Looked back at this because it was interesting. That timeline is right but it's a pretty clear parallel to Aekiel's Citrus vote in #362. These aren't alignment-indicative per se, but we don't have QT's and I'm leaving this here to look back on based on how toDay and toNight play out.

Also, I think Luckylee mentioned the quick turnover on our major wagons, and the same thing played out earlier when it shifted from Aekiel to Citrus after Snowvon posted his unofficial vote count. Within 100 posts of that, Citrus became the top wagon, with Aekiel, Rubicon, and Dr. Whooves joining Lyrium, fontisian, and blab

Interesting to note that Rubicon has since switched from that wagon to Lyrium's the current leading one. Both times with little reasoning that I can find.

Until a retroactive response to Lucky regarding the Lyrium vote in #768

@Rubicon: If you can think back and remember what made you vote Citrus, that'd be really helpful.

@Everyone: Is Rubicon the type to buss D1? Also can someone else look at this and give thoughts?

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Small correction, Lyrium isn't the lead wagon, it's Titus.

 

Atum, Bussing is always situation dependent. I am the least likely to bus but even I have sometimes bussed. It is poor form to consider that before flips.


Fonti, Lyrium, Blab, Von. Your scum are in there.

 

I'm thinking that out of Titus/Lyrium/Citrus that I'm thinking Lyrium/Citrus are more likely scum than Titus.

While in the beginning she derped by her unintelligible pressure on me I am more inclined to think that was an RL thing because RL has been crazy for the both of us.
I really thought she was scum. However I reexamined her crumbs and I think that the role she has could go either way but I want to see her out herself tomorrow or at least out what her results are if I am right.

@Kalas getting your question now. Just doing general thoughts first.

 

@Math, I attempted to get a result sooner. My ability only works at nig. Think about it. Tomorrow isn't good. My plan has been built around when I have results. It is unlikely to be Day 2.

 

The word choice does seem off to me. Let's do rather than what do you think about implies some kind of collaboration. It's also interesting the distribution of people she picked. Two people under suspicion (Titus and Aekiel) and one kind of under suspicion (Fonti) and some that people call obv town (Atum).

This makes me think more and more Lyrium might be scum.

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Hmmm are you crumbing the truth then I wonder? What's so special about Day 4 and Day 2 Titus?

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@Atum: I haven't seen Rubicon bus day one, but if scum obviously derp then they should be bussed. It happened on another game in another forum with a newbie scum, so I wouldn't rule it out, but it is IMO very unlikely.

 

Well...great here goes crumb talk. Think about what I do. My ability only works at night. How would I do anything n1? By day 4, if I haven't got a result I was blocked. Just think about that.

 

Your points about fonti are somewhat contradictory. If she dies toNight or even tomorrow, her position as a resource for town is questionable at best, considering she can't share her thoughts or otherwise influence the game from the grave (that I know of). So I don't see that as a point for or against her. Her living past N2 is the same sort of warning Sloth living for so long in AYAW2 was and I've been in enough games now that I'd act on it then without sufficient incentive not to. So again null.

Arguments wise, there is literally just too much material from a very persuasive source. I followed her back-and-forth with Citrus and when either was responding the response sounded like a clear rebuttal...until the next response. Basically, fontisian plays scum, pretty much how I do, but better usually, so her arguing for a lynch and having good points is barely in her favor. That's before you consider her willingness to buss. Thus, I'm left largely with tone and interactions to judge fonti by and I'm working on it. Gimme a minute, yeah?

As for Titus, I agree with you on the danger. And the buddying. And to an extent about defending the neutrals although she also helped me put pressure on you (maybe buddying but eh) which provoked plenty of good responses all over the place. Which is useful.

@Lyrium, I think I need more meta for you. The most obvious bit, post count seems to suggest you're less active this game in terms of D1 so there's that. The first things that come to mind in your play are trying to marginalize/lynch Citrus, pressuring Kalas into offering responses, going for the Titus lynch (duh), and defending Zenzao. So don't use a reductionist approach when summarizing someone's activity because it's doubful that it'll look good. Especially when you're decrying a scumread.

