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Death Eaters Mafia #1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by BioPlague, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Which is exactly what the Death Eaters want you to think. Simply put, me not dying incriminates me more than anything else I could do. I know I'm the healer, I think Ashaya is the Dark Lady, but we need six players to vote a person dead otherwise this travesty of justice ends and every innocent man, woman and child in Hogsmeade dies. I'm honestly not sure we can do that any more.
     
  2. Tenages

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    Why are we bandwagoning Ashaya? Let's look at the facts.

    Our Auror says Ashaya is innocent.

    That same Auror says Aekiel is a Death Eater

    Aekiel then says he's the Healer, saving his own skin

    Aekiel then fails to die, suggesting that he isn't the Healer, since it's undoubtedly simplest just to kill him. If they rely on role-blocking him every night, the sorcerer could fail to get on, miss the update time, lose internet, etc. It's a dumb risk.

    Aekiel to me, is more suspicious than Ashaya

    Vote Player: Aekiel
     
  3. Rehio

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    You all have a hard-on for Ashaya that I don't understand.

    Aekiel didn't die after claiming he was the healer. Fuck that.

    Vote Player: Aekiel.
     
  4. Anarchy

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    I just want to point out that this is our last chance to get the right person. Lion, the auror, said Berkeley and Ashaya were innocent. If we kill an innocent today, then the death eaters win after they kill during the night. To this point I have seen nothing that makes Ashaya suspicious at all, and I've read through this thread several times trying to see if there were any details I've missed, and If there is any evidence, no one has said it at all during the six days this has been going on. All signs point to Ashaya being innocent, yet there are 4 people up front already voting for her. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, but I think we've all overlooked the obvious.

    So, Vote Player: Aekiel
     
  5. BioPlague

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  6. Havoc

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    Vote Player: Ashaya
     
  7. Dark Minion

    Dark Minion Bright Henchman DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    :(

    You all are voting against someone, of whom we have serious hints on his / her innocence.

    What about the rest?

    Vote Player: Riley Poole

    EDIT: rescind vote
     
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  8. Rehio

    Rehio Bad Dragon ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Oh God, Minion, you cannot make this into a stalemate. Whether the person you vote for is innocent or a death eater, someone has to die. If they don't, then another kill goes off unpunished and the game is pretty much over.
     
  9. Lutris

    Lutris Jarl Dovahkiin DLP Supporter

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    This. At this point, it matters less who we vote out but rather that we vote somebody out- we're fucked either way, and I'd rather we legitimately try to make a difference rather than let the Death Eaters divide and conquer us.

    I'd rather be wrong and be killed than remain divided and let the Death Eaters roll over us.


    The fact that Ashaya came out as 'innocent' from Lion's investigation means nothing. We don't know whether she checked out as a Witch, an Order Member, or the Healer. This means she's not in the clear- if she appeared as a Witch, she's just as likely to be the Dark Lady.
     
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  10. Ash

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    Fuck you guys :( I woke up to this and I don't know why you guys want to kill me so badly. I mean, I think it looks pretty obvious that it's Aekiel, but whatever. Kill me and fuck yourselves over because the Death Eaters will quickly overpower us.

    Vote Player: Aekiel
     
  11. Dark Minion

    Dark Minion Bright Henchman DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    This isn't about avoiding another stalemate - it's about what is right and what is easy.

    It's easy to bandwaggon on Ashaya or Aekiel. But it's just not right - and we might even doom ourselves, the moment we kill one of these two.

    The problem is, the more innocent people we finish off, the sooner the Death Eaters will dominate us. There are 3 or 4 Death Eaters. So we have one or two more times to vote until we really are doomed.

    But the chances are high that both Ashaya and Aekiel are innocent. We should focus on someone who is more dubious than these two. Lutris' fate is bound to Aekiel's - if Aekiel is innocent, Lutris is as well. Vice versa the same.


