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DC/Marvel-Harry xover

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by GrayFox, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

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    Intentionally awesome.:rolleyes:
     
  2. Tasoli

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    Shadows of A Strange Kingdom
     
  3. Alive and Free

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    @Zyphere - the Zeus as Harry's father idea was where I was going with the idea before I got caught up in RL. As for Harry looking like James there's an easy explanation; he doesn't, not really.

    He gets his black hair from Zeus and it's messy because he never combs it and he wears glasses because he's got bad eyesight. The resemblance is mostly in people's minds.

    Or, he does look like James because Zeus' children take their appearance from the form he was using when he got their mother's pregnant.

    I know I'm a couple of days late to the conversation but this is the first time I've been able to get on DLP in a week.
     
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    Strange Shadows

    Whether Hugo Strange is just the trigger, or the main antagonist, all of the following events have been influenced by him. Ergo, they're Strange's shadows. I assume that Batman doesn't catch up to Strange for a while so he's "chasing shadows", which also fits in with the conspiracy motif. And Batman is rather notorious for his strange shadows, whether it's the bat symbol in the clouds or his silhouette falling over criminals below.
     
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    What's your progress Andro? I've got about .5 K of about 4 for my first chapter, which may grow as large as 7.

    Been working on my other work mainly, as well as reading Sacrifices and Incorruptible.
     
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    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    If anyone's interested, I've...acquired the DC Encyclopedia; both the 2004 and 2009 editions.

    If you want them, PM me your e-mails, and I'll .rar them up for you.

    (You'll need WinRAR to open the actual files, due to it being in comic format).
     
  7. Alive and Free

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    Has anyone considered using the Zeus-is-Harry's-Father storyline and dropping Harry into the New 52 Wonder Woman comics?
     
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    Father...I don't really see happening, because that'd invalidate a key part of the series (his parents).

    It'd also be a bit close to the whole 'Percy Jackson' premise.

    However, Zeus as Harry's grandfather is something I could see happening; perhaps not his mother, due to Harry seeing his relatives (knobbly knees and green eyes from his mother's side) in the Mirror of Erised, but James...

    Then again, it'd only take one mortal, maternal grandparent/relative to keep the whole 'green eyed' thing thrown down a family line - say, the maternal grandmother?

    Unfortunately enough, it'd also make Petunia 'special', as well as Dudley.

    It'd also line-up with Lily's sacrifice; her death sparking Zeus' anger, and Voldemort's sudden...disembodiment.

    It would also be a good kick-start for a character dynamic between Harry and Diana/the Amazons; Diana, finding out about her dead sister, and her gaining of a nephew.

    Especially if Harry takes an anti-hero sort of route; the character interaction between the two would be golden, though the line between development and pointless angst would be very, very fine.
     
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    Doesn't have to make Petunia and D special, Zeus LOVES to bed married women.
     
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    Ah, true - half-sister Petunia. :)
     
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    I've been considering the idea, but have been so busy recently.

    What jormungandr and Gambit mentioned has crossed my mind. AFAIK, we really don't have much established facts about Lily and Petunia's family.

    *Imagine's Voldemort being fried courtesy of Zeus' anger :D*

    Up until a week ago, I didn't know much about the Percy Jackson series. After looking it up though, the original Zeus = Father idea is eerily similar to it :rolleyes:

    Fun things I like about this idea are the challenges canon Harry faces each year (ie Fluffy and it's relation to Cerberus, Basilisks and Medusa and Gorgons, etc)
     
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    We don't know that much about Harry's extended family;

    Some facts point to Charlus and Dorea (nee Black) Potter being James' parents, but other facts don't add up (dates, specifically). This could be explained by JKR's piss-poor math skills, but still...

    They did take Sirius in when James and he were at Hogwarts, and they died 'long before' Harry was born.

    His maternal family is, aside from Petunia and Dudley, a fair mystery, too.

    They also died before Harry was born, of 'natural causes' (no foul play), and when Harry looks into the Mirror of Erised, he sees green eyed relatives/shades.
     
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    Perhaps his mom was the only Evan's with green eyes (recessive gene that just decided to show up) and he only believes that all of her relatives will, because noone has told him otherwise.
     
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    Could be; we don't know if, for example, Lily's mother had green eyes, or if her father did. Her grandmother or grandfather, for example, could have had green eyes, and Lily's parents blue or even pink with purple spots.