I think it's weird that you asked for my reads on three players I've said I'm advocating a lynch for. What were you looking for?

Can you give a Titus scum case? Because your wording regarding her hasn't yet claimed she's scum. Crazy or jester, but not scum. You've also said you aren't sheeping anyone, but comparing your arguments and fontisian's turn up a lot of similarities IIRC. I'll look some more though.

@fontisian: Why'd you switch votes from Titus to Citrus after Lyrium and bring Snowvon with you well after you'd posted that Titus' suspicious behavior made you want to vote Citrus more?

This game exhausts me.

 

The Citrus lynch wasn't going through. They're likely aligned; the lynch order doesn't really matter.

Atum, what part of my sorting of Titus's posts do you disagree with. If the answer is none, as it should be, why are you voting for her?

 

Alright, I'm here, questions for me?

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Cool, we're lynching Titus.
Everybody adressing me is not cool though

 

Translation: I cannot get a neutral lynch so I mislynch the town wanting scumhunting.


@Blab What are your reads on Fonti and Lyrium?

 

Citrus:

I might have, you know, real life reasons to not be able to post much. I still think I have awesome content though, so thanks for the nice doubt-cast and just piss off.

 

Titus, dear, you don't want scum hunting. Not only do you not want it, you blatantly aren't doing it. You been pushing neutrals and doubtcasting me, while buddying up to a few people for the majority of the game.

 

Titus

Read my walls and see, fonti and lyrium are town to me.

Rubicon:

Dude, Whooves answered my question (Do you think people who haven't played scum are more likely to be scum?) in a way that he described himself as "covering all his bases". It was in fact scummy, because it is defensive, self-focused and "aiming to please" which is a scum/newb!scum mindset. Covering all his bases is actually a pretty good description for that.
No, being risk-averse and double checking stuff is not scummy:facepalm.
But we already talked about that and you already asked me why I asked that question (And I fucking answered you) so piss off, too.

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Kalas

It was a damn great question, and wow even you apparently got a read out of his answer. Wow, man, great.
I'd like to see you do better. Btw, the piss off area is over there where Citrus and Rubicon are.

 

Fonti, projecting doesn't suit you. I did push Math. I NEVER pushed Citrus. I am done pushing Math. Done. Von's claim is shit. I am not pushing Von bc neutral. I am pushing scum that claimed neutral.

I have called people town and given reasons. You jyst say tone. My townreads will live on. Mislynching me gains you nothing.

 

^Bullshit.

Blab: I'm going to go oog here for a moment, and ask you if everything is alright.

 

I almost want to let Titus hammer me just so I can stop reading her posts.

 

And on that note, I should probably tell you that I do in fact still love y'all. Well like. Grudgingly respect at least. Most of the time.

 

...Okay. I have had a rough fucking day. I am exhausted. I feel like shit. I had no intention of posting tonight but a quick skim bought me seeing this.

DON'T FUCKING ACCUSE ME OF LYING ABOUT REAL LIFE.

I may be new but I know it's one of the top rules that you don't lie about RL shit to get around the game and it pisses me off you're taking that route.

My "supposed" absence was me going camping. It was a planned trip I warned about before game start and frankly was a get away from a MAJOR fucking disappointment I got 3 hours before I left. I had no time to post and just enough service to load the forum page for occasional check ins to make sure I wasn't being booted.

You want to accuse me of something for in game reasons you go right ahead. Don't call my fucking integrity on the rules into question.

 

TerRaine is even more obviously town for this. Not many can fake this level of rage.

 

TerRaine probably checked in per phone or something, Zenzao the detective saw her active, and said "she was lurking", TerRaine takes affront.
Nothing to see here, please move on.

Case solved. That's 10 bucks please.

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"I have reason to believe that TerRaine was lurking mid-way through her supposed absence with Sloth."
That's a mouthful for I saw her name, though. I'll take it back and assume Zenzao was secretly stalking TerRaine.