    So we have to focus on the rest. Who is the most suspicious of the rest? Point him out and finish him off.
     
  12. Rehio

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    The reason people are voting for these two is because they're the suspicious ones. There's no focusing on the rest, here. Also, because the Death Eaters are trying their hardest to get someone innocent killed and thus all throwing their votes behind an innocent.

    The Death Eaters are going to kill someone tonight, and that's going to leave us with 9, when we haven't caught any enemies. Half the town will be Death Eaters, and that's going to be damn near impossible to get past.

    We have three outcomes here.

    1: Kill a Death Eater: Yay.

    2. Kill an Innocent: Boo, we lose tonight or tomorrow.

    3. Stalemate, no one dies: We lose another innocent tonight and we're fucked anyway.
     
  13. Anarchy

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    That's a good point and I completely forgot about that, but let's just go back to the reason why people even suspected her in the first place. She was simply the first person to post in this thread way back in day 1, hour 1. And people have been after her ever since. If someone else can point out any suspicious that she's done, go for it. Really, if you think being the first to post is the most suspicious thing anyone has said, you should go and reread the thread and see that Aekiel, Kang, Rehio, Minion, Riley, hell, even myself, are more suspicious than that, as is probably everyone else.

    I just find it funny that she's been on the chopping block pretty much every night, and the majority does think she's innocent, still. Aekiel is way more shifty than her, ever since his first post. He probably isn't the real healer, but if someone else were to admit to being the real healer, then there's going to be a hell of a lot of attention on one of them. I've seen it in #werewolf, two people pretend to be the same role and they both end up getting killed, so its possible the real healer realizes that.

    Yes, TL:DR, but I'm sick of stalemates. Stalemates just guarantee that the death eaters pick us off one at a time, and we lose. At least by voting someone to die, we have a chance of winning, roughly 40%. Stalemate, and we all lose 100%. I'll take the 40% chance of winning over 100% chance of losing any day. Kill Aekiel.
     
  14. Lutris

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    Rescind Vote while I rethink things.

    TBH, it's more the notion of ruling Ashaya out as a possible Death Eater/Dark Lady, rather than being sure that she is one. If she ISN'T one, then while we do lose one member, on the basis that both I and Aekiel ARE innocent, the only suspects left are Anarchy, Tenages, Rehio, Minion, Kang, Havoc, and Riley.

    Of these seven, Tenages has been suspiciously silent, Riley hasn't voted TWICE, Kang has both initiated the Vira bandwagon and jumped onto the Lion bandwagon, and Rehio fits into my earlier assessment of likely DE candidates.

    Since Aekiel already spilled the beans, Havoc was the one protected last night, and is most likely an Order Member. This is because 1. My earlier suspicion of Kang's questionable voting record raising the likelihood of his guilt, and 2. another of my assessments of Castiel, Kang, and Havoc being the only candidates for remaining Order Members. To decrease the risk of killing our remaining Order Member(s) off, it's better to not vote on these three FOR TODAY. Well. Two, now that Castiel is dead.

    I KNOW Aekiel and I are innocent, because his survival was the most effective tactic the Death Eaters could have employed in response to his declaration of being a Healer. Besides, if they target somebody that he's less likely to protect, that lowers his credibility and shaves away our numbers both at the same time, killing two birds with one stone.

    Aside from this, Tenages has been suspiciously silent, as I've said two paragraphs above. Riley's non-voting history could be attributed to being busy IRL, but is also suspicious. Leaving Kang and Havoc aside for a moment, and putting aside Ashaya for the time being as the risk of her being actually innocent IS a bit high.

