior is apparently as scummy as it gets. I'd have been less iffy on my approach regarding Sloth had he actually been here to post and debunk this personally rather than away for a few IRL days.

And before anyone repeats Aekial's post about it being an immediate point toward scum who would get a lynch wagon rolling so soon D1 on a two-week IRL schedule, yes, thank you, I am now aware of that. I'm learning through trial and error.

The difference here is that you have played with an experienced!Sloth. My only perspective on his performances have been in the game we played months ago where he was being tutored by fonti and was also his first DLP Mafia.

Come on. If you're going to stand up and say "Yeah I dig cookies" why not specify which, its such an irrelevant piece of fluff in response to seeming-fluff that I didn't give it a second thought.

mfw.

 

Scum would never scum so hard ergo I am towniest town?

 

Another mistake, I'm just brimming with joy right now.

Again; what have I gained so far by trying to defend myself. Why not just shut up and sit in a corner watching rather than shove my neck deeper into the guillotine if I was indeed scum as believed by some of the hardest pushing players? They already suspect the shit out of me for novice mistakes.

 

You've 'gained' the chance to change people's opinions. That's all you ever gain.

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And choosing to play the game over not play the game is not +town or -town. Its just.. what you do.

 

I'm done.

Fuck the nuances of this game.

UNVOTE
REQUESTING REMOVAL FROM GAME.
REQUESTING PERMANENT BAN FROM SUB-FORUM.

 

I tend to misread Fontisan, so I try and keep a bemused detachment to my reads of her. I was being slightly sarcastic at the time.

@Zenzao: if you are town, then I feel you so hard right now. It is very easy for one mistake to spiral into defensiveness and then more mistakes. However, a scum player might well react exactly the same way as you are - defensiveness does not imply townyness, as you would likely be damned by your silence too.

If you want my advice, I'd recommend moving past the accusations and start focussing on scum hunting of your own. Remember, this is a very long day and opinions can change.

 

Was only checking in this morning, but just wanted to jump in and say:

Please don't go zenzao . I really enjoyed playing with you in the dresden game, and I was enjoying your posts thus far this game. Remember that there's scum in this game and they're looking to mislynch you. Remember that there's only so many people aggroing you. It's just as possibly you're butting heads with all the scum. And in general this is a game of opinions, people get notions in their head and then confirmation bias can occur. That's why you try to change people's opinions, cus that's all you have D1. D1 tends to be weird in general, after nights have occurred the meat of the game really comes into play with roles etc. I promise you'll enjoy this more if you stick around longer, just please give it a day or two.

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And by a day I mean two weeks, but I still promise it'll be worth it!

 

Test 1 2 3

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Ugh forum are my prior post.

@Kalas just playing to win con man Anyone opposed to me living I will vote and/or hammer without hesitation. Otherwise not playing to win con which usually the most fun is achieved by playing to win con.

@Zenzao: Are you a jester or do you want serious removal? If the latter I suggest we turbo lynch Zenzao to avoid having to have a replacement come in during a bastard game.

 

Zenzao, you have one vote on you. It takes nine to lynch. Several people (Lyrium, MathBlade) have said they don't want to lynch you today.

No one likes being suspected as town. Or as scum. It's going to happen though, no matter what, sooner or later. To everyone. That's just mafia. You basically have to take a 'haters gonna hate' attitude and learn to get over it.

^ This, 100%.

 

So, Zen. Don't leave. This game is frustrating, mafia generally is. I still have warm fuzzies from Survivor but from mafia games there's more anxiety or dark humor. I still don't know why I play sometimes, if there were more survivors....

just take a break from posting today and then come back hunting. Don't worry about needing to defend yourself.

Peeps, I won't lynch Zen day one and you'll have to make a really strong fucking case after that because right now I see town.

Oh and Zen, you know you can mess with people back? Its kind of fun. Like instead of defending my towniness I would just mess with them.

So next person who wants to go for the easy target, try me...flame on and all.

Right now I'm considering the Fonti vs. Citrus brawl. It seemed like Citrus was down for the count but..he said he's bringing the heat back.