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CYS: Aria of Torment

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Titus

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    Question is why the fuck would you vote me Atum? *shrug* Not surprised my conftown flip on me in the end.

    Considering this town has ZERO desire to actually lynch the fucking scum, I may be stuck lynching the neutral that is actually acting favorable to town.

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    The sad thing is, scum are unlikely to kill me tonight but mislynch me tomorrow. Based on bullshit I bet. *sigh*
     
  2. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    I won''t lynch you tomorrow unless Citrus flips scum.

    Do you think Aekiel's claims aren't worth considering at all? And what "actual fucking scum" are you talking about?
     
  3. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Titus if you made a case on blab I missed it and a link would be greatly appreciated. If not please do. You've done some Weird Shit in thread but I can't get a scum vibe from you no matter how much fonti I read. I'm ready to be convinced.
     
  4. fontisian

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    Wow, you're already making up excuses for why you won't be shot. That was fast. I saw your crumbs, and remembered that you outed your role in your last third party and scum game. I don't doubt that you have some sort of tracking role, and that you decided on claiming this specific role early on. It's the town aligned part I don't believe.

    Hmm, let me check Blab last couple ten posts.

    Let's see, of his last ten posts, six are well thought out reasoning with good questions, one is an attempt to break up a stupid fight between Zenzao and TerRaine, two are fluff, one is him getting upset at Citrus pushing his absence, and zero involve doubtcasting.

    If you're going to throw buzz words around, make sure you can actually back them up first, hmm.
     
  5. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The only way this is happening is if Citrus is scum.
     
  6. Titus

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    Fonti, Blab, Lyrium, Von Scum is almost certainly that set. Rubicon has a minute amount of paranoia due to the disbandonment of the Lyrium wagon but he's probably taken the lyrium buddied by scum approach.

    Aekiel's claiming I am hiding something. I'm not. I've learned that just saying you're not hiding something doesn't do jackshit to move the game forward. I'd presume there's a tracker, watcher or some other mechanic that can check me.

    I'm attempting to hire Mathbalde considering I can't do much else. I know it will likely be fruitless to hire her with no item but it's not like I can do anything else. So I might as well attempt to charm the neutral. So I'll either visit myself, no one, or Mathblade according to any check. If I show visiting anyone else, then the tracker is lying almost certainly.

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    No. The mod outed I was a double voter. I wanted to keep it hidden. His first vote count had me not voting twice and it was not a mistake.

    If you think I am a third party, then either a) you think the game has four third parties or b) one of the alleged third parties is scum.

    Yet, you dance along only focusing on me and Citrus. That's not consistent at ALL. It's consistent with pissed off scum.

    @aekiel, getting to that blab case now.
     
  7. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I would almost vote you just for this.

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    Fonti, Blab, Lyrium, Von Scum is almost certainly that set.

    Rank these in likelihood please.
     
  8. fontisian

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    The fuck?

    In WH4, you were outed as the bomber immediately. Similarly, as a third party in Brass and Tax, you were outed as a double voter and crumbed other abilities (i.e. the self-protect) to protect yourself at night.

    You are trying to say that because you started to crumb your role early on you can't possibly be scum. I'm pointing out that for your past two scum games on the site, you crumbed your ability, so it was best a null tell and at worst a scum tell.

    And you took that statement and tried to claim that I was calling you a third party. The fuck?

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    And now you're hinting at other abilities with this "hiring" thing. What even is that, and why would you use it on Mathblade?

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    Oh, and your crumbs aren't consistent. Your role, if true, is actually reasonably powerful for a town player and very weak for a scum player. So, why is it that you claimed vanilla early on and only started crumbing when you began to get pressure?
     
  9. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Hiring is one of MB's abilities actually.
     
  10. fontisian

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    Can you quote the post for me?
     
  11. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Just a sec.

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    Actually MB, you're here. Explain this.
     
  12. Atum

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    By your own admission, your last bit of play has been a longshot gambit to get me dayviged. I'm not entirely sure what response you were anticipating besides paranoia and distrust. And please, of course we want to lynch scum, but cryptic bullshit and asking us to sheep your scum reads is probably the least convincing thing you could pull.

    Like, who are you trying to pull a lynch on toDay? You said you're not suspicious Lyrium is scum, but I'm pretty sure you're still voting her. You're doing that thing where you try to set up a vote before the lynch goes through. It's not alignment indicative for you per se, but how about you just vote where you want to vote and then discuss why like the townie you claim to be.