    TL;DR
    , I think we should choose to vote out someone from the following suspect pool:

    Riley (Anarchy puts it better below)
    Tenages (suspicion due to relative silence in the thread, and a consistent voting record against TBH)
    Ashaya (to settle the matter of her guilt or innocence)
    Rehio (my earlier reasoning of his immediate votes against TBH, then bandwagoning Vira).
    Anarchy (voting record of voting against TBH twice, )
    Minion (Bandwagoning Berkeley, then initializing the Vira bandwagon, following it through, bandwagoning Lion, then not voting last night)
    Me (for the sake of good will)

    Regardless, I believe Tenages, Kang, Minion, Ashaya, Riley and Rehio to be the most suspicious, although Rehio's guilt or innocence hinges on Ashaya's, as my assessment of his guilt is contingent on Ashaya being the Dark Lady.This is my reasoning for voting Ashaya. Rehio's innocence becomes radically more likely, narrowing the suspect pool down to Tenages, Anarchy, Minion, Riley, and Kang.

    We know we have at least one Death Eater and one Sorcerer from Aekiel's report of being roleblocked last night, and possibly a second DE and/or a Dark Lord/Lady around. We NEED to kill someone off, regardless of the outcome.

    I'm putting my vote off for a few hours until we get some more actual debating done.
     
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  15. Anarchy

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    I voted Riley last time, the way he's been playing this game is awfully suspicious. From the very first day when Berkeley Hunt defended Havoc, I was convinced that the two were either death eaters or order members. When Berkeley died, it became obvious that they are order members, so I don't think Havoc is guilty.

    I'm obviously not going to vote for myself, but if writing multiple paragraphs for nearly every post makes me seem suspicious, than so be it. I can't help how active I've been, this game is both fun and a mindfuck at the same time. Seeing how people react when accused is a big part of the game and trying to figure out where people lay. I think by now I've accused half the people at one point in another, but, like everyone else, nothing has come from it. I've been trying to get the other villagers active in order to get some sort of read on them, but it's not working. That in itself is suspicious though, like I have said in the past. Hell, Vash got switched out for not being active, and we still don't know for sure what he was.

    I may switch from Aekiel to Riley if other people have the same suspicions that I do, but the whole Aekiel situation reeks of foul play. I just don't want to risk a stalemate, so I'm keeping my vote on Aekiel for now.
     
  16. Aekiel

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    That's because foul play is involved, it is simply foul play in order to implicate me as a Death Eater.

    I have put myself on the chopping block by tell you all what I am. I have chosen the path of honesty and self-sacrifice, knowing that I will be killed at some point but hoping that my death will provide enough time for the rest of you to find the Death Eaters and neutralise them.

    There are 3-4 Death Eaters in this village, plus one sorcerer and possibly the Dark Lady. That means there are up to six people working together to kill all those who call this village home. We cannot fight them if we are divided, but their efforts to dissuade and confound us have given them the very means they use to slaughter us. If nothing else I must say that the Death Eaters in this village have played us like a fiddle, having us dance to a merry tune while all around us fear and death make themselves our constant companions.

    Dark Minion: You have the choice to make between what is right and what is easy, this is true. I do not envy your indecision at this time, knowing that no matter what course of action you take will result in yet more death for our village. Still, I beseech you to see that this is the very thing the Death Eaters want from us. They have paralysed us with fear of making the wrong choice, knowing that our past mistakes still haunt our thoughts and dreams. If we do not act now and act decisively our way of life will perish with us and the Death Eaters will cast all we have built and worked for into ruin.

    Lord Anarchy: There is little I can say that will not sound false to you, I know, but I must at least try to show you why I have chosen this path and why I must stick to it. My role in this village is one of healing pain and comforting those who have lost their loved ones. I stood back from this in the first days of this crisis, thinking that others would be wise enough to find the ones culpable for this massacre of innocence. I was wrong, and thought myself wise enough to know the good from the bad with just a glance, proving in the process that I was full of pride waiting to fall. I was mislead, confounded and so sure of myself that I was blind to the deception that was being played upon me until it was too late.

    This is why I am not a Death Eater. I was once prideful, yes, but I have been humbled by the trials that have been cast at me and I see now that stubbornness is not always a trait to be admired. It is through this and your arguments then that I rescind my vote for Ashaya.

