You're just one piece of the puzzle that's keeping us in the game though. The Healer's far more important. They clip him/her, we're getting a slow death.

 

Well, the DEs must have a reason for killing jwlk. I mean, why would they do it? We were probably going to lynch mishie anyway, even if the DEs didn't kill jwlk. Are the DEs trying to clear mishie by killing somebody who was white-knighting him? Or perhaps mishie is a DE, and they know Fenraellis must have cleared him? Is mishie the Dark Lord?

Although Kensington is suspect, I say that we nip this in the bud (yes, I know, Palindrome) now. A reason for killing jwlk must exist, and we'll never really know until we react to the bait. Besides, we can get Kensington later. If we let the mishie/jwlk thing fester, it will turn into another Ashaya situation, even if mishie is innocent.

And we can't afford to obsess over the same detail, over and over again. Hit it, and move on.

Vote Player: mishie.

I'm out.

 

I don't have any real proof of it but this does tie in neatly to my earlier theory. I thought that killing Vira was all too convenient for mishie and jwlk, that it suddenly and mysteriously got them off the hook solely because they looked too obvious and this kind of seems like round two to me. The guy who was defending mishie gets iced and suddenly it seems like mishie is the last suspect.

Of course if the Death Eaters are really smart then its all a scam, they figured that we'd try to be smart and suspect jwlk's death as a ploy and the whole thing is a scam to frame mishie.

 

Vote Player: Fiat Piscis.

This mishie thing stinks of a set-up and Fiat looks the most likely target, so I'm voting this way. If enough people acquire votes for her that it needs me to switch, I'll switch to her for the sake of the group so we don't get hung up on this.

 

I hate to bring this up but I figure it's probably one of the better ways to assert my innocence: I'm pretty sure the Auror investigated me last night. Either that or I was randomly visited by someone for no reason. Unless you're subscribing to the particularly unlikely theory that I'm the goddamn dark lord, I'm innocent.

Of course, the same goes for Mishie.

 

... Fenraellis? He talking shit or truth?

 

If I'm wrong and I got a visit from someone else...well, I'll kind of accept my lynching for the stupidity on my part, but I was visited last night by someone and I'm assuming it was the auror.

Well then, I'm going to die.

Strange that someone would visit me. It's making me lol, because there's literally no reason for someone to visit me outside of investigation.

 

Ha~... I hate to do this, but I will admit that I was not the one that may have visited him last night. To that end... if it wasn't the Hit Wizard(presuming he is watching me to catch a potential Sorcerer), then logically it would have been the Sorcerer/ess. That would prove his innocence if he is telling the truth.

Certainly, I would personally like to believe in him, as he has been exceedingly pro-town. Practically, he was one of the first few people to counter-intuitively request an innocence-proving investigation. Honestly, I think that I would register a not guilty if I were to investigate him... one way or another. Take that as you will.

The way he is registering, he is either an extremely adamant and expressive pro-town persona, or...

Well, I really can't say for sure.

 

... I really want to believe you Fiat. I really do. But I can't waffle like I did with HoS, and especially when it involves me taking you on good faith that you were visited by someone, especially when Fen says it wasn't him. Unless the Sorceror, Hit-Wizard or Healer responsible steps up to the plate and says it was them, I don't think it'll sway anyone.

I'm going to keep my vote the way it is, Fiat. I'm sorry.

Indeed. :facepalm

If we move to lynch mishie tonight, mind checking him out? We need to get one of the DEs down for the count.

 

I think the Jwlk/mishie situation is something we can't ignore especially considering the post Fiat made from last game showing the Death eaters then used a similar strategy.

I would recommend lynching mishie this turn and investigating Fiat tonight. It all seems to convenient for mishie at the moment.

 

Well, I don't really care. It was my main defense to mostly baseless accusations at me - which are largely based on me suspecting mishie pretty much the same way the entire last page of people did. It was a defense to something I really don't need to defend.

There are two options here: The Death Eaters are literally thinking two steps ahead of us, knowing that killing those two using the same strategy Anarchy would lead people to think it was too obvious, which would lead to people thinking that it was a strategy to make it look too obvious; or it was made to make mishie look too obvious. One or the other. Should we really assume that the Death Eaters are that much ahead of us?

Vote Player: Mishie
Even if they're innocent, it'll stop people from suspecting Mishe at the beginning of every day.

 

Ok I'm about to head to a party so in case the Lynch happens before I get back.

Vote Player Mishie

For the reasons I have previously stated.

 

My thoughts so far:

Mishie is kinda reading as a DE for me, but for the DE's to be pulling basically the same trick this game as they did last game just seems off. So it might be a plot to get us to turn on ourselves (aka traps within traps). I also think that Fenraellis would have checked him either last night or the night before (or maybe he got unlucky and checked jwlk). Mishie didn't seem very adamant in his defense, at least in post earlier today so I think that points to him being a wizard rather than a DE or (worst-case) a power role. I'm interested in what mishie has to say about all this.

Fiat Piscis seems strongly pro-town, but this is almost completely shown by pressuring people (Don't get me wrong, pressuring people is good! Gets DE to make mistakes and stuff) but it's something a DEmight do too, since it's beneficial for a DE to get the auror to investigate people who aren't DE's. The request to be investigated seems counter-intuitive for a DE as well, but this could be the idea - Requesting an investigation so as to offset suspicions, combined with pushing for others to be investigated.

Another person who I suspect is Aekiel - Last village he took on a leadership role of sorts (as the healer, even before he came out), so he isn't afraid of drawing attention to himself in some circumstance but he hasn't posted anything like he did last game with his suspect list. Also, he voted for Taure on day 1, which I'm sure was a setup to make some DE's 'safe', since the logic would be 'why would a DE vote for one of their own without an auror verdict'. Although that isn't any sort of hard proof, since Xiph0 clearly wasn't a DE (he's dead).

 

Well, the way I see it, there really isn't any way for me to convince you that I'm neither a Death Eater or the Dark Lord, I just have this to say. We really need to have Aekiel, INBN and Scrittore investigated, if only because of the simple fact that they have been so silent. This even stranger for Aekiel and Scrittore when you consider how vocal they normally are. Finally, a good reason why you shouldn't lynch me is that right now, I'm either a villager being framed, or a Dark Lord trying to save himself since we now that I'm not a Death Eater. Right now, the main evidence that I'm the Dark Lord is that I'm not a Death Eater, and somebody who accused me died. Instead of wasting a lynch on me, we should instead lynch somebody who has a higher chance of not being villager, i.e. somebody the Auror has not checked yet.

 

If it can be confirmed that Fen investigated Mishie, I think I'll retract my vote. We should probably try to vote for someone who isn't a confirmed innocent. I was only operating off of the premise that he'd probably been investigated.

Also, Aziraphale: you've been viewing this thread a lot tonight. Got something to share with the class?

 

*snort* He's a waste of a player spot. Hasn't done anything besides get all offended that I jokingly suggested we lynch him.

Edit: And since it's a few pages back, here's the full response he made and my response in turn:

 

As I've said before, never assume stupidity when you could assume guilt.

Though, I think I said that back when rats was still alive.

 

More like the fact that because you mentioned my name I actually decided to look into you, and didn't really find any redeeming things in any of your posts.

As I said, I don't take any of this game personally and I really couldn't care less where you are from, the only person who seems to have a problem with me being from Israel and you being from Lebanon is you. Go back in time and see if I've ever mentioned your nationality, and then count the times you've done it when mentioning me.

A waste of a player spot? All you do is bandwagon people so far, and exactly zero of your bandwagons have produced a DE kill.

Want to review my track record? Day 1: Taure, Day 2: Taure. Hey, so the one person I've voted for that has been lynched was a death eater! Seems like a good track record to me.

 

Mostly it's because I've been at work all week, meaning I have very little time for tl;dr posts if I want to do other things as well. I've posted a couple of times on general strategy, as I did last game, but I've been holding back this one because I don't want to base my guesses on gut feelings backed up by pseudo-logic (as I did last time, to disastrous effect).

Also, I voted for Taure because he was being a dick. No other thought went into it.

Back on topic though, this new information about Fiat Piscis is interesting. If he really was visited last night it must have been either the Sorceror/ess or the Hit Wizard. Obviously the Sorceror/ess ain't going to reveal themselves, and I wouldn't reveal myself if I were the Hit Wizard either. So logically speaking we only have Fiat's word to go on for this, until Fenraellis investigates him, and even then there is some doubt.

So while this does cast doubt over the accusations surrounding him, I'm not sure if we can take it at face value. Sorry Fiat, but in a game where lying about yourself is actively encouraged, I wouldn't want to take the risk of leaving someone to stab me in the back.

 

I have a bad feeling that mishie would get voted into oblivion right during the few hours that I'm gone for classes soon. With several votes 'randomly' getting called in within a short time frame, like last time.

I was hoping I would be able to reserve this until later, but I'll pull the "I investigated mishie and received a not guilty verdict" card. I wasn't terribly surprised, but there you go. Zeitgeist's assumption was correct. Like with Taure, I knew that there was quite a bit riding on a report of innocence or guilt, and that if I didn't investigate mishie, there would have been a lynching even if actually innocent. I am trying to focus on those who have caused suspicion in the community, but I also want to prevent unnecessary death. Stop getting so much flak if you are innocent, eh?

Hopefully we can come up with a good lynch target(4/16, if I'm excluded after all) and not force the pro-town power roles to reveal themselves. A revealed Warlock is the lightest loss, but a Healer will result in my death the next day, and while the Hit Wizard isn't necessary... it is likely the only reason I have yet to suffer from 'selective amnesia'.

I have a target lined up for the next Night Phase, unless something comes up to direct me assuredly otherwise.

p.s. If Fiat is telling the truth that he was visited, to give the benefit of the doubt, the possibilities are unusual. It would seem odd if the Death Eaters are performing random-targeted Role-blocking, since they wouldn't even know(I think) if they blocked a power role that wasn't an exposed player.

Fiat, would you please paraphrase the text that you received regarding the visit?