    You put yourself in this position and the timing of your claim makes it look premeditated to me.

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    Pretty sure other players can hire Math with items.
     
  13. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Here we go.

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    And there's the rest.
     
  14. Titus

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    Fonti, remember that "fluff". Almost each and every "fluff" post is a crumb.

    Saying awkward shit === Crumb
    Vodka better than computers === Crumb (Brennan uses Vodka on a plane to preserve evidence)
    Corporate Overlords === Crumbs... the first being the birth of the kid. I'm childless IRL. Brennan's kid was born in a stable after being turned away for help. Just like Jesus.
    Corporate OVerlords are Foxy === Reference to Fox TV

    Could use protection, as Aekiel displayed. Investigative.

    Mostly vanilla = I act only on one night.


    Blab post incoming.

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    I still think Lyrium is scum. Frankly Lyrium is the scummiest out of the players anyone is willing to vote.

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    Third post of Blab's. Fonti claims she will be killed N1. Blab votes Fonti to see if she's lynchable.

    Post 4, he pushes Doctor towards players who have never been scum as more likely to be scum. He says agree/disagree. This is doubtcasting the newer players and serves a function to try to gain agreement for a mislynch.

    Blab starts defending himself to Fonti (the alleged scumplayer who he's being "useful" with by voting"). Blab says he'll share reads later.

    He then asks around about what people thinks of Doctor's 171. Again, no content there.


    Onto post 205, pushes Doctor scum again based on covering one's bases being scummy. Blab then supposes I chimed in without knowing the context. Again, doubtcasting town. When I explain, he then asks for my opinion on the case? Which is it? Am I sticking my head where it doesn't belong or is my opinion valued there?


    Then Blab pushes newbie scum again supposing newbies would want to play scum. (You know who are easier to mislynch... newbies).

    #218 is a self conscious defense as to why he would not pick scum. Why need that defense when he's not even run up?

    #227 fishing for information and reads again. He asks for anything noteworthy if a player wants to contribute. You know how much shit Blab has given of note. Zero.



    We finally get content out of Citrus. Look at his townreads. Lyrium, backtrack saying she promised to fool us. Zenazo is described as unmotivated. Says Von hasn't given game related content. Townreads him anyway. TerRaine and PoD are doubtcasted. Doctor Whooves is way too town for the amount of time he's spent here. His scumreads are mostly seasoned players despite his claims in thread that newbies are more likely to be scum here. Zero trajectory.



    #282 Blab doubtcasts Atum.
    #290 Blab douctbasts MB (although survivor).
    #292 Blab votes Citrus as a method of getting Fonti to answer a question. WTF?

    #296 is far too cordial for a scumread. Blab and Fonti are casually discussing Atum being town or not.
    #298 Says Citrus is scum, but debates not pushing him.

    #327 pushing for more thoughts from Sloth.

    #348 accuses my Math read of lacking research.
    #350 blab is confused about my reasoning...and then throws in 50 more questions before he's even understood my first point.

    #367 blab gets impatient. He says I need to answer 350. 350 was a little before 8 AM. 367 was at 5 PM. Completely oblivious to the work day. He implies that RL is scummy there.

    #370 Another how do you read question

    #401 Blab posts a bunch of bullshit. Accuses me of buddying for having townreads.

    #434 Blab tells Sloth his perception of relevance is wrong. This is an attempt to dominate the conversation. Claims, despite his readwall, he's just now developed a read on Fontisian. WTF? Again, implies I am holding back something.

    #442 Accuses Citrus of having a fake fight with Fonti.

    #448 Asks a leading question to Aekiel implying Citrus scum poisioning the well there.

    #512 Apologizes for missing my townread on Aekiel but buries it. He does another readwall. Some of the players have no trajectory since his last readwall and are not mentioned. After saying that he's sorry I missed something I posted, he votes me in the same fucking post.

    #514 Says he didn't ignore Zenazo's fake hammer but he did not say anything. He says "Let's talk about it". With an alleged scumread?

    #533 Blab and I discussing his shittastic read wall.

    #535 Post about a change in strategy (giving up unaligned pairs).

    #537 Doubtcasting Mathblade's claim.

    #664 Barns Fonti's lurkers are scum readwall.

    #668 more reads fishing from Doctor Whooves. Gives Fonti motivation to doublecheck... meaning an out to bus if shit goes bad.

    #713 Questions my planning for containing Citrus. Doesn't bother with the illogical conclusion, if I was scum with Citrus, having him roll into me gets scum nothing.

    #754 Asks Fonti to get on my wagon rather than lynching Citrus

    #869 Blab asks for questions directed at him. Announces we are lynching Titus.

    #871 Blab gets defensive over Citrus's call out over lack of content. (He hasn't had shit. This post is his entire ISO).

    #873 Says his reads are in his walls. His walls are hundreds of posts old.

    #877 Says he loves all of us. (Yet I'm the buddier for actually liking CONTENT).

    #880 Comments on the PR fight.

    #888 Dodges whether or not he would lynch Fonti in a town Titus world. He TDLR's a conclusion of gee it depends. Also has doubtcasting of Rubicon and me as well.

    #925 more discrediting of me.

    #930 Large discredit of me again. This time he implies that me attempting to work with people is buddying.

    #932 Claims that he FoSed me first despite the ISO clearly NOT showing that.

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    That's Blab's entire ISO.

    None of it is scumhunting at all. Compare this game to WH4.
     
  15. Lyrium

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    Can someone explain Titus' claim? Crumbing is nonsense to me because I don't get it. I saw Dr. and assumed some things but it seems like she's only able to confirm a corpse and who killed it or what?

    Titus, if Citrus flips scum then you should die next. Also you tried to out my role and get me to kill Atum, your top town read, that's a level of fucked up that I don't understand.

    Let's say that Lexi was crazy enough to grant me of all people a shor ability....why are you making assumptions about how it works?

    For example, you say your ability can be activated only once (and you put in some caveats about if you track someone but some other tracker says you did something else then its a lie..which I don't get because wouldn't a sheriff type role be more reliable then one that examines a corpse or tracks a corpse?) and yet you assume my ability is available every Day? Why? Is your available every night?

    Then, let's say my ability is one shot.. this is all hypothetical...why would I waste it on not being sure? Let's say I had one kill..I would choose someone who I was certain was scum and wasn't going to be lynched by town even though they sucked. Like you if you keep playing this way.

    However, let's also add that Lexi didn't give people (or at least me and some others) exactly what they asked for. She gave something that limits any crazy overpowers so it's like suicide vig or leroy so that also ups the ante. Who would you target, right now if it would take them and you out at the same time? This is all hypothetical...I'm not outing my role until I'm at lynch.

    I feel like Fonti's posts and actions so far have been more town. 1. There was no reason for her to try to defend me, if she was scum. She should have let me die and just used my town flip to then lynch Titus or people on my wagon. 2. So far not getting her slightly slick vibes.

    Other players...ugh I have to reread.

    Rubicon, think..what would Lyrium do? WWLD. Would it choose to be a serial killer? Does it enjoy those kinds of things?
     
  16. Atum

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    So...vote him?

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    Did you get to specify the type of role you wanted with your flavor?
     
  17. Vaimes

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    lol

    /10townies
     
  18. Lyrium

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    Not really. I put "Here are some types of roles I like" with my flavor which was COOL and then I got something that wasn't quite that but sort of still fun for me.

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    I just feel a bit stressed that's all. Like with great power comes great responsibility but then splat you die.
     
  19. Titus

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    Atum, I'm not voting Blab because if I move my vote and no one joins me, we have ZERO chance of lynching scum today from my point of view.

    Lyrium, another scum confession. I wanted a scumvig to shoot town. So if I outed your role, you just claimed scum. So congrats!

    I can only use my ability on Corpses. I'm a coroner (forensic grave person according to my PM). I'm USELESS tonight unless scum dayvig. So I tried to draw a dayvig out on obvious town. I got one shot to get it right. You damn are right I'm going to be sure there's a corpse before I use it.
     
  20. Lyrium

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    I've never heard of scumvig so you're a lying liar and I will murder-suicide you when I feel comfy doing it, hopefully before being NKed by your buddies.

    Mafia have killers. Town has vigilantes who are outside the normal justice system because its too corrupt and slow.

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    Wow, I thought Citrus was scum pretending to be 3rd party and now we have Titus the most scummiest of all who tried to get her town read killed or other bad logic. Yeah. I'm find with murdering either one today although Titus is starting to look like the worst player of all time.