    I agree now that there is insufficient evidence to prove her guilt and as Dark Minion has said, this is indeed a choice between what is right and what is easy. I do not want my potentially last act on this world to be one that my conscience cannot fully agree to. Unfortunately, if we do not act now there will be no future for any of the innocents in this village, so while the choice between right and easy still applies, it is muddied by the waters of desperation and fear. Thus I list the three I think to be Death Eaters, excluding Ashaya.

    Riley Poole, Tenages and Kang.

    Of these three I would suspect Tenages the most, followed by Riley and then Kang. Assuming for a moment that Ashaya is indeed innocent, that bumps Kang up to most likely Death Eater due to his sporadic voting pattern that has consistently been against innocent targets (exempting his vote against Rehio, who we do not know the innocence of). Unfortunately the results of this have been skewed by the lack of participation in the daily votes by both Riley Poole and Tenages, given that Tenages has missed one vote and Riley two, though it can be assumed that Tenages would have voted for The Berkeley Hunt once more, if given the chance.

    Thus I would name the most likely Death Eater of the bunch to be Tenages, once again basing my decision on voting records and his dogged defence of Ashaya, whom I personally believe to be the Dark Lady.

    So, in short, I believe that Ashaya is the Dark Lady, but I know that there is not enough evidence to prove this. So I propose an alternative. Tenages looks very guilty to me. His voting record shows a consistent bias against The Berkeley Hunt, whom we know to have been an Order Member. His defence of Ashaya from the beginning of this crisis also leads me to be suspicious of him, and finally, his role in this debacle will provide the evidence we need to prove Ashaya's guilt or innocence. If he is a Death Eater, his support of Ashaya casts her in a suspicious light. If not, then her innocence is all but proved.

    So now I once again call upon you all to follow me, knowing that I have acted suspiciously, knowing that I have failed in my estimations before, but still asking that you trust that I am telling the truth, that I am the healer and that I only seek a resolution to this conflict that will protect the lives of innocent men and women.

    Because of this, I take the following actions:

    Rescind Vote

    And

    Vote Player: Tenages
     
  17. Tenages

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    I've been suspiciously silent? I've posted every day, and missed one vote. I've explained my reasoning every time. Didn't realize tl'dr's were required to be innocent. I'm also the only one to speak up and defend Lion. Odd thing for me to do if I were guilty. Given that I don't believe Aekiel is the healer, him saying he protected Havoc means less than nothing and is hardly proof of innocence. I don't think consistently targeting TBH is proof of guilt either. If anything, picking one person and sticking to them is less suspicious than jumping on every bandwagon that comes along, as some have done.

    This is quite frankly, retarded. If you believe me defending Ashaya is enough reason to kill me, then you have more than enough reason to kill Ashaya. And the nonsense about killing proving what Ashaya was is just that, nonsense. You know what else does that?, killing Ashaya. Same risks, same reward. If I'm innocent, it's no different than if Ashaya was innocent. We're fucked.

    And your behavior is beyond suspicious Aekiel. What's your history this whole game? Start a bandwagon to kill the Auror. Then jump on another bandwagon. This time around you tried to start a bandwagon to kill Ashaya. When that was unsuccessful you immediately jumped ship and climbed all over Lutris's suggestion to try and start another bandwagon. You're desperate. Everything you do reeks of dishonesty.

    Rehio said it best last page. Fuck that. Kill Aekiel


    P.S.
    Also Aekiel you fail at math. There can't be 6 people working together as DE's because they game would be over if there were. They would have a majority, since there are only 11 people left.
     
  18. Riley

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    I am not a Death Eater, I am merely a wizard trying to get through the unrest. This will most likely be seen as either a sad attempt at throwing the blame off of me or reverse-psychology attempt but the point is that I have thrown out that I am not a Death Eater.
     
  19. BioPlague

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    Rescind Vote

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