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Daphne Greengrass: a realistic and refined look at the character...

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Jormungandr, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. wordhammer

    wordhammer Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, but at least I hyphenated.

    Excellent points (even the ones I skipped), though I have some affection for Daphne in Perfect Situations by Jeconais. Sure it's Sue-ish, but it was a pretty good accidental slap to all the Harry+[Gryffie] stories already on fanficauthors.net

    I love Snakecharmer but it sits idle, awaiting a greater plot to drive forward the excellent characterizations.
     
  2. Jormungandr

    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    Yeah, I had the feeling that'd happen.

    She is a blank slate, that's true, that's why I was trying to look at the people/interactions hinted at/glimpsed at around her in an effort to see what she would most likely be like as a fully fleshed out canon character, and what would make the most sense. As mentioned before, it's conjecture.

    If she was in Pansy's 'gang of girls', for example, wouldn't it be plausible that Daphne herself might just have the same sort of views that Pansy had? There a link on the wiki that apparently backs this up, but it (the Time article) is not working at the moment.

    The reason why I find your incarnation of Daphne so unrealistic is because if she was as dim/thick as that, she'd of been torn to shreds by her Slytherin housemates long before the events of that story could of taken place. Aside from that (and the incest omake), I did enjoy reading your oneshot. Have you got any further plans on continuing it?

    Yeah, I admit, it might have been a poor thing to do in posting this topic, and I am grasping at straws when it comes to gathering any possible canon information about her, but I guess it's live and learn lesson, eh?

    Good to know that you're working on something new: I'll keep an eye out. :) It'd nice to read more Daphne/Harry stuff.

    Ahh, so that's how the "Ice Queen" cliche came about...

    Well, it's logical to assume that if her sister's a confirmed pureblood, she would be a pureblood also: unless she was a step-sister or a half sister to Astoria, that would confirm her blood status as being pureblood.

    Also, (taken from the wiki), Daphne's nephew, Scorpius, was labeled as being a pureblood by Ron Weasley in the Epilogue of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, indicating that Daphne and her sister Astoria were born into a pure-blood family.

    Also on the ruling of blood status, it's said that if a child's grandparents were magical, that would label them as being a pureblood...so even if Lily Evans/Potter was muggle-born, she was still magical...would that make her grandkids from Ginny/Harry technically pure blooded? If not, would their kids -when they're older- reach the requirements needed to be considered a 'pure blood', even if one great grandparent was muggle-born and one grandparent was a half-blood? (Harry).

    If my initial post was implying that, it wasn't my intention. Guess I should of thought it out a bit more if it came across as being like that.

    The purpose of this thread wasn't to try and 'tell' people how to write the character, if that is what you think: it was intended to explore how other people see this relatively unknown character, and some conjecture based upon things known about her surroundings, and how that it could of either hinted at or implied things about her canon character. The resulting discussion might of helped other writers somehow via inspiration or by them getting an idea of which they could adapt/use/refine for their own Daphne character, or perhaps something else along that sort of line of thinking. Grasping at straws? Yup, maybe. I'll also freely admit that the mentioned story did fuck with my perception a little bit, but I still find it unrealistic.

    Yeah, you're right there...that sort of indicates that she's a wallflower...

    Nothing else to say here, except that I find myself agreeing with your post/view.

    Thanks for tip on Snakecharmer...the title sounds familiar, though, so I might of already read it...guess it's time to go look it up. :)

    I'll also look up 'Perfect Situations', too.

    Apologies if there are any spelling mistakes in my post, I've only gotten two hours of sleep within the last day or so, so I'm a bit scatter brained at the moment.
     
  3. RedNehi

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    Crabbe and Goyle disagree, as do pretty much all the characters in HP, ever.
     
  4. Portus

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    she'd HAVE

    might HAVE

    ...

    I can NOT be the only person on DLP who's getting sick and fucking tired of reading this in what seems to be every. last. fucking. thread.

    Seriously, look at the words - does "of" makes one bit of sense in the context of that sentence?

    I read posts from guys like Celestin and think, "I wish his grasp of English was a little better, but I can understand him and if I have to re-read a sentence or two on occasion, what the hey. What kind of fiasco would it be if I were trying to post on a Polish-language forum?" (Celestin lists Poland as his location) But here, this is simply either ignorance or laziness, and I get tired of it. Sure, shit like LOL and IMHO and whatnot are fine, because in general, we know what they mean and they're accepted alternatives in a forum setting, but the absolute wrong word is just... grating, I suppose is the best word I can come up with right now.

    /rant (until it inevitably builds up again)

    And Ichor, I'm not picking on you personally; you just happened to be the last straw.
     
  5. Anarchy

    Anarchy Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

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    I used to make that mistake a lot, but word '07 underlines it green so after about the 100th time I finally learned.
     
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    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    IdSayWhyNot Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    This guy had it right from the start. Daphne is unknown, undeveloped. She could be a guy with a 10-inch long cock for all we know.
     
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    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    Speaking of which.

    who should/would be cast in the Porn parody of the HP series?
     
  9. Portus

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    Aaannd, this becomes the #1 thread on DLP in 3.. 2... 1...
     
  10. Shinysavage

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    Slughorn: short, fat man with a moustache? Ron Jeremy, no question.
     
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    Anarchy Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

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    Hagrid as "OH SHIT"
     
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    Indeed, at no point do dumb Slytherins seem to fall apart. If anything, it is a house where the crap rises to the top.

    Look, I get it what you tried to do here. And personally, as someone who intends to change his last name to Greengrass so that he can trick a Daphne into inadvertantly becoming his favorite literary character, I sympathize.

    But the end result is that as long as you write her as a real person, she's as 'realistic' a character as any other Daphne. Some theory is better than others, but at the end of the day the most we've got in canon is she's Slytherin and Draco married her sister. Course, Draco could very well have been in disgrace at the time that happened, so maybe he was marrying into a half-blood family that wasn't complete horseshit to save his own skin. Who the fuck knows?
     
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    Hahahaha, awesome.
     
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    I prefer my Daphne with jet-black, straight hair, green eyes, proportionate-but-large breasts, apple-bottomed, and a little bit of a loner who got into Slytherin for her ambition and not her pure-blood. I don't mind a little bit of ice-princess, so long as Harry can melt that exterior and have some nice, hawt sechkzors. ;)
     
  16. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Your Daphne Greengrass is a female Harry Potter...
     
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    ...Daphne is Fem!Harry with amnesia from an alternate dimension... adopted by the Greengrass family.

    Best to start the story as Harry and Daphne try to figure out why their babies are so fucked up.
     
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    Don't think it would be incest at that point, just accidental cloning.

    Which is still pretty lulzy.
     
  19. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    Due to this thread, I've found myself looking for and reading Harry/Random Slytherin Girl pairing Fics.

    99.9% of the canon girls are OC.
    The semi-canon girls such as Daphne, are the same as above, but don't have the fanon girl character/family/plot restrictions on them.

    Does that even make sense to somebody not sharing my brain?


    Anyway, most Daphne =
    Calm, cool "slytherin" exterior in public, but Paris Hilton when with tracey davis or Harry.
     
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