    Erised probably shows Harry what he expected to see of family (he has green eyes, his mother had green eyes, and ergo, his maternal grandparent(s?) must have green eyes), not what actually was.
     
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    For all we know Erised might be showing the truth.

    It is a magical mirror you know.
     
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    Maybe, but 'heart's desire' may not be truth/reality.

    Dumbledore, for example. Riddle standing tall and immortal, another. (From one of JKR's interviews).
     
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    Not this realty certainly but like I said it is magical mirror maybe he would look like that if he was immortal.

    Of course I am not saying you are wrong you are probably right but there isn't any canon evidence either way.
     
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    So I'm in a bit of a bind, right now; I'm not sure which path to follow.


    I sort of want to do elements of all three but, due to their natures, they cannot be combined.
    Each have a Cthulhu-like feeling to them.



    1. Follows a Power of Oa/Boy Who Lived and the Last Lantern format.
      The back-story has Harry raised with Kara, and they have a complicated relationship dynamic. Everything looks to be happy, with everyone farting rainbows.
      By the time-frame of the actual story, when Harry is in his late-teens/early twenties, He is estranged from his adopted League family – ties between them are tense, with them unsure of his motivations, goals, and methods, and he's sometimes seen consorting with the criminal elite/super-villains; he has however, to their knowledge, not 'gone evil', and become involved with any of their schemes.
      He is more of a ruthless anti-hero, especially due to the nature of his powers, though he does maintain a close relationship with Kara, Dinah Lance, and Batgirl/Oracle.
      (The former due to their history/complicated romantic entanglements, the mid due to Dinah being romantically interested in him, and the latter because -after researching Harry- she believes that he could be 'redeemed', much to his annoyance).

      In his own words, “Kara's the only real thing keeping me human.”

      Poison Ivy also has some sort of weird fixation with him; he's on the finely edged line between maternal and romantic.

      This would be set in a pre-New 52, no specific 'world', with elements chucked in from everywhere and anywhere.

    2. Another pre-New 52.

      Arriving via a meteor of magical fury, a Master of Death Harry/Angel of Death Harry smashes into down-town Gotham, shrieking in agony, his consciousness shattered, his memories scattered, his body changing, growing, and adapting.

      His arrival is felt by a variety of beings stretched across the cosmos; the League is alerted due to their resident Man-Hunter suddenly falling to the ground, screaming.

      He flees into Gotham, the League trying to find him, his fractured mind perceiving everyone and thing, alongside their motivations, as twisted, demonic versions of themselves.

      After running and battling (indirectly showing the reader his new powers, such as casually throwing a dumpster at Wonder Woman like it was an aluminium can), the strain is eventually too much and he collapses, caught by Kara before he hits the ground.

      Information on his altered Hogwarts days would be revealed through glimpses/references in the text, as well as scattered memories – this is to give the reader the gist of what happened in the past, without rehashing it in an info-dump.

      Death of the Endless would have a role, too; due to his nature, she sort of sees him as a pseudo-sibling or cousin, as do a lot of the other Endless.

    3. New-52: similar to the above, except that Harry arrives at the same time and -coincidentally- the same location as Supergirl, in Siberia.

      Dazed, confused, and a little amnesiac, he's accosted at the same time by the Response Team, and he undergoes a similar sort of thing with Supergirl's 'charging', where her powers randomly came into play – his being the ambient magic/energy that life generates.

      All he can remember is a mysterious, anxious-looking woman called Pandora, telling him that, “You were never meant to be; you are the catalyst, one on the road to either salvation... or damnation.”

      After circumstances force the two strangers to work together, covering each others backs, they try to communicate with each other, with little success.

      Clark then arrives, shit goes down, and Kara is separated from Harry, despite his involvement in their family 'squabble'.

      Harry is reunited with Kara when he's caught up in the same web that Kara is, as they see him as another valuable resource. The divergence becomes complete then when they stick together, telling Kara's now AU story and Harry's own.





    The latter would be easier, due to the reboot, the former two would allow for a lot more, due to the rich back-stories and histories involved.


    Any thoughts on what I should do?


    Oh, and it looks like this thread has spawned of a small, DC/HP sub-community.

    Awesome.
     
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    I like the Harry x Kara aspects of your plot bunnies. Of the three the second idea is the one that has hooked my interest the most.
     
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    I vote for 2nd one as well.
     
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