Well, I was just about to start catching back up on the story, then I read this...

Puts a downer on that.

 

Eureka, I've figured it out! (the point of divergence, I mean). Now the question is, completely rework the aspects of the fic, or just take their shit and make it better with my own sadistic twist?

 

Actually, I would really prefer it if you guys didn't plagiarize my story.

Thanks,

LS

 

You're taking a suggestion from a member that someone should do a Harry/Bella time travel story "right" and "better" as a suggestion to plagiarize the fic?

For one thing, that's pretty stupid. That would be like the author who wrote the first Severitus fic whining that every fic thereafter that came even close to the original was plagiarizing.

For another thing, this fic isn't horrible, but only half of it is worth plagiarizing. Stylistically (and technically), one author is obviously better than the other to me. If there is any plagiarizing to be done, clearly, people should plagiarize from the better half.

Lastly, that's a pretty crappy first post. Knee-jerk reaction and accusing DLP of plagiarism when, as Sesc said, we have strict policies concerning plagiarism and all of us here hate it with a burning passion? Definitely crappy.

 

To me, that sounds rather like a proposal to hijack the plot. If it wasn't, then I'm glad to hear it.

As for someone else writing a Harry/Bella time travel story, I'd be more than thrilled to read it--after all, I've heard so much from you folks about the ideal H/B story. Send me the link when you get it going. There aren't that many H/B stories, and sometimes I feel rather lonely.

While I'm posting, I'd also like to point out one thing. The theory you guys keep bringing up about there being one good author and one crappy author on this story has provided me a certain amount of amusement over the past months. First off, when I co-author, both me and the co-author have a hand in every paragraph of every chapter. Trying to separate which sentence or word belongs to what author is nearly impossible. There's also another factor in the more recent chapters that makes your discussion of who wrote what chapter hilarious. Check the byline on the more recent chapters and you might figure out what I'm talking about.

All the best,

LS

 

The statements leading up to his post were a lot more specific then someone should write a better Harry/Bella time travel fic, they were leading up to being quite specific.

And even if they were as non-specific as you seem to think they are, the author is allowed so say, hey, I hope you don't just steal my shit.

He never accused anyone of the deed, he simply stated a fact. He would like people to refrain from plagiarizing his story. I don't think that's much to ask since there were four or so post in a row that heavily implied that someone should do just that. So his knee-jerk reaction is just as knee-jerk as yours and sesc.

example - "or just take their shit and make it better with my own sadistic twist" is pretty close to downright saying I'm going to rip this story. It's a lot closer to intellectual theft is then "hey, i hope you guys don't rip my story" is to an actual accusation.

 

I never promote plagiarism, so no hijacking asked for. Hellatrix definitely asked for and consistency in writing.

Edit: Btw, we have a long tradition of deep-sixing people who steal stories. So regardless of how much we enjoy your fic (which judging by reviews here is very favorable) or not, DLP would tar, feather, and anally invade whoever ripped you off on principle.

 

I'd argue that the example you gave (notably made by someone who doesn't seem to have written anything of quality or is a noted member of DLP) wasn't intended by the poster to be seen as having an intention to plagiarize. Is everyone who uses similar time-traveling plots plagiarizing from the authors that do it better than the vast majority of authors who write in that genre? Can the same be said for those who do the "traditional" Diagon Alley scenes, Harry joins Lord Voldemort fics, Lord of Azkaban fics, etc., etc.? Of course not.

Yes, it was suggested that a DLPer "take it up". I personally translated this into, "Someone from DLP write something similar, but better." Big difference between plagiarizing and asking for a better TimeTraveling!Harry/Bella fic.

If anyone else thought that this poster had been suggesting outright plagiarism, especially a mod, he would have been banned a long time ago.

So no, I wasn't posting a knee-jerk reaction post like Silvere was. I was calling him/her/them/whatever out on being an oversensitive berk.

 

Well.... this thread suddenly became very awkward. I hope that we can get past our differences and fighting over one measly comment and go back to talking about what the thread's supposed to be about, the story.

I didn't enjoy this past chapter, who disagrees or agrees?

 

I, for one, am rooting for a new Harry/Bella fic. Since this and 'Only enemies' are the sole ones deserving some recognition (Earl was nice, a long time ago I suppose, now it's ridden with cliches and poor implementation).

As to my perceptions of recent chapters. Well, I liked them. They FINALLY moved the plot forward. I can ignore the cheese in form of phoenix fire and image projection, since they haven't been abused. My only gripe is the supposedly refined and aristocratic Bellatrix munching on funions or other shit, while wearing a t-shirt, and watching TV at the same time.

 

Don't you go messing with my Funions, or i'll let lose a can of woop-ass.

 

Lord Silvere: If it's not alternating chapters, then that makes the problem even worse really. Rather than two authors with different tones and ideas of characterization, we have one unified entity that has trouble maintaining a consistent story tone or pace. We have one entity that lets characterization twist and change seemingly at random. We have one entity that seems to have trouble maintaining a continuity of action and character, rather than two authors who aren't paying close enough attention to each other.

Basically all of the flaws that are explainable and to a degree understandable if there are two author writing distinct sections become larger and less justifiable if that isn't so.

 

You're all entitled to your opinions about the quality of my writing, and I will reserve my own opinion for myself. However, I can't help but wonder why all you people who dislike it and are repeatedly disappointed keep reading it. When I don't like a story, I don't read it, and I certainly don't waste my time complaining about it to an author who seemingly chooses to dismiss such comments. Really, if you guys can write a better H/B or even Harry/Narcissa, go for it. I'd love to read one.

LS

 

Im afraid that's just how I roll Sesc. Just be happy I don't force you to read my writings, then you'd be the one vomiting.

 

As much as the argument isn't invalid, using the "If you don't like it, don't read it" cliche will almost instantly equate you with the many screaming teens who use the phrase.

While we have the author talking, Hey, I like your story. Also, do have the story all planned out, or are you just winging it?

 

They said that you have a serious issue keeping your style consistent, which is a major flaw in any written work. They didn't call it shit, it's still entertaining enough to read, it could just be better.

:facepalm

 

From my point of view, the story is split into two parts. Part 1 has been plotted in detail. Part 2 is plotted in less detail, though there is a strong skeleton. Two chapters will put the story at the end of Part 1. At that point, I will take the opportunity to reread Part 1 and finish the details on Part 2 before continuing